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Aussies screwed over again

Obernach
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So in roughly 15 hours 39 minutes the next chapter releases. Prime time playing for us. Then the servers go down for 6 hours?! So they come back up at midnight for us. What gives?? Can't do patch maintenance on a Sunday? So we can play? Nope too hard basket.
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    Obernach wrote: »
    So in roughly 15 hours 39 minutes the next chapter releases. Prime time playing for us. Then the servers go down for 6 hours?! So they come back up at midnight for us. What gives?? Can't do patch maintenance on a Sunday? So we can play? Nope too hard basket.

    I even think that chapter will be released after meintenance.
  • Carl-lan
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    The chapter comes out after Maintenance. So you can download it around midnight.

    So we will have to wait until Tuesday to play - unless of course there's more downtime because something broke. Which could happen.

    They have maintenance every week or two around the same time, usually Monday nights. It's often just a write-off night.
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    Maybe don’t live on the wrong side of the world?
  • tmbrinks
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    Obernach wrote: »
    So in roughly 15 hours 39 minutes the next chapter releases. Prime time playing for us. Then the servers go down for 6 hours?! So they come back up at midnight for us. What gives?? Can't do patch maintenance on a Sunday? So we can play? Nope too hard basket.

    So... you want them to take the servers down in prime time for both EU AND NA instead...

    I'm sorry that it's prime time for you in Australia, but to ask them to have them down in two MUCH larger playerbases during their prime time is not a reasonable request.
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  • Runkorko
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    tmbrinks wrote: »
    Obernach wrote: »
    So in roughly 15 hours 39 minutes the next chapter releases. Prime time playing for us. Then the servers go down for 6 hours?! So they come back up at midnight for us. What gives?? Can't do patch maintenance on a Sunday? So we can play? Nope too hard basket.

    So... you want them to take the servers down in prime time for both EU AND NA instead...

    I'm sorry that it's prime time for you in Australia, but to ask them to have them down in two MUCH larger playerbases during their prime time is not a reasonable request.

    EU here. Stil dont find it normal servers to be down on release date.
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    tmbrinks wrote: »
    Obernach wrote: »
    So in roughly 15 hours 39 minutes the next chapter releases. Prime time playing for us. Then the servers go down for 6 hours?! So they come back up at midnight for us. What gives?? Can't do patch maintenance on a Sunday? So we can play? Nope too hard basket.

    So... you want them to take the servers down in prime time for both EU AND NA instead...

    I'm sorry that it's prime time for you in Australia, but to ask them to have them down in two MUCH larger playerbases during their prime time is not a reasonable request.

    EU here. Stil dont find it normal servers to be down on release date.

    Huh? They have to update the game on the servers... it's always going to be down for a period of time on release date.
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    The Unchained - Oathsworn - Bedlam's Disciple - Temporal Tempest - Curator's Champion - Fist of Tava - Invader's Bane - Land, Air, and Sea Supremacy - Zero Regrets - Battlespire's Best - Bastion Breaker - Ardent Bibliophile - Subterranean Smasher - Bane of Thorns - True Genius - In Defiance of Death - No Rest for the Wicked - Nature's Wrath - Undying Endurance - Relentless Raider - Depths Defier - Apex Predator - Pure Lunacy - Mountain God - Leave No Bone Unbroken - CoS/RoM/BF/FH Challenger
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  • Carl-lan
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    It's down for a few hours. They patch the game and activate the chapter. When done, you can download the new content. It'll be several GBs. You've probably already downloaded a bit of it without knowing in previous patches as well.

    This is entirely normal process when they release DLCs and Chatpers. It just is a bit annoying in AU because it's always Prime Time when it happens.
  • Runkorko
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    tmbrinks wrote: »
    tmbrinks wrote: »
    Obernach wrote: »
    So in roughly 15 hours 39 minutes the next chapter releases. Prime time playing for us. Then the servers go down for 6 hours?! So they come back up at midnight for us. What gives?? Can't do patch maintenance on a Sunday? So we can play? Nope too hard basket.

    So... you want them to take the servers down in prime time for both EU AND NA instead...

    I'm sorry that it's prime time for you in Australia, but to ask them to have them down in two MUCH larger playerbases during their prime time is not a reasonable request.

    EU here. Stil dont find it normal servers to be down on release date.

    Huh? They have to update the game on the servers... it's always going to be down for a period of time on release date.

