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  • haelene
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    Jeremy wrote: »
    When did I say I thought I hurt your feelings?

    You may want to try reading what I type a few times before you respond or something, because I never even remotely said that.

    What I said is having to outnumber people 10 to 1 is the coward's way to win. And I'll stand by that. And it's certainly not fun.

    Can somebody explain why people don't like zergs or groups in Cyrodill? A war zone? Meant for large scale faction v faction battles? I'm genuinely curious because Cyrodill is marketed as, again, a war zone. Where armies fight. Not for 1v1, and if you're trying to 1v1 isn't that kind of... not what it's for? Isn't that the purpose of battlegrounds? Did I miss the brochure? Or is this a PvP culture thing?
    Edited by haelene on April 19, 2019 9:22AM
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    Jeremy wrote: »
    There is nothing "large scale" about 10 vs 1.

    Well then aren't you the one who's not in the norm? Shouldn't you be grouping up? What are large groups supposed to do when they see someone - ignore them? That's counter to the argument many are using here - that if they leave someone alone then there's a chance they'll come back with their buddies.

    Again, I am not a PvP'er. Just trying to understand the thought process here so that If I decide to suck it up and venture into hell I know what's expected of me.
    Edited by haelene on April 19, 2019 9:27AM
  • efster
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    Streega wrote: »
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    I personally leave questers alone unless they attack me first. But if you're going to come into a competitive campaign, flip strategic map locations so you can do PVE dailies in peace and get slaughtered by the local PVPers for it, I have absolutely no sympathy for you. Vivec is not a PVE-er friendly campaign; this is not a secret, and if you DON'T know it going in because you don't usually PVP, one look at zone chat will clearly tell you that you're not welcome (because you're taking up a spot that someone who wants to PVP could take instead).

    How about going to another campaign? How about doing the Conquest board quests and help your alliance while getting jubilee boxes (and Gladiator proofs)? How about limiting yourself to the Fighters Guild bounty (just do it on multiple characters)? How about going down to IC, where it's always open season on PVEers anyway, and doing the dailies there? You have options.

    Why would you expect other people to change their normal everyday playstyle just because you decided to show up for a little bit?

    1. I (and probably none of my guildies) have NEVER been to Vivec - we know it's a serious PvP going on there, and we respect that;
    2. How about that: we went to Malacath, a campaign opened only for this event - and what did the PvP badases do? Whine about the Emperor and force ZOS to close the server for everybody. For three hours. On a free day (for some folks).
    3. So your "everyday play style" includes camping Cheydinghal and harassing noobs. How interesting. Wait, no - it's actually pathetic.

    I'm talking about PVE players coming to VIVEC, messing with the map, and expecting Vivec regulars to "leave them alone". I don't know why you want to personally attack me for having an opinion and tell me about what happens in temporary campaigns, but you do you I guess.

    Anyway, there are always gankers in the towns looking for free AP, even in Cheydinhal. When I was new to the game and trying to complete the town quests for the 1000 quests achievement, without knowing anything about PVP, campaigns, or anything, a streaky yelly sorc made my life (in Cheydinhal, as it happens) miserable, and sure, I didn't like it, but that was that person's playstyle, and value judgements about it didn't get me anywhere then and they're not going to get the outraged PVEers anywhere now. Telling people the way they choose to play is bad and wrong by some made-up metric you decided on isn't going to make them change their ways, I promise you. If you're there with friends, just team up and wreck their faces, you'll be able to do your quests until they hoof it back to town.
    AD is the best looking faction. I don't make the rules, I just enforce them.
  • Jeremy
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    haelene wrote: »
    Jeremy wrote: »
    There is nothing "large scale" about 10 vs 1.

    Well then aren't you the one who's not in the norm? Shouldn't you be grouping up? What are large groups supposed to do when they see someone - ignore them? That's counter to the argument many are using here - that if they leave someone alone then there's a chance they'll come back with their buddies.

