Is it possible to have a timer on your UI for the werewolf form?

I kind of like WW as it is. They were just reworked with Wolfhunter so I think additional big changes are unlikely.

Neoealth wrote: »

Is it possible to have a timer on your UI for the werewolf form?

Default Underneath you magic bar. Much like the mount's stamina bar.

Jaraal wrote: »

BigBragg wrote: »

So it should be the only ultimate in the game that doesn't have any form of resource management?

No, you should have to kill stuff to build it up, just like any other ultimate. You just shouldn't have to wait until the ultimate is gone before you can start to build it again. If I hit a group of mobs with Shooting Star, I can generate ultimate with light attacks or other DOTs before it runs out. Why should ww ultimate be any different?

Because you don't throw shooting stars back to back for an unlimited amount of time, or have a sorc overload ulti an entire bg match without running out of ulti like we do.

Chrlynsch wrote: »

DocFrost72 wrote: »

I've given up hope that the complaint of "Why should I be stressed playing a werewolf" will ever be taken seriously (having had this "discussion" several times with some folks in this thread at least once before).

Wolves in pvp should be temporary, there's little to no dialogue/questing tasks/downtime. Wolf out, fight the zerg, ride the zerg, w/e.

I'm not sure playing a werewolf is worth it in overland or dungeons because I sacrifice any and all ability to rp walk/talk through things. To reiterate; I'm not playing werewolf because of game design mechanics making playing a wolf less fun and more stressful for artificial reasons. To me, that doesn't seem like good design. Others have their opinions too.

Just RP that no npc is comfortable talking to you anyway, because you are a Werewolf, You know the things that rip though entire villages, and are extremely contagious. Then RP that your claws are too clumsy to read lore books. Count yourself lucky that your teeth can act as lockpicks. You are a beautiful deadly blood thirsty beast, quit putting Columbine in your fur and go kill something.

Think outside the box, Improvise, adapt, and overcome.

"Too often have I encountered feral wolves with mangy coats. You are not wild dogs! You are not senseless wolves with no choice but to wander the woods as animals! You are kings among hunters!"

http://mmo4ever.com/eso/book/11/the+werewolfs+hide/

As I said, people have their opinions.

Chrlynsch wrote: »

DocFrost72 wrote: »

Chrlynsch wrote: »

DocFrost72 wrote: »

I've given up hope that the complaint of "Why should I be stressed playing a werewolf" will ever be taken seriously (having had this "discussion" several times with some folks in this thread at least once before).

Wolves in pvp should be temporary, there's little to no dialogue/questing tasks/downtime. Wolf out, fight the zerg, ride the zerg, w/e.

I'm not sure playing a werewolf is worth it in overland or dungeons because I sacrifice any and all ability to rp walk/talk through things. To reiterate; I'm not playing werewolf because of game design mechanics making playing a wolf less fun and more stressful for artificial reasons. To me, that doesn't seem like good design. Others have their opinions too.

Just RP that no npc is comfortable talking to you anyway, because you are a Werewolf, You know the things that rip though entire villages, and are extremely contagious. Then RP that your claws are too clumsy to read lore books. Count yourself lucky that your teeth can act as lockpicks. You are a beautiful deadly blood thirsty beast, quit putting Columbine in your fur and go kill something.

Think outside the box, Improvise, adapt, and overcome.

"Too often have I encountered feral wolves with mangy coats. You are not wild dogs! You are not senseless wolves with no choice but to wander the woods as animals! You are kings among hunters!"

http://mmo4ever.com/eso/book/11/the+werewolfs+hide/

As I said, people have their opinions.

You quoted that lorebook about keeping werewolf fur clean. As I just talked about keeping flowers out of the fur.

"When you are beset by enemies, when the mob comes for you, and you transform into your true self to face sword and sickle, pitchfork and pike, you will thank me. Your coat will gleam and terrify, and no blow will harm you."

Funny because in the same lorebook the unknown packleader goes on to talk about transforming into your true self. Implying werewolves don't hold form for ever.

Or hide in human, fight in werewolf form. The part you posted wasn't clear on that, not like it being clear wolves can put thought and strategy into their decisions (the original argument).

Nevermind that none of this addresses the OOC stress I mentioned in my first post.

Nice to continue hearing my opinion provokes such a response that you continually try to change my mind on it though. I like oposing views

What if you just want to roleplay as a wild sexy werewolf?

I am happy for the people that enjoy playing werewolf but between the rush for corpses, the fact that any non-killing content ruins my flow and my DPS, the lack of versatility in werewolf form (no variety of abilities), and the light attack meta which literally HURTS me to play.... my werewolf character does not get used much.

I enjoy being a wolf and it amuses me when they fumble to open chests and doors. I love the idea of a pack of wolves running a dungeon. But in practice it just isn't that fun for me.

I agree that since it just got re-worked it's unlikely to be changed. But setting aside all the "logical" reasons why the timer may need to exist, there is something about it that feels awkward and clunky in my opinion.

I feel like WW form would work better the way Overload used to work before it was updated. When activated it gets worn down by light or heavy attacks and you'd get a third bar where you could put your other werewolf abilities or any class abilities. Not weapon abilities, though, since you aren't holding a weapon when you change. While you are changed, you could just stop attacking while fights are being explained or whatnot to stay in form. If you want to roleplay or something, just use a target dummy until you turn and then don't light attack. You could easily toggle out of WW form and back to regular form, potentially resulting in builds that leverage both forms and more natural transitions. Also, maybe eating corpses when in WW could increase your ultimate so you could stay permanently changed but that obviously only works if there are enough corpses around.

Another idea I had was that somehow WW form would work like a pet toggle, where instead of being an ultimate you could stay in WW form but at the expense of double-barring an ability. You'd basically be your own pet, haha.

Best way to get it buffed is to stop slotting it. Its a 20pt ultimate that lowers your DPS for a little survivability. So you're not missing much.

I used it a few years ago, it was a great open world thing leveling my stamblade. Once I got to 50, I changed my gear to a few sets of purples and dropped WW.There's cheaper ultimates that do more damage and do that damage WHILE I'm doing normal damage instead of replacing it.

To be honest, it doesn't even look cool. The animations are clunky, the texture is blurred. And all WW look the same.

Increase timer by 50%. Pause when not moving. Sorted.

Sure