    The content can be easily released for download earlier
    Wont be the first game who do that. Buy ye, we have what we have.
  • NotaDaedraWorshipper
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    The EU server's maintenance is usually done at the same time as the NA one. Which is not that good of a time for Europeans.
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  • tmbrinks
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    tmbrinks wrote: »
    tmbrinks wrote: »
    Obernach wrote: »
    So in roughly 15 hours 39 minutes the next chapter releases. Prime time playing for us. Then the servers go down for 6 hours?! So they come back up at midnight for us. What gives?? Can't do patch maintenance on a Sunday? So we can play? Nope too hard basket.

    So... you want them to take the servers down in prime time for both EU AND NA instead...

    I'm sorry that it's prime time for you in Australia, but to ask them to have them down in two MUCH larger playerbases during their prime time is not a reasonable request.

    EU here. Stil dont find it normal servers to be down on release date.

    Huh? They have to update the game on the servers... it's always going to be down for a period of time on release date.

    The content can be easily released for download earlier
    Wont be the first game who do that. Buy ye, we have what we have.

    MMOs don't work that way. This isn't a single player game.
    The Unshattered - Tenacious Dreamer - Hurricane Herald - Godslayer - Dawnbringer - Gryphon Heart - Tick Tock Tormenter - Immortal Redeemer - Dro-m'Athra Destroyer
    The Unchained - Oathsworn - Bedlam's Disciple - Temporal Tempest - Curator's Champion - Fist of Tava - Invader's Bane - Land, Air, and Sea Supremacy - Zero Regrets - Battlespire's Best - Bastion Breaker - Ardent Bibliophile - Subterranean Smasher - Bane of Thorns - True Genius - In Defiance of Death - No Rest for the Wicked - Nature's Wrath - Undying Endurance - Relentless Raider - Depths Defier - Apex Predator - Pure Lunacy - Mountain God - Leave No Bone Unbroken - CoS/RoM/BF/FH Challenger
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  • Runkorko
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    tmbrinks wrote: »
    tmbrinks wrote: »
    tmbrinks wrote: »
    Obernach wrote: »
    So in roughly 15 hours 39 minutes the next chapter releases. Prime time playing for us. Then the servers go down for 6 hours?! So they come back up at midnight for us. What gives?? Can't do patch maintenance on a Sunday? So we can play? Nope too hard basket.

    So... you want them to take the servers down in prime time for both EU AND NA instead...

    I'm sorry that it's prime time for you in Australia, but to ask them to have them down in two MUCH larger playerbases during their prime time is not a reasonable request.

    EU here. Stil dont find it normal servers to be down on release date.

    Huh? They have to update the game on the servers... it's always going to be down for a period of time on release date.

    The content can be easily released for download earlier
    Wont be the first game who do that. Buy ye, we have what we have.

    MMOs don't work that way. This isn't a single player game.

    Rly ? Because it work perfectly in other mmos i play.
    As i said, we have what we have.
  • StormeReigns
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    The EU server's maintenance is usually done at the same time as the NA one. Which is not that good of a time for Europeans.

    There are, a handful of mmos / games that do that, and still have to go down for some time still.
  • Obernach
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    tmbrinks wrote: »
    tmbrinks wrote: »
    tmbrinks wrote: »
    Obernach wrote: »
    So in roughly 15 hours 39 minutes the next chapter releases. Prime time playing for us. Then the servers go down for 6 hours?! So they come back up at midnight for us. What gives?? Can't do patch maintenance on a Sunday? So we can play? Nope too hard basket.

    So... you want them to take the servers down in prime time for both EU AND NA instead...

    I'm sorry that it's prime time for you in Australia, but to ask them to have them down in two MUCH larger playerbases during their prime time is not a reasonable request.

    EU here. Stil dont find it normal servers to be down on release date.

    Huh? They have to update the game on the servers... it's always going to be down for a period of time on release date.

    The content can be easily released for download earlier
    Wont be the first game who do that. Buy ye, we have what we have.

    MMOs don't work that way. This isn't a single player game.

    Never played wow or guild wars? Server comes down for maybe 5 mins on expac release then goes back up
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    tmbrinks wrote: »
    tmbrinks wrote: »
    tmbrinks wrote: »
    Obernach wrote: »
    So in roughly 15 hours 39 minutes the next chapter releases. Prime time playing for us. Then the servers go down for 6 hours?! So they come back up at midnight for us. What gives?? Can't do patch maintenance on a Sunday? So we can play? Nope too hard basket.

    So... you want them to take the servers down in prime time for both EU AND NA instead...

    I'm sorry that it's prime time for you in Australia, but to ask them to have them down in two MUCH larger playerbases during their prime time is not a reasonable request.

    EU here. Stil dont find it normal servers to be down on release date.

    Huh? They have to update the game on the servers... it's always going to be down for a period of time on release date.