    Again, I am not a PvP'er. Just trying to understand the thought process here so that If I decide to suck it up and venture into hell I know what's expected of me.

    Large groups should go tackle keeps or resources, not hunt lone PvEers trying to pick up quests.
    Edited by Jeremy on April 19, 2019 9:32AM
  • haelene
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    Jeremy wrote: »
    haelene wrote: »
    Jeremy wrote: »
    There is nothing "large scale" about 10 vs 1.

    Well then aren't you the one who's not in the norm? Shouldn't you be grouping up? What are large groups supposed to do when they see someone - ignore them? That's counter to the argument many are using here - that if they leave someone alone then there's a chance they'll come back with their buddies.

    Again, I am not a PvP'er. Just trying to understand the thought process here so that If I decide to suck it up and venture into hell I know what's expected of me.

    Large groups should go tackle keeps or resources, not hunt lone PvEers trying to pick up quests.

    Again, why aren't you grouping up? When in Rome and such. Is it hard to find a group there?
  • Jeremy
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    haelene wrote: »
    Jeremy wrote: »
    haelene wrote: »
    Jeremy wrote: »
    There is nothing "large scale" about 10 vs 1.

    Well then aren't you the one who's not in the norm? Shouldn't you be grouping up? What are large groups supposed to do when they see someone - ignore them? That's counter to the argument many are using here - that if they leave someone alone then there's a chance they'll come back with their buddies.

    Again, I am not a PvP'er. Just trying to understand the thought process here so that If I decide to suck it up and venture into hell I know what's expected of me.

    Large groups should go tackle keeps or resources, not hunt lone PvEers trying to pick up quests.

    Again, why aren't you grouping up? When in Rome and such. Is it hard to find a group there?

    I"m not talking about me. I'm talking about Zergs who hunt solo PvE'ers who are just trying to pick up quests. That's a cowardly and pathetic way to play. I do team up when I PvP - and at the top of my list are the ______ who play like that. I've never been in a group that played like that - and never will be either.
    Edited by Jeremy on April 19, 2019 9:39AM
  • IndorilArwynLlethran
    If you don't want to PVP - do not enter PVP. This game is a little bigger than your boxies collecting.
  • haelene
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    Jeremy wrote: »
    haelene wrote: »
    Jeremy wrote: »
    haelene wrote: »
    Jeremy wrote: »
    There is nothing "large scale" about 10 vs 1.

    Well then aren't you the one who's not in the norm? Shouldn't you be grouping up? What are large groups supposed to do when they see someone - ignore them? That's counter to the argument many are using here - that if they leave someone alone then there's a chance they'll come back with their buddies.

    Again, I am not a PvP'er. Just trying to understand the thought process here so that If I decide to suck it up and venture into hell I know what's expected of me.

    Large groups should go tackle keeps or resources, not hunt lone PvEers trying to pick up quests.

    Again, why aren't you grouping up? When in Rome and such. Is it hard to find a group there?

    I"m not talking about me. I'm talking about Zergs who hunt solo PvE'ers who are just trying to do quests. That's a cowardly and pathetic way to play.

    Hmmm. From my perspective it sounds like a group of people who don't understand the culture and purpose of an area going into it and expecting it to change to suit their playstyle, especially if there's no good reason not to respect it by grouping up and participating. I'm not sure it's fair to expect PvP'ers to automatically know that a person is actually alone and only doing quests. I'm sure serious PvP'ers and those in groups are doing quests too, no?

    I mean, I expect PvP'ers that come into dungeons to at least attempt to participate and follow mechanics - in other words to respect the culture of the event they've chosen to participate in. I see no reason why we shouldn't extend them the same courtesy.
  • Jeremy
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    haelene wrote: »
    Jeremy wrote: »
    haelene wrote: »
    Jeremy wrote: »
    haelene wrote: »
    Jeremy wrote: »
    There is nothing "large scale" about 10 vs 1.

