kathandira wrote: »

If you are caught using a vampirism ability, then yes. If you are caught in werewolf form, then yes. If you are caught using necromancy, then yes.

That's about what I thought. I can see a lot of people not liking the mechanic, but since its an old mechanic they might as well add it in its full capacity as it works in the mainline ES games?

Vampires and Werewolves are already frowned upon and even outright hunted in Tamriel. Its so bad that If you even look or behave like a vampire or werewolf people will seek to kill you. So, yes. They most definitely should be illegal, especially Vamp Stage 4. It's already strange enough being a vampire while being hired to fight vampires while you are acting like you've never heard of them.

Danikat wrote: »

Vampires feeding on people is already a crime (and some times I've gotten a higher bounty from that than simply killing them with the Blade of Woe) and I thought being seen turning into a werewolf would give you a bounty too, like in previous TES games. But I don't have a werewolf myself so I'm not sure.

It could be like necromancy of course where some abilities are ok and others are not, for example maybe vampires could use Mist Form but not Drain Essence, since Mist Form doesn't actually involve attacking anyone.

Guards ignore Werewolves as is. And I think Drain Essence gets a bounty because you're hurting someone rather than being tied to the actual vampirism?

Yeah, it makes sense. I honestly think summoning your heckin sorc pets should be in there too. Cuz, y’know, they’re summoning Daedra.

Well using vampire skills, and getting caught feeding will get you a bounty already. Only one out of line is werewolf transformation.

I think they should do it how they did it in Dawnguard for SKyrim. I don't think many people think of vampires as much of a threat as say a fully transformed werewolf or vampire lord. So any Powerful Transformation ability like vampire lord or werewolf or necromancers illusion transformation ability would be something that would scare the people. People might not like vampires but they know they can be defeated and one vampire can't just end an entire village by attacking. One werewolf can end an entire village because its that powerful compared to a vampire who is typically stuck in just a humaniod form they are born with. Vampires can be dangerous yes and are hated, but werewolves are so dangerous and I think people would find them a bigger threat. For that very reason I think people in the cities might prefer having vampires nearby then a clan of werewolves. What I think they should do is give vampires a gargoyle transformation. Make that a crime, make transforming into a werewolf a crime too along with being a bone colosisis. I don't think they should make stage four vampirism a crime per say as well that could easily be covered up by a skin. Or helmet and it would break immersion if you were fully covered from head to two with no one knowing your a vampire or not. But yeah powerful transformation abilties should be a crime .

I would LOVE to see an update do this.

I would also like to see Vampires getting the same kind of love Werewolves did with the "Wolfhunter" DLC.

The illegal skill lines are annoying enough with Necromancers as it is. There's no reason to add further inconvenience to the game for the sake of "immersion" that will get old the day the changes are made.

Give Bosmer back it's stealth passives as per lore, then you can have "lore friendly" bounties for vampires and werewolves >_>

As recently been told, the Lore says they are Daedric creatures/converted mortals. The setting is Fantasy dictatorships (kings/Queens) and lots of supernatural stuff is considered to be evil at it's core.

The people of this setting would obviously not want these creatures in their towns.

Okay here is how I see this. Maybe all classes could get a skill that would be illegal to use. Vampires as they are not nearly as dangerous as werewolves well they are dangeorus just not to an entire city full of people maybe some of them. Given if they can control it or cover it up. They shouldn't be given a bounty for stage four. Now bat swarm is not normal. Mist form I think most would mistake that for say some mage power. drain essense could be mistaken for some mage ability. Anything that can be dangerous and cause harm to nearby people should be a crime. Templars Sun ultimate just one example.
So what could be made crimes are the following.
Storm Attronach
Bat Swarm
Werewolf Transformation
Nova
Shadow Cloak
Aspect of Terror
Soul Shred
Daedric Mines
Frozen Gate
Sleet Storm
Swarm
Ash Cloud
Inferno
Bear While seen by bankers or seen by Crafting npcs in crafting areas.
Twilight while seen by bankers or Crafting Area Npcs
Scamp While seen by bankers or crafting area npcs.
This is because of how annoying they can be. But also limiting it to being seen by these npcs so players don't have to worry about despawning them everytime they go to a wayshrine or city. But When in certain areas where there are crafting stations they would be reminded they have to put their pets away.
Basically anything that could be dangerous. Not effecting you but other people that causes damage or puts peoples lives in great risk. Shadow Cloak not because its dangerous but because of how it could be used for crime. Daedric Mines because if they go off they could kil someone. Swarm because bugs summoned might stick around and cause problems. Ash Cloud because maybe it can choke and burn nearby innocents. Sleet Storm because the area of effect could cause harm to people. Bat swarm because that isn't natural and well because of the area of effect and the bats could attack nearby civilions. Werewolf transformation because just one werewolf could tear apart entire villeges and kill many of the people within them. Soul Shred because it is a form of necromancy and your directly messing with souls, Aspect of Terror because its also a form of necromancy. Nova because of the harm it could do. Inferno because you could potentially burn down a building.

Oh God, again this nonsense... Justice system must help players, not suppress them!

Theyre curses, and the common folk of Tamriel dont take kindly to those.

As a Werewolf player, I disagree.

Werewolf as it is now should NOT be a criminal act.

Dont get me wrong, I like the basic idea, but as long as werewolf form is as limited as it is and costs 300 ultimate to cast, players shouldnt be forced out of it when they run past guards or cities.

Reduce the Cost to like 150 and I am fine with having to abort my werewolf form to walk through cities, but as expensive as it is right now? No.