    The content can be easily released for download earlier
    Wont be the first game who do that. Buy ye, we have what we have.

    MMOs don't work that way. This isn't a single player game.

    Rly ? Because it work perfectly in other mmos i play.
    As i said, we have what we have.

    perhaps if they weren't doing class changes, skill changes, balance changes, etc.. It's not just new content they release, they are adjusting the current content. You can't have people playing different versions with different rules...
    The Unshattered - Tenacious Dreamer - Hurricane Herald - Godslayer - Dawnbringer - Gryphon Heart - Tick Tock Tormenter - Immortal Redeemer - Dro-m'Athra Destroyer
    The Unchained - Oathsworn - Bedlam's Disciple - Temporal Tempest - Curator's Champion - Fist of Tava - Invader's Bane - Land, Air, and Sea Supremacy - Zero Regrets - Battlespire's Best - Bastion Breaker - Ardent Bibliophile - Subterranean Smasher - Bane of Thorns - True Genius - In Defiance of Death - No Rest for the Wicked - Nature's Wrath - Undying Endurance - Relentless Raider - Depths Defier - Apex Predator - Pure Lunacy - Mountain God - Leave No Bone Unbroken - CoS/RoM/BF/FH Challenger
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  • Runkorko
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    tmbrinks wrote: »
    tmbrinks wrote: »
    tmbrinks wrote: »
    tmbrinks wrote: »
    Obernach wrote: »
    So in roughly 15 hours 39 minutes the next chapter releases. Prime time playing for us. Then the servers go down for 6 hours?! So they come back up at midnight for us. What gives?? Can't do patch maintenance on a Sunday? So we can play? Nope too hard basket.

    So... you want them to take the servers down in prime time for both EU AND NA instead...

    I'm sorry that it's prime time for you in Australia, but to ask them to have them down in two MUCH larger playerbases during their prime time is not a reasonable request.

    EU here. Stil dont find it normal servers to be down on release date.

    Huh? They have to update the game on the servers... it's always going to be down for a period of time on release date.

    The content can be easily released for download earlier
    Wont be the first game who do that. Buy ye, we have what we have.

    MMOs don't work that way. This isn't a single player game.

    Rly ? Because it work perfectly in other mmos i play.
    As i said, we have what we have.

    perhaps if they weren't doing class changes, skill changes, balance changes, etc.. It's not just new content they release, they are adjusting the current content. You can't have people playing different versions with different rules...

    They can still allow the download earlier and then to apply it when decide.
    Download and aplpy are 2 diferent things you know
  • tmbrinks
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    Obernach wrote: »
    tmbrinks wrote: »
    tmbrinks wrote: »
    tmbrinks wrote: »
    Obernach wrote: »
    So in roughly 15 hours 39 minutes the next chapter releases. Prime time playing for us. Then the servers go down for 6 hours?! So they come back up at midnight for us. What gives?? Can't do patch maintenance on a Sunday? So we can play? Nope too hard basket.

    So... you want them to take the servers down in prime time for both EU AND NA instead...

    I'm sorry that it's prime time for you in Australia, but to ask them to have them down in two MUCH larger playerbases during their prime time is not a reasonable request.

    EU here. Stil dont find it normal servers to be down on release date.

    Huh? They have to update the game on the servers... it's always going to be down for a period of time on release date.

    The content can be easily released for download earlier
    Wont be the first game who do that. Buy ye, we have what we have.

    MMOs don't work that way. This isn't a single player game.

    Never played wow or guild wars? Server comes down for maybe 5 mins on expac release then goes back up

    Nope.. Good for them then.
    The Unshattered - Tenacious Dreamer - Hurricane Herald - Godslayer - Dawnbringer - Gryphon Heart - Tick Tock Tormenter - Immortal Redeemer - Dro-m'Athra Destroyer
    The Unchained - Oathsworn - Bedlam's Disciple - Temporal Tempest - Curator's Champion - Fist of Tava - Invader's Bane - Land, Air, and Sea Supremacy - Zero Regrets - Battlespire's Best - Bastion Breaker - Ardent Bibliophile - Subterranean Smasher - Bane of Thorns - True Genius - In Defiance of Death - No Rest for the Wicked - Nature's Wrath - Undying Endurance - Relentless Raider - Depths Defier - Apex Predator - Pure Lunacy - Mountain God - Leave No Bone Unbroken - CoS/RoM/BF/FH Challenger
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  • Obernach
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    Tmbrinks keep those blinders on :) good for yoy
  • Laz
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    Obernach wrote: »
    So in roughly 15 hours 39 minutes the next chapter releases. Prime time playing for us. Then the servers go down for 6 hours?! So they come back up at midnight for us. What gives?? Can't do patch maintenance on a Sunday? So we can play? Nope too hard basket.