    Well then aren't you the one who's not in the norm? Shouldn't you be grouping up? What are large groups supposed to do when they see someone - ignore them? That's counter to the argument many are using here - that if they leave someone alone then there's a chance they'll come back with their buddies.

    Again, I am not a PvP'er. Just trying to understand the thought process here so that If I decide to suck it up and venture into hell I know what's expected of me.

    Large groups should go tackle keeps or resources, not hunt lone PvEers trying to pick up quests.

    Again, why aren't you grouping up? When in Rome and such. Is it hard to find a group there?

    I"m not talking about me. I'm talking about Zergs who hunt solo PvE'ers who are just trying to do quests. That's a cowardly and pathetic way to play.

    Hmmm. From my perspective it sounds like a group of people who don't understand the culture and purpose of an area going into it and expecting it to change to suit their playstyle, especially if there's no good reason not to respect it by grouping up and participating. I'm not sure it's fair to expect PvP'ers to automatically know that a person is actually alone and only doing quests. I'm sure serious PvP'ers and those in groups are doing quests too, no?

    I mean, I expect PvP'ers that come into dungeons to at least attempt to participate and follow mechanics - in other words to respect the culture of the event they've chosen to participate in. I see no reason why we shouldn't extend them the same courtesy.

    It might be your culture and purpose in Cyrodil to zerg lone PvEers with massive numbers while they are trying to pick quests - but it isn't mine. People can have what ever kind of play style they want - but that doesn't mean I have to "respect" it. Because it will be a cold day in hell before I respect people who play like that.
  • Reistr_the_Unbroken
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    Jeremy wrote: »
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    I know you guys enjoy PvP a lot however during the event my dear AD would you mind staying out of dailys zone in Cheydinhal and let players enjoy the event?
    I know i know its PvP zone you should get your a$$ wiped, L2P QQ ... whatever. But what kind of *** u have to be to just go for easy kill vs PvE players?!

    Really I never had such issues years back during events and now it seems some stupid kiddos joined ESO community and are wrecking event for most of players.
    Dear ZOS this week 3 event is just lame and I cannot say I enjoy it.

    Sadly a lot of PvPers are made up of mindless hoards who just run around in zergs attacking anything that moves. For some reason they think it's satisfying to outnumber someone a gazillion to 1 and then beat them into the ground like packs of savage dogs. I don't get it either. It's kind of pathetic to be honest. And the only reason they enjoy it is because they are trolls who derive some kind of sadistic pleasure at the thought they are killing something controlled by an actual person and causing them grief. It's the only explanation. Because there is certainly nothing else they could enjoy about such a dull one-sided contest.

    Because it's fun and because I can. And there's nothing you can do to stop it. Don't like it? Don't go to Cyrodiil.
    Don’t like PvE? Then do us all a favor and don’t do PvE quests

    Awwwww.... My little special friend has come back to play. Still having nightmares about the big bad pvpers ganking you in the sewers trying to get your skin? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    And congratulations on the failed assumption. I love pve. I run trials and dungeons everyday. But you know what they say about assumptions right? Except your making an ass out of yourself.

    Oh and btw- like I said in an earlier post: I already bought the skin months ago. Nice try tho
  • Miswar
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    The gankers at these quest locations are 95% not regular pvp players. Regulars could not care less about these quests nor questers.

    Mostly the gankers are some semi try hard pve players that can't kill anything else than noobs.

    ...sad but true. Most regular pvp players actually loathe these gankers but ofc sometimes you might actually be rolled due the keep fights since towns are respawns.
  • IndorilArwynLlethran
    Ah, excuse me for interrupting, but I have to clarify.
    to zerg lone PvEers with massive numbers
    That must be another PVEers doing bounty quests. Coz If a group of regular PVPers attack a PVEer he dies to first 1.5 guys in like 0.1 sec before the rest of the group appear. So, address your anger to your fellows questers, not our fault ;)
    Edited by IndorilArwynLlethran on April 19, 2019 9:56AM
  • Jeremy
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    Miswar wrote: »
    The gankers at these quest locations are 95% not regular pvp players. Regulars could not care less about these quests nor questers.

