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Sunspire Senche in the Crown Store - Please don't do this!
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SRTtoZ✭✭✭I’m okay with this only because it’s a lot of work that goes into these mounts and it would be quite silly to only give it out to a small percentage of people who get that achievement. On the flip side they should have gave it more than just a golden saddle.0 -
Jhalin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I’m okay with this only because it’s a lot of work that goes into these mounts and it would be quite silly to only give it out to a small percentage of people who get that achievement. On the flip side they should have gave it more than just a golden saddle.
Sorry to burst the bubble, but this mount’s entire aesthetic already exists, it’s not
The flame effects are directly pulled from the existing Nightmare armchair mount, the texture is directly from the ice sabre tooth senche sold for gems last December. The only difference is a five second color gradient added to the feet and a tiny glow effect on the eyes.
It didn’t take some artist slaving over it for months to repurpose existing assets, at least they could make it exclusive to accomplishment, not stick the exist same thing in the crown store1 -
DovahkiinHeart✭✭✭The vast majority of people playing this game do not care about the achievement. If they see this mount and like how it looks, then they will buy it. It's a cosmetic item to them. They won't have any idea that a similar mount is tied to an achievement in a trial. They certainly won't be buying it so people will think they're cool super awesome raiders. The fact that some of you people think that way says more about you then it does about them.
Imagine spending 600-800 crown gems, or 6000 crowns because you care THAT much about what others think of you. I think people can buy whatever they want with their own money, but raiding guilds will automatically know which mount came from the trial. It's like buying a carry (nothing wrong with that by itself), but then lying about it to gain entry into a vet raiding guild. They will find out.
On the other hand, people getting this worked up over a mount that's only going to be around for 4 days at the most, worrying about being accidentally mistaken for a 'desperate wannabe scrub' as if EVERYONE and their grandma is going to be running around with it is ludicrous and silly.
You can obtain the hard to earn, golden saddled trial version 24/7/365. And you're getting up in arms over a less fancy version with a 4 day availability window (at most). Also consider how many people take breaks from this game, need save up money/crowns if they don't/do have a sub, and might not log in regularly to even catch this mount while it's in the store.
Honestly, when you put it all into perspective, this is making a mountain out of a molehill.
Edited by DovahkiinHeart on May 16, 2019 9:30AM1 -
BrianLovesLisa✭✭✭✭✭DovahkiinHeart wrote: »The vast majority of people playing this game do not care about the achievement. If they see this mount and like how it looks, then they will buy it. It's a cosmetic item to them. They won't have any idea that a similar mount is tied to an achievement in a trial. They certainly won't be buying it so people will think they're cool super awesome raiders. The fact that some of you people think that way says more about you then it does about them.
Imagine spending 600-800 crown gems, or 6000 crowns because you care THAT much about what others think of you. I think people can buy whatever they want with their own money, but if this is the sole reason they buy this limited time mount, then I think there's a personal issue here.
On the other hand, people getting this worked up over a mount that's only going to be around for 4 days at the most, worrying about being accidentally mistaken for a desperate wannabe scrub as if EVERYONE and their grandma is going to be running around with it is ludicrous and silly.
You can obtain the hard to earn, golden saddled trial version 24/7/365. And you're getting up in arms over a less fancy version with a 4 day obtainable window. Also consider how many people take breaks from this game, need save up money/crowns if they don't/do have a sub, and might not log in regularly to even catch this mount.
Yeah, seems a bit funny from perspective.
the trial version looks like someone pissed on the saddle I would much prefer the leather look.6 -
Kelces✭✭✭✭✭in trying to appease everyone- they end up undermining everything. classic zos...
Yes, they always seem to fail to please some of players, who can't be satisfied ever.
First world problems...You reveal yourself best in how you play.
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p00tx✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Trials should NOT get ANY different rewards from anything else in the game.
Why not?PC/Xbox NA
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Yeah, I have to agree with you. It's just bizarre how people have this twisted view of reality and how things work. I don't even know how to talk to people like that. I'm not sure if it's worth it to try and reason with them, or if it's just a waste of time and energy. I sincerely hope the developers don't actually listen to this stuff and have the sense to know the difference between constructive input and outright weirdness.PC/Xbox NA
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Rain_Greyraven✭✭✭✭✭Not like you can pass it off as the real deal
"Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing.”
― Robert E. Howard
So you want to be a game developer? Here is the best way to go about it.1 -
Tigerseye✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I don't really see what the problem is, to be honest.
Firstly, you will be able to get the trial one free (rather than paying for it) and secondly, it has different armour and not even just the colour of it; the style of it is noticeably different, too.
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Tigerseye✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I got some wolf, or other, from killing Garrosh on HC (I think?) and didn't care that people could then buy fairly similar-looking ones (with gold), in the next xpac.
I guess I just don't care about stuff like this, in general.