    I currently live in Japan for about 6 more months (been here fore 2 years) and suffer this in so many games. It's not just ESO, a lot of my games I play go down at pretty inconvenient times. It sucks.
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  • tmbrinks
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    Obernach wrote: »
    Tmbrinks keep those blinders on :) good for yoy

    I'm sure I could find the reason why it's different in this case, but I'm sure you'd dismiss that too... not worth the time, effort, or energy.

    Maintenance has been done at approximately the same time for years, to expect a company based on the east coast of the US, whose primary player base is in the EU and the US to do maintenance during their peak time, rather than the peak time of Australia. With the megaservers, they have to do it all at once, they could probably split EU and NA, but perhaps it's easier for them to do it all at once... so it stretches into the early parts of prime time for Europe... cuts into some late prime time on the west coast of the US, and sadly Australia bears the brunt of the timing being smack dab in the middle of their prime time...

    Too bad we don't live on a flat Earth, then everybody could be in the same time zone, and have the sun up at the same time! :joy:
    The Unshattered - Tenacious Dreamer - Hurricane Herald - Godslayer - Dawnbringer - Gryphon Heart - Tick Tock Tormenter - Immortal Redeemer - Dro-m'Athra Destroyer
    The Unchained - Oathsworn - Bedlam's Disciple - Temporal Tempest - Curator's Champion - Fist of Tava - Invader's Bane - Land, Air, and Sea Supremacy - Zero Regrets - Battlespire's Best - Bastion Breaker - Ardent Bibliophile - Subterranean Smasher - Bane of Thorns - True Genius - In Defiance of Death - No Rest for the Wicked - Nature's Wrath - Undying Endurance - Relentless Raider - Depths Defier - Apex Predator - Pure Lunacy - Mountain God - Leave No Bone Unbroken - CoS/RoM/BF/FH Challenger
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  • Chaos2088
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    This is an american game, they are going to go by american time that suits them as a company. No matter what time, someone in the world will loose out.
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  • Icy_Waffles
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    Wow what entitled whining... ZOS employees have work schedules you know... and honestly who cares... set yourself to download then play when you wake up the next day...
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    Chaos2088 wrote: »
    This is an american game, they are going to go by american time that suits them as a company. No matter what time, someone in the world will loose out.

    LoL....
    Why the heck then there is a EU server ?
    [edited to remove baiting comment]
    Edited by ZOS_RikardD on May 19, 2019 6:25PM
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    Chaos2088 wrote: »
    This is an american game, they are going to go by american time that suits them as a company. No matter what time, someone in the world will loose out.

    LoL....
    Why the heck then there is a EU server ?
    Tipical murican way of thinking :D
    Thanks for the laugh

    The company is in the States and work in that time zone.

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    Chaos2088 wrote: »
    This is an american game, they are going to go by american time that suits them as a company. No matter what time, someone in the world will loose out.

    LoL....
    Why the heck then there is a EU server ?
    Tipical murican way of thinking :D
    Thanks for the laugh

    There is nothing false about the statement that Zenimax Online Studios is an American Company, headquartered in the United States.

    The time they picked probably inconveniences the least amount of people. It's offline when a majority of people in NA/EU are at work. Yes, it stretches into some of early EU prime time, cuts off some of NA prime time the night before... They start the maintenance at 4:00 AM local time... they're making a sacrifice themselves to try and inconvenience the least amount of people. Good thing they don't start it at "normal" start time of 8:00 or 9:00 because it's "better" for them... then EU would lose their entire prime time on maintenance day...
    The Unshattered - Tenacious Dreamer - Hurricane Herald - Godslayer - Dawnbringer - Gryphon Heart - Tick Tock Tormenter - Immortal Redeemer - Dro-m'Athra Destroyer
    The Unchained - Oathsworn - Bedlam's Disciple - Temporal Tempest - Curator's Champion - Fist of Tava - Invader's Bane - Land, Air, and Sea Supremacy - Zero Regrets - Battlespire's Best - Bastion Breaker - Ardent Bibliophile - Subterranean Smasher - Bane of Thorns - True Genius - In Defiance of Death - No Rest for the Wicked - Nature's Wrath - Undying Endurance - Relentless Raider - Depths Defier - Apex Predator - Pure Lunacy - Mountain God - Leave No Bone Unbroken - CoS/RoM/BF/FH Challenger
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  • VoiDGhOs7
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    Stop crying or stop playing.
  • StormeReigns
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    Chaos2088 wrote: »
    This is an american game, they are going to go by american time that suits them as a company. No matter what time, someone in the world will loose out.