    Mostly the gankers are some semi try hard pve players that can't kill anything else than noobs.

    ...sad but true. Most regular pvp players actually loathe these gankers but ofc sometimes you might actually be rolled due the keep fights since towns are respawns.

    Well said.
    Edited by Jeremy on April 19, 2019 9:55AM
  • haelene
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    Jeremy wrote: »
    haelene wrote: »
    Jeremy wrote: »
    haelene wrote: »
    Jeremy wrote: »
    haelene wrote: »
    Jeremy wrote: »
    There is nothing "large scale" about 10 vs 1.

    Well then aren't you the one who's not in the norm? Shouldn't you be grouping up? What are large groups supposed to do when they see someone - ignore them? That's counter to the argument many are using here - that if they leave someone alone then there's a chance they'll come back with their buddies.

    Again, I am not a PvP'er. Just trying to understand the thought process here so that If I decide to suck it up and venture into hell I know what's expected of me.

    Large groups should go tackle keeps or resources, not hunt lone PvEers trying to pick up quests.

    Again, why aren't you grouping up? When in Rome and such. Is it hard to find a group there?

    I"m not talking about me. I'm talking about Zergs who hunt solo PvE'ers who are just trying to do quests. That's a cowardly and pathetic way to play.

    Hmmm. From my perspective it sounds like a group of people who don't understand the culture and purpose of an area going into it and expecting it to change to suit their playstyle, especially if there's no good reason not to respect it by grouping up and participating. I'm not sure it's fair to expect PvP'ers to automatically know that a person is actually alone and only doing quests. I'm sure serious PvP'ers and those in groups are doing quests too, no?

    I mean, I expect PvP'ers that come into dungeons to at least attempt to participate and follow mechanics - in other words to respect the culture of the event they've chosen to participate in. I see no reason why we shouldn't extend them the same courtesy.

    It might be your culture and purpose in Cyrodil to zerg lone PvEers with massive numbers while they are trying to pick quests - but it isn't mine. People can have what ever kind of play style they want - but that doesn't mean I have to "respect" it. Because it will be a cold day in hell before I respect people who play like that.

    Umm.

    I'm not sure where you got the idea that it's my culture? I think maybe you're a little too quick to anger here and it's blinded you to what I've stated repeatedly for as long as I've been on this forum. I even imply it pretty heavily in the post you quoted. I am not a PvP'er.

    So, would you agree then that PvP'ers can do dungeons next week in entirely PvP gear, ignore mechanics, queue as things they're not to get a quick queue, and then yell at us for asking them to participate courteously?
  • Jeremy
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    haelene wrote: »
    Jeremy wrote: »
    haelene wrote: »
    Jeremy wrote: »
    haelene wrote: »
    Jeremy wrote: »
    haelene wrote: »
    Jeremy wrote: »
    There is nothing "large scale" about 10 vs 1.

    Well then aren't you the one who's not in the norm? Shouldn't you be grouping up? What are large groups supposed to do when they see someone - ignore them? That's counter to the argument many are using here - that if they leave someone alone then there's a chance they'll come back with their buddies.

    Again, I am not a PvP'er. Just trying to understand the thought process here so that If I decide to suck it up and venture into hell I know what's expected of me.

    Large groups should go tackle keeps or resources, not hunt lone PvEers trying to pick up quests.

    Again, why aren't you grouping up? When in Rome and such. Is it hard to find a group there?

    I"m not talking about me. I'm talking about Zergs who hunt solo PvE'ers who are just trying to do quests. That's a cowardly and pathetic way to play.

    Hmmm. From my perspective it sounds like a group of people who don't understand the culture and purpose of an area going into it and expecting it to change to suit their playstyle, especially if there's no good reason not to respect it by grouping up and participating. I'm not sure it's fair to expect PvP'ers to automatically know that a person is actually alone and only doing quests. I'm sure serious PvP'ers and those in groups are doing quests too, no?

