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What Do you consider to be a Casual Player?
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BretonMage✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭What type of player do you consider to be a Casual Player? I'm not going to get all possibilities on this poll, if one doesn't match or doesn't fit your needs, please choose other and explain if you wish.
If you would just like to answer as it pertains to yourself, feel free to explain in the comments.
Edit: I forgot, as usual I will give a click for each comment as long as it is not rude even if it is just an "insightful" for sharing your opinion.
Someone who plays casually, which basically means off and on in an none-committed way. Think of it as a casual relationship - only with a video game instead of a person. ^^
Agreed, the word does have this implication, and it may have been introduced to mean something more like "sporadic."
It's kind of unfortunate that there's not another word in circulation, since a lot of people who play regularly, even daily, self-define as "casual" (there are some in this thread). The meaning has clearly shifted, even if the word hasn't.
Yes, that seems to be getting quite common. I think perhaps in reaction to the number of people who are clearly so invested in their games, that we feel the need to clarify that we're, well, not like that. (Not that either way is wrong, just a matter of personal preference.)
So while some of us do play quite regularly, and may even spend a little time trying to be a decent player, I think we're not overwhelmingly concerned with being competitive. So as max_only said, there's also a middle ground between really casual players and the elites. Semi-casuals? Moderates?4 -
BejaProphet✭✭✭✭✭
✭Shorts and t-shirt, possibly no shoes.Royal Poet's Dungeon Tanking Guide https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/416797/royal-poets-guide-to-traditional-tanking-in-veteran-dungeons#latest9 -
Someone who is casual about the amount of time played (hour here, two hours there)For me casual are ppl who don't spend at least 60% of their playing time on eso. Hardcore gamers are theones who complete vet trials. N between them, citizens of eso lol Ppl who just like to chill, traders, housing addicts : so ppl who spend all their time or nearly on eso but not for achievements, more for the ppl around n the atmosphere of the game.1 -
Starlock✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Someone who is casual about the amount of time played (hour here, two hours there)The reason I asked this is when I read the posts on here it looks as if different folks have different ideas of what they mean when they say it. I wanted to see if I was right.
There is no ‘right.’ Use of the term is not standard, and personally? I do not use the term at all. It is a poor one because it is too polysemic.3 -
Saucy_Jack✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I am a casual when it comes to fighting. I am a seasoned vet when it comes to trading.ALL HAIL SNUGGLORR THE MAGNIFICENT, KING OF THE RNG AND NIRN'S ONE TRUE GOD! Also, become a Scrub-scriber! SJ Scrubs: Playing games badly to make you feel better about yourself.2 -
JadeCoin✭✭✭✭Someone who is casual about the content, Meta and Competition be danged I'm here for fun!!The reason I asked this is when I read the posts on here it looks as if different folks have different ideas of what they mean when they say it. I wanted to see if I was right.
There is no ‘right.’ Use of the term is not standard, and personally? I do not use the term at all. It is a poor one because it is too polysemic.
The polysemy should definitely make us stop and think whenever we encounter generic claims about "casuals." This group has been blamed for pretty much every ill known to the game, despite the fact that apparently no one can agree on who they are.4 -
Starlock✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Someone who is casual about the amount of time played (hour here, two hours there)The reason I asked this is when I read the posts on here it looks as if different folks have different ideas of what they mean when they say it. I wanted to see if I was right.
There is no ‘right.’ Use of the term is not standard, and personally? I do not use the term at all. It is a poor one because it is too polysemic.
The polysemy should definitely make us stop and think whenever we encounter generic claims about "casuals." This group has been blamed for pretty much every ill known to the game, despite the fact that apparently no one can agree on who they are.
Most of the time, it seems to mean “people who are not me that I can simplistically scapegoat for all my problems.”11 -
JadeCoin✭✭✭✭Someone who is casual about the content, Meta and Competition be danged I'm here for fun!!The categories in the new Guild Finder are casual, semi-casual, semi-hardcore, and hardcore. So we'll have to make them mean something, I guess, at least there.
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dazee✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Both, they just play this on the sideEasy: Don't know how to heal, don't know how to tank and deals 2k dps.
Basically people who don't want to git gud at anything.
So I'm not casual then? I always considered myself casual. but your definition is so ridiculous I guess not.Playing your character the way your character should play is all that matters. Play as well as you can but never betray the character. Doing so would make playing an mmoRPG pointless.2 -
Casdha✭✭✭✭✭
✭Someone who is casual about the content, Meta and Competition be danged I'm here for fun!!The reason I asked this is when I read the posts on here it looks as if different folks have different ideas of what they mean when they say it. I wanted to see if I was right.