    LoL....
    Why the heck then there is a EU server ?
    Tipical murican way of thinking :D
    Thanks for the laugh


    Btw, not even close, a handful of *** do not make up the majority. Not wise to generalize either. I mean, we could use the EU /Aussie generalization tropes that are aimed to make EU / Aussie look horrid and idiotic as well. But, lets not fall into those traps.
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    The true question should be...…

    Does anyone actually expect to play on patch day???

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  • Tandor
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    tmbrinks wrote: »
    tmbrinks wrote: »
    tmbrinks wrote: »
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    Obernach wrote: »
    So in roughly 15 hours 39 minutes the next chapter releases. Prime time playing for us. Then the servers go down for 6 hours?! So they come back up at midnight for us. What gives?? Can't do patch maintenance on a Sunday? So we can play? Nope too hard basket.

    So... you want them to take the servers down in prime time for both EU AND NA instead...

    I'm sorry that it's prime time for you in Australia, but to ask them to have them down in two MUCH larger playerbases during their prime time is not a reasonable request.

    EU here. Stil dont find it normal servers to be down on release date.

    Huh? They have to update the game on the servers... it's always going to be down for a period of time on release date.

    The content can be easily released for download earlier
    Wont be the first game who do that. Buy ye, we have what we have.

    MMOs don't work that way. This isn't a single player game.

    Rly ? Because it work perfectly in other mmos i play.
    As i said, we have what we have.

    perhaps if they weren't doing class changes, skill changes, balance changes, etc.. It's not just new content they release, they are adjusting the current content. You can't have people playing different versions with different rules...

    They can still allow the download earlier and then to apply it when decide.
    Download and aplpy are 2 diferent things you know

    Then you'd have to have both the original version plus the large patch on your machine until the patch was activated and over-wrote much of the original, and people would be complaining about the space requirements. Besides, offering the download to players is only one part of the downtime, mostly it's about implementing the update on all the individual servers that make up the overall megaserver structure in both regions. SOE once counted up the number of individual pieces of hardware that had to be modified as part of an update for EQ and the figure was staggering and served to show how impressive it was that they got it done in the time it took!

    There's never an easy solution for the players, someone always get hit whichever way you do it. What matters is that developers organise it the best way for them, that way it minimises the chance of it going wrong.
  • Runkorko
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    Tandor wrote: »
    tmbrinks wrote: »
    tmbrinks wrote: »
    tmbrinks wrote: »
    tmbrinks wrote: »
    Obernach wrote: »
    So in roughly 15 hours 39 minutes the next chapter releases. Prime time playing for us. Then the servers go down for 6 hours?! So they come back up at midnight for us. What gives?? Can't do patch maintenance on a Sunday? So we can play? Nope too hard basket.

    So... you want them to take the servers down in prime time for both EU AND NA instead...

    I'm sorry that it's prime time for you in Australia, but to ask them to have them down in two MUCH larger playerbases during their prime time is not a reasonable request.

    EU here. Stil dont find it normal servers to be down on release date.

    Huh? They have to update the game on the servers... it's always going to be down for a period of time on release date.

    The content can be easily released for download earlier
    Wont be the first game who do that. Buy ye, we have what we have.

    MMOs don't work that way. This isn't a single player game.

    Rly ? Because it work perfectly in other mmos i play.
    As i said, we have what we have.

    perhaps if they weren't doing class changes, skill changes, balance changes, etc.. It's not just new content they release, they are adjusting the current content. You can't have people playing different versions with different rules...

    They can still allow the download earlier and then to apply it when decide.
    Download and aplpy are 2 diferent things you know

    Then you'd have to have both the original version plus the large patch on your machine until the patch was activated and over-wrote much of the original, and people would be complaining about the space requirements. Besides, offering the download to players is only one part of the downtime, mostly it's about implementing the update on all the individual servers that make up the overall megaserver structure in both regions. SOE once counted up the number of individual pieces of hardware that had to be modified as part of an update for EQ and the figure was staggering and served to show how impressive it was that they got it done in the time it took!

    There's never an easy solution for the players, someone always get hit whichever way you do it. What matters is that developers organise it the best way for them, that way it minimises the chance of it going wrong.

    BY update i dont mean the entire updated game mate....
    Dont tell me how it works because i use it more than 5y.
    You donload it early. And then when is ready it autoapply. Without need to w8 X hours to download it after release. And without fe..g ZoS servers because everyone download it at the same time....
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