    I mean, I expect PvP'ers that come into dungeons to at least attempt to participate and follow mechanics - in other words to respect the culture of the event they've chosen to participate in. I see no reason why we shouldn't extend them the same courtesy.

    It might be your culture and purpose in Cyrodil to zerg lone PvEers with massive numbers while they are trying to pick quests - but it isn't mine. People can have what ever kind of play style they want - but that doesn't mean I have to "respect" it. Because it will be a cold day in hell before I respect people who play like that.

    Umm.

    I'm not sure where you got the idea that it's my culture?

    I said it MIGHT be. I didn't say it was.
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    Jeremy wrote: »
    I said it MIGHT be. I didn't say it was.

    Please don't be pendantic. Everyone knows full well what you meant.
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    haelene wrote: »
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    I said it MIGHT be. I didn't say it was.

    Please don't be pendantic. Everyone knows full well what you meant.

    I meant exactly what I said. I don't know you or how you play. But you do seem to be going out of your way to defend it.
    Edited by Jeremy on April 19, 2019 10:00AM
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    I think more PvE tier players might enjoy themselves if they take the time to really learn how PvP works. You can run impen shackle and and a cheap stam or mag set and have a much easier time learning the basics. I do think a lot of PvP based players go out of their way to guide curious folk in the right direction. Last Mid Year, the amount of heals and rezzes I got from players clearly there for the event was actually refreshing. I think it's pretty dope when a PvE player wanders in Cyrodiil and enjoys it. The way these forums portray PvE vs PvP is not how it actually is. Some complain about the Undaunted grind...but never even completed it, others complain about gankers...and have never even done the intro quest and unlocked rapids. It's kind of silly.

    I have been treated like garbage because I have a Sergent title on my DK, yet I do both. Come on people.
    Edited by D0PAMINE on April 19, 2019 10:04AM
  • Swiftfox_Bouncyface
    Bruh farming noobs in towns feels good ngl
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    Leader of Furry Squad PvP Guild

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    i have anxiety
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    Hewwo my fursona is Swiftfox Bouncyface I'm 37 years old and I love furries OwO, i'm also a little bit shy but I'll have you know that's because i was *** at furcon >/ / /<

  • haelene
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    Jeremy wrote: »
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    I said it MIGHT be. I didn't say it was.

    Please don't be pendantic. Everyone knows full well what you meant.

    I meant exactly what I said. I don't know you or how you play. But you do seem to be going out of your way to defend it.

    Right. I forgot. Attacking people for how they choose to play in their zone, expecting them to change for a tourist, and then insulting them for it is such a grand moral for a dutiful PvE'er to uphold. I'm so sorry to have stepped out of line!

    Since you've avoided my question at least twice now - I'll just state this. If I go into Cyrodill I'm going to play like I'm in Cyrodill. That means grouping up and understanding that PvP will happen, period. I also expect PvP'ers that choose to participate next week to carry their weight, even if it means they have to ask questions.
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    Jeremy wrote: »
    haelene wrote: »
    Jeremy wrote: »
    haelene wrote: »
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    I said it MIGHT be. I didn't say it was.

    Please don't be pendantic. Everyone knows full well what you meant.

    I meant exactly what I said. I don't know you or how you play. But you do seem to be going out of your way to defend it.

    Right. I forgot. Attacking people for how they choose to play in their zone, expecting them to change for a tourist, and then insulting them for it is such a grand moral for a dutiful PvE'er to uphold. I'm so sorry to have stepped out of line!

    Since you've avoided my question at least twice now - I'll just state this. If I go into Cyrodill I'm going to play like I'm in Cyrodill. That means grouping up and understanding that PvP will happen, period. I also expect PvP'ers that choose to participate next week to carry their weight, even if it means they have to ask questions.

    Yes - I insult the play style of cowards.

    Zergs should be taking keeps and resources, not preying on lone PvEers trying to pick up quests. That's not "PvP". It's lame bullying and stupidity. Nor is it a play style I will ever respect.