There is no ‘right.’ Use of the term is not standard, and personally? I do not use the term at all. It is a poor one because it is too polysemic.
Kind of like the word this poll is about.......Proud member of the Psijic Order - The first wave - The 0.016%0 -
Kiralyn2000✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Someone who is casual about the content, Meta and Competition be danged I'm here for fun!!I played many more hours of "casual" WoW, back when I played it, than some of the "hardcore" raiders who mostly only logged on for their raid runs each week. Time spent isn't really a good indicator of 'casual' or 'hardcore'.
(i.e, you can futz around wandering, harvesting, and taking pretty screenshots for 80 hours a week; or do HM trials with Deadly Focus™ for 8... )Edited by Kiralyn2000 on April 29, 2019 1:19AM3 -
Cillion3117✭✭✭✭✭Both, they just play this on the sideI play a lot of hours every week, and I consider myself a casual. I've done virtually everything in the game. I just prefer my own fun builds instead of the META. If that means I dont do all the vet endgame stuff, then so be it.1 -
jpo✭✭✭Someone who is casual about the content, Meta and Competition be danged I'm here for fun!!Well...only 1 of my 6 characters wears full armor. Some have no chest piece, one wears no pants (long shirt looks like a skirt), some wear no shoulder piece.
One uses a single dagger only and two have used zero weapons.
I only solo PvE and usually play a couple hours a night.
None of my characters chase the meta...they are what they are.
Am I a Casual or Hardcore?4 -
Mr_Walker✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I was in a dungeon yesterday, and the folks in the group sounded like they were enjoying themselves, searching for chests, and heavy sacks, and barely pumping out 50K dps between them all, it was horrifying, they were obviously filthy casuals.
I definitely prefer to play with only serious people, all I want to hear is people panting from finger effort. Maybe even a little weeping as their fingers start to bleed from under the nail.8 -
Mr_Walker✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭KhajiitFelix wrote: »Someone who will always take a shortcut, take the easiest way, won't spend a lot of time on activities and the most important won't bother learning to improve.
That's not a casual. the word for that is stupid.
I know right, people who don't treat this game like it's a second job. Disgusting!3 -
Neither / OtherThe definitions offered in the poll are rather odd, and I have a difficult time assigning either to "casual." Time invested has little to nothing to do with anything - typically "hardcore" gamers will invest more of their free time in the game because it means more to them, but the casual gamer can invest just as much because it's a fun way to spend that time.
Meta also has nothing to do with it - I take the game very seriously and have never played a single "meta" build, avoiding them like the plague and preferring to complete content with my own builds based on entirely different premises. At the same time, I consider myself a "hardcore" player based on the amount of effort and value I put into those builds and clearing difficult content with them, which segues into my main point:
To me, "casual" vs. "hardcore" has to do with the effort and value placed on the aspects of the game which interest the player.
There are players who run dungeons, maybe a trial now and then, do some selling in their guild store, solo quest, and are reasonably successful at it all without taking it terribly seriously. It's "just a game" to them, and they place a fairly low value on it compared to everything else in their life. That, to me, is a casual gamer, and it's not a bad thing.
A "hardcore gamer," by contrast, is someone who invests heavily emotionally in the game, and to whom in-game success, be it in dungeons, trials, PvP, or trade, is very meaningful and a large part of their self-worth. They put more effort in because it means more to them, and are often (but not always) more successful because of it. There are, however, "casual gamers" who are naturally talented and better players than some "hardcore gamers," so that's not a hard rule.
Importantly, "casual" =/= bad, and "hardcore" =/= elite. Sometimes I think we self-styled hardcore gamers could benefit from a more casual mindset, stepping back and reassessing how important the game has become to our lives. I know I could.Edited by Aulus_Claudius on April 29, 2019 2:17AM6 -
TequilaFire✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Neither / OtherA normal player that has a life and plays for enjoyment without worrying about what color underwear the player they group with is wearing.4 -
Tasear✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Someone who is casual about the amount of time played (hour here, two hours there)Makes me wonder...
I am no meta dog, but there's no way I can lie and say I am casual. I will just go with answer people just misuse term to insult each other on both sides.Edited by Tasear on April 29, 2019 2:56AM4 -
ArchMikem✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Someone who is casual about the content, Meta and Competition be danged I'm here for fun!!"My character's gear is either crafted or dropped from overland or easier dungeons. Most of my time is spent Questing or exploring, or maybe I roleplay and actual gameplay comes second. I've never stepped into a Trial unless it's just to see what it looks like, or I hitched a ride on a Normal run to get a taste. I'm not here for leaderboards, I'm here to have fun in an Elder Scrolls game."