What upsets me more, is if people are banned from ever getting a certain species/breed of mount, forever, just because a few selfish people (who probably don't even use it) have nothing better to worry about.Edited by Tigerseye on May 16, 2019 7:35PM4 -
Tigerseye✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭BrianLovesLisa wrote: »DovahkiinHeart wrote: »The vast majority of people playing this game do not care about the achievement. If they see this mount and like how it looks, then they will buy it. It's a cosmetic item to them. They won't have any idea that a similar mount is tied to an achievement in a trial. They certainly won't be buying it so people will think they're cool super awesome raiders. The fact that some of you people think that way says more about you then it does about them.
Imagine spending 600-800 crown gems, or 6000 crowns because you care THAT much about what others think of you. I think people can buy whatever they want with their own money, but if this is the sole reason they buy this limited time mount, then I think there's a personal issue here.
On the other hand, people getting this worked up over a mount that's only going to be around for 4 days at the most, worrying about being accidentally mistaken for a desperate wannabe scrub as if EVERYONE and their grandma is going to be running around with it is ludicrous and silly.
You can obtain the hard to earn, golden saddled trial version 24/7/365. And you're getting up in arms over a less fancy version with a 4 day obtainable window. Also consider how many people take breaks from this game, need save up money/crowns if they don't/do have a sub, and might not log in regularly to even catch this mount.
Yeah, seems a bit funny from perspective.
the trial version looks like someone pissed on the saddle I would much prefer the leather look.
lol, how appropriate.
I'm having flashbacks to people talking about urinating into bottles, during WoW raids...
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✭✭✭xMovingTarget wrote: »And nobody will even notice the difference and tell bob how awesome he is doing the sunspire achievement
Firstly, why does "bob" need to be told he's awesome?
Secondly, when on earth does anyone ever tell you you're awesome, just for doing some harder game content?
Normally, what would happen with that mount, would be me riding it around (for a laugh), on a low level alt, new player says "cool mount", asks where I got it and I have to tell him I got it from a raid.
New player is then sad and I feel bad.
...I stop using mount.
That is the reality.Edited by Tigerseye on May 16, 2019 7:54PM3 -
brannigan1973Soul ShrivenNot to be rude but for the most part nobody cares that you completed a Trial. That achievement is for you. If you need an exclusive mount to justify doing that its on you.7
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alanmatillab16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭YaYaPineapple wrote: »People complain that fancy mounts are only available from the Crown Store, and not available by playing the game... So ZOS takes a fancy Crown Store mount and makes it available by doing a trial in game... and people complain...?
Do you want Crown Store items to be available by playing the game or should these fancy mounts remain Crown Store only?
Make up your minds.
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✭✭✭Sheezabeast wrote: »The one from the achievement better fart rainbows and summon in a shower of glitter to make it worth grinding hardcore endgame content when a reskin can be bought with money
You're not supposed to be doing endgame content for a mount...
You're supposed to be doing it for fun and/or as a personal achievement.
I appreciate it's only doing something in a game (however hard), so it's debatable how much of an achievement that really is; but, that is supposed to be the point.
The mount is just supposed to be a fun perk - a cherry on top of the cake, if you like.3 -
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✭✭✭Swiftfox_Bouncyface wrote: »
Controversial? You mean as controversial as every other special snowflake casul? "Achievement elitism" is a the way someone chose to play so yea let's make it brain dead for all special snowflakes to have anything they want without moving a finger
P.S.
It's not as fun as doing quests for some for instance
Anyone praising this change is a scourge on this game
They just keep trying to remove any aspect of challenge to get rewards, it’s lazy and ZOS is going to milk them over and over while people who actually want a GAME just get a cash shop with RPG elements
No, people with inflated egos, which need constant massaging, are a scourge on every game.
Always have been, always will be.7 -
p00tx✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Swiftfox_Bouncyface wrote: »
Controversial? You mean as controversial as every other special snowflake casul? "Achievement elitism" is a the way someone chose to play so yea let's make it brain dead for all special snowflakes to have anything they want without moving a finger
P.S.
It's not as fun as doing quests for some for instance
Anyone praising this change is a scourge on this game
They just keep trying to remove any aspect of challenge to get rewards, it’s lazy and ZOS is going to milk them over and over while people who actually want a GAME just get a cash shop with RPG elements
No, people with inflated egos, which need constant massaging, are a scourge on every game.
Always have been, always will be.
Yeah? Tell us more about this scourge...
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✭✭✭✭Swiftfox_Bouncyface wrote: »
Controversial? You mean as controversial as every other special snowflake casul? "Achievement elitism" is a the way someone chose to play so yea let's make it brain dead for all special snowflakes to have anything they want without moving a finger
P.S.
It's not as fun as doing quests for some for instance
Anyone praising this change is a scourge on this game
They just keep trying to remove any aspect of challenge to get rewards, it’s lazy and ZOS is going to milk them over and over while people who actually want a GAME just get a cash shop with RPG elements
No, people with inflated egos, which need constant massaging, are a scourge on every game.
Always have been, always will be.
So to be clear you think skilled players wanting a reward for all their hard work and time spent in the game are what bring a game down, not the people who want nothing to be exclusive to in-game player, who want all reward for skill played to be purchasable with next to no effort?