    If you have an issue with me "attacking" that kind of play style I suggest you simply refrain from reading my comments. I don't know what else to tell you.

    People will fight anywhere in any size group if they think it will attract a big fight. Even killing PVEers will draw calls for help in zone for Pvpers to show up. It's a valid tactic
  • Jeremy
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    technohic wrote: »
    Jeremy wrote: »
    haelene wrote: »
    Jeremy wrote: »
    haelene wrote: »
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    I said it MIGHT be. I didn't say it was.

    Please don't be pendantic. Everyone knows full well what you meant.

    I meant exactly what I said. I don't know you or how you play. But you do seem to be going out of your way to defend it.

    Right. I forgot. Attacking people for how they choose to play in their zone, expecting them to change for a tourist, and then insulting them for it is such a grand moral for a dutiful PvE'er to uphold. I'm so sorry to have stepped out of line!

    Since you've avoided my question at least twice now - I'll just state this. If I go into Cyrodill I'm going to play like I'm in Cyrodill. That means grouping up and understanding that PvP will happen, period. I also expect PvP'ers that choose to participate next week to carry their weight, even if it means they have to ask questions.

    Yes - I insult the play style of cowards.

    Zergs should be taking keeps and resources, not preying on lone PvEers trying to pick up quests. That's not "PvP". It's lame bullying and stupidity. Nor is it a play style I will ever respect.

    If you have an issue with me "attacking" that kind of play style I suggest you simply refrain from reading my comments. I don't know what else to tell you.

    People will fight anywhere in any size group if they think it will attract a big fight. Even killing PVEers will draw calls for help in zone for Pvpers to show up. It's a valid tactic

    The last thing the people I am talking about want is a "big fight". Every time the fight starts turning more fair they haul ass and run away like little children covered in spiders.
    Edited by Jeremy on April 19, 2019 10:31AM
  • Mr_Nobody
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    Jeremy wrote: »
    technohic wrote: »
    Jeremy wrote: »
    haelene wrote: »
    Jeremy wrote: »
    haelene wrote: »
    Jeremy wrote: »
    I said it MIGHT be. I didn't say it was.

    Please don't be pendantic. Everyone knows full well what you meant.

    I meant exactly what I said. I don't know you or how you play. But you do seem to be going out of your way to defend it.

    Right. I forgot. Attacking people for how they choose to play in their zone, expecting them to change for a tourist, and then insulting them for it is such a grand moral for a dutiful PvE'er to uphold. I'm so sorry to have stepped out of line!

    Since you've avoided my question at least twice now - I'll just state this. If I go into Cyrodill I'm going to play like I'm in Cyrodill. That means grouping up and understanding that PvP will happen, period. I also expect PvP'ers that choose to participate next week to carry their weight, even if it means they have to ask questions.

    Yes - I insult the play style of cowards.

    Zergs should be taking keeps and resources, not preying on lone PvEers trying to pick up quests. That's not "PvP". It's lame bullying and stupidity. Nor is it a play style I will ever respect.

    If you have an issue with me "attacking" that kind of play style I suggest you simply refrain from reading my comments. I don't know what else to tell you.

    People will fight anywhere in any size group if they think it will attract a big fight. Even killing PVEers will draw calls for help in zone for Pvpers to show up. It's a valid tactic

    The last thing the people I am talking about want is a "big fight". Every time the fight starts turning more fair they haul ass and run away like little children covered in spiders.

    Or every magsorc now finds you 1v1 in the middle of nowhere, tags and streaks 5x times like its a 1v4.

    Has anyone else noticed it? :neutral:
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  • technohic
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    Mr_Nobody wrote: »
    Jeremy wrote: »
    technohic wrote: »
    Jeremy wrote: »
    haelene wrote: »
    Jeremy wrote: »
    haelene wrote: »
    Jeremy wrote: »
    I said it MIGHT be. I didn't say it was.

    Please don't be pendantic. Everyone knows full well what you meant.