^ Pretty much that, more or less.CP2,000 Master Explorer - AvA One Star General - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
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Heelie✭✭✭✭✭Both, they just play this on the sideI think time has nothing to do with it. Some of the best players in the game play like 8-10 hours a week. What matters is the aproach to content. Mostly your mentallity. If you intend is not to be the best at the specific content you do. You're a casual player. This might define above 90% of the community. But eso is not very competitive so I think that's fair.Most OwOrated healer of all time2 -
zyk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Both, they just play this on the sideThe ceiling has been lowered so much that Casual is the only option in ESO.Edited by zyk on April 29, 2019 8:27AM1 -
lokulin✭✭✭✭✭Neither / OtherI have thousands of hours in the game, 32k plus achievement points on my main, two accounts and twelve characters but am still casual because I don't really get in to trials or pvp. Maybe I just don't care about competition or the current meta enough, but I do care a little bit.I've hidden your signature.1 -
Runkorko✭✭✭✭✭
✭Someone who is casual about the content, Meta and Competition be danged I'm here for fun!!You can play 1h per day and stil be damn hardcore player
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max_only✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Someone who is casual about the amount of time played (hour here, two hours there)The categories in the new Guild Finder are casual, semi-casual, semi-hardcore, and hardcore. So we'll have to make them mean something, I guess, at least there.
For this I will go with percentage of players enrolled vs active and type of content organized by officers.
Casual: not a full/active guild, no weekly organized events, but good for holiday event participants. No trader space.
Semi casual: mostly full guild/ half active, a few regular organized events maybe 1 or 2 a week. Easy to medium content. Inconsistent trader space. (No trials but good for dungeon groups)
Semi-hardcore: almost full to capacity/mostly active. Regularly organized events. Easy to hard content with no pressure, more consistent that not trader space. (Yes they’ll do trials but leaderboard isn’t important)
Hardcore: almost full to capacity/always active. Regular organized events. Hard content, leaderboards, progression, rankings, raid schedule, organized pvp time, consistent trader space, etc.
Time played doesn’t factor into my definitions. YmmvEdited by max_only on April 29, 2019 4:58AM#FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
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dazee✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Both, they just play this on the sideI was in a dungeon yesterday, and the folks in the group sounded like they were enjoying themselves, searching for chests, and heavy sacks, and barely pumping out 50K dps between them all, it was horrifying, they were obviously filthy casuals.
I definitely prefer to play with only serious people, all I want to hear is people panting from finger effort. Maybe even a little weeping as their fingers start to bleed from under the nail.
God forbid people do less than 50k dps in a normal dungeon. it will take forever and you might not even pass the dps checks!Playing your character the way your character should play is all that matters. Play as well as you can but never betray the character. Doing so would make playing an mmoRPG pointless.0 -
FierceSam✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I despise segregating players based on any aspect of their game. For me one of the beauties of the game is that it is equally engaging and fun for the eternal role playing quester and the perpetual PvPer.
I don’t like the choice of categorisation for the guild finder, it’s astonishingly lazy labelling and seems to perpetuate an idea that social guilds are somehow less valuable than leaderboard chaser guilds, when both should be equally lauded.
For me a casual player is someone who hasn’t gone spreadsheet.
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Komputerheld✭✭✭Someone who is casual about the amount of time played (hour here, two hours there)Casaul, I'm playing when real life gives time...1 -
Linaleah✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Someone who is casual about the content, Meta and Competition be danged I'm here for fun!!I despise segregating players based on any aspect of their game. For me one of the beauties of the game is that it is equally engaging and fun for the eternal role playing quester and the perpetual PvPer.
I don’t like the choice of categorisation for the guild finder, it’s astonishingly lazy labelling and seems to perpetuate an idea that social guilds are somehow less valuable than leaderboard chaser guilds, when both should be equally lauded.
For me a casual player is someone who hasn’t gone spreadsheet.
unless I misunderstood, there are 2 categories in guild finder. first category is what type of content you prefer to do - trading, socializing, dungeons, pvp, roleplaying etc. and second - subcategory for each of the above is casual to hardcore ranking. implying that social guilds ALSO come in casual to hardcore variety. neither are more or less valuable - all it is is a category for people who might be looking for varying levels of involvement to have easier time finding it.
i would guess in case of social guilds - hardcore part of the spectrum would be more organized social events, active discord, etc.
I'm honestly more annoyed that the main categories do not include housing.dirty worthless casual.
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