That’s some screwed up logic you have thereEdited by Jhalin on May 16, 2019 9:56PM5 -
DovahkiinHeart✭✭✭I'm still waiting for them to send me my Tesla for all the hard work I put into graduating and being in the top percentile of my University. Y'know, because that kind of dedication deserves an exclusive reward and I want everyone to know. /scsmEdited by DovahkiinHeart on May 16, 2019 10:34PM6
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Tigerseye✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Swiftfox_Bouncyface wrote: »
Controversial? You mean as controversial as every other special snowflake casul? "Achievement elitism" is a the way someone chose to play so yea let's make it brain dead for all special snowflakes to have anything they want without moving a finger
P.S.
It's not as fun as doing quests for some for instance
Anyone praising this change is a scourge on this game
They just keep trying to remove any aspect of challenge to get rewards, it’s lazy and ZOS is going to milk them over and over while people who actually want a GAME just get a cash shop with RPG elements
No, people with inflated egos, which need constant massaging, are a scourge on every game.
Always have been, always will be.
Yeah? Tell us more about this scourge...
Sounds like you already know.Edited by Tigerseye on May 16, 2019 10:37PM2 -
Tigerseye✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Swiftfox_Bouncyface wrote: »
Controversial? You mean as controversial as every other special snowflake casul? "Achievement elitism" is a the way someone chose to play so yea let's make it brain dead for all special snowflakes to have anything they want without moving a finger
P.S.
It's not as fun as doing quests for some for instance
Anyone praising this change is a scourge on this game
They just keep trying to remove any aspect of challenge to get rewards, it’s lazy and ZOS is going to milk them over and over while people who actually want a GAME just get a cash shop with RPG elements
No, people with inflated egos, which need constant massaging, are a scourge on every game.
Always have been, always will be.
So to be clear you think skilled players wanting a reward for all their hard work and time spent in the game are what bring a game down, not the people who want nothing to be exclusive to in-game player, who want all reward for skill played to be purchasable with next to no effort?
The "reward" is supposed to be the fun of playing and the accomplishment of succeeding.
If you don't enjoy doing trials and you don't gain any kind of sense of accomplishment, from having completed them, just do yourself (and us all) a massive favour and stop doing them.
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Jthomas56✭✭✭DovahkiinHeart wrote: »I'm still waiting for them to send me my Tesla for all the hard work I put into graduating and being in the top percentile of my University. Y'know, because that kind of dedication deserves an exclusive reward and I want everyone to know. /scsm
You did good on the DPS dummy(college), so now go into the trial(work) continue to work hard and I’m sure you will earn one.3 -
DovahkiinHeart✭✭✭
You did good on the DPS dummy(college), so now go into the trial(work) continue to work hard and I’m sure you will earn one.
Except you earn things for free in a video game, while in the real world you get this thing called a paycheck which means you can afford to buy nice things like most adults do. Just like how most players will probably end up buying this mount with their hard earned cash because it's a cosmetic item to them and if strangers don't like it, that's their own problem.Edited by DovahkiinHeart on May 16, 2019 11:02PM3 -
SoLooney✭✭✭✭✭runkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »
No one is saying real life work requires no effort but if you do your normal job, you are guaranteed to get paid and therefore be able to buy it
The hard modes for sunspire are already challenging enough, even to the top end raiders, and completing the hard modes with no deaths and within a time limit. It could take months, and for many groups, be unachievable
So no, neither option is technically free but it is much easier to just straight up buy it from the crown storeEdited by SoLooney on May 17, 2019 12:19AM3 -
Jhalin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Swiftfox_Bouncyface wrote: »
Controversial? You mean as controversial as every other special snowflake casul? "Achievement elitism" is a the way someone chose to play so yea let's make it brain dead for all special snowflakes to have anything they want without moving a finger
P.S.
It's not as fun as doing quests for some for instance
Anyone praising this change is a scourge on this game
They just keep trying to remove any aspect of challenge to get rewards, it’s lazy and ZOS is going to milk them over and over while people who actually want a GAME just get a cash shop with RPG elements
No, people with inflated egos, which need constant massaging, are a scourge on every game.
Always have been, always will be.
So to be clear you think skilled players wanting a reward for all their hard work and time spent in the game are what bring a game down, not the people who want nothing to be exclusive to in-game player, who want all reward for skill played to be purchasable with next to no effort?
The "reward" is supposed to be the fun of playing and the accomplishment of succeeding.
If you don't enjoy doing trials and you don't gain any kind of sense of accomplishment, from having completed them, just do yourself (and us all) a massive favour and stop doing them.
Ah and I’m sure if universities pulled all sports scholarships and said the players should just put all that work in for “just fun” or “why don’t you shut up and quit”, that would go over well wouldn’t it3 -
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✭✭✭✭I got some wolf, or other, from killing Garrosh on HC (I think?) and didn't care that people could then buy fairly similar-looking ones (with gold), in the next xpac.
I guess I just don't care about stuff like this, in general.
What upsets me more, is if people are banned from ever getting a certain species/breed of mount, forever, just because a few selfish people (who probably don't even use it) have nothing better to worry about.
I find it incredibly concerning that you appear to be a rational person, possibly even an adult.1 -
Matchimus✭✭✭✭✭People who spend money on this game keep it financially viable for the owner. People who complete achievements do not.7