    I meant exactly what I said. I don't know you or how you play. But you do seem to be going out of your way to defend it.

    Right. I forgot. Attacking people for how they choose to play in their zone, expecting them to change for a tourist, and then insulting them for it is such a grand moral for a dutiful PvE'er to uphold. I'm so sorry to have stepped out of line!

    Since you've avoided my question at least twice now - I'll just state this. If I go into Cyrodill I'm going to play like I'm in Cyrodill. That means grouping up and understanding that PvP will happen, period. I also expect PvP'ers that choose to participate next week to carry their weight, even if it means they have to ask questions.

    Yes - I insult the play style of cowards.

    Zergs should be taking keeps and resources, not preying on lone PvEers trying to pick up quests. That's not "PvP". It's lame bullying and stupidity. Nor is it a play style I will ever respect.

    If you have an issue with me "attacking" that kind of play style I suggest you simply refrain from reading my comments. I don't know what else to tell you.

    People will fight anywhere in any size group if they think it will attract a big fight. Even killing PVEers will draw calls for help in zone for Pvpers to show up. It's a valid tactic

    The last thing the people I am talking about want is a "big fight". Every time the fight starts turning more fair they haul ass and run away like little children covered in spiders.

    Or every magsorc now finds you 1v1 in the middle of nowhere, tags and streaks 5x times like its a 1v4.

    Has anyone else noticed it? :neutral:

    New tactic to keep you stuck in combat, unable to mount or port until they die
  • Salvas_Aren
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    haelene wrote: »
    Jeremy wrote: »
    haelene wrote: »
    Jeremy wrote: »
    There is nothing "large scale" about 10 vs 1.

    Well then aren't you the one who's not in the norm? Shouldn't you be grouping up? What are large groups supposed to do when they see someone - ignore them? That's counter to the argument many are using here - that if they leave someone alone then there's a chance they'll come back with their buddies.

    Again, I am not a PvP'er. Just trying to understand the thought process here so that If I decide to suck it up and venture into hell I know what's expected of me.

    Large groups should go tackle keeps or resources, not hunt lone PvEers trying to pick up quests.

    Again, why aren't you grouping up? When in Rome and such. Is it hard to find a group there?

    I did the Rome thing differently:

    After getting zerged down by several PvP zergballs and PvE zergballs, which eventually led to only getting 1 Tharn page from 3 crates, I ganked the questers myself.

  • haelene
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    haelene wrote: »
    Jeremy wrote: »
    haelene wrote: »
    Jeremy wrote: »
    There is nothing "large scale" about 10 vs 1.

    Well then aren't you the one who's not in the norm? Shouldn't you be grouping up? What are large groups supposed to do when they see someone - ignore them? That's counter to the argument many are using here - that if they leave someone alone then there's a chance they'll come back with their buddies.

    Again, I am not a PvP'er. Just trying to understand the thought process here so that If I decide to suck it up and venture into hell I know what's expected of me.

    Large groups should go tackle keeps or resources, not hunt lone PvEers trying to pick up quests.

    Again, why aren't you grouping up? When in Rome and such. Is it hard to find a group there?

    I did the Rome thing differently:

    After getting zerged down by several PvP zergballs and PvE zergballs, which eventually led to only getting 1 Tharn page from 3 crates, I ganked the questers myself.

    I mean, I wouldn't say I agree with that choice but I suppose that is one way to do it.

    Lol, at least you got 1 page! I suffered through 45+ BG's for some alchemy materials. Personally I'm done for the week. Not going to do anymore content I hate for some poorly textured costume pages that I won't use and that have a horrible drop rate. If there was more incentive - say more of the other motif's actually dropped I might get back too it, but it is what it is. *shurg* Again, not everything has to be my cup of tea.

    Next week though - I'm going to town on those pledges. May even offer to carry some PvP'ers to show them that not all of us are elitist jerks that try and police how other people play.
  • Reistr_the_Unbroken
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    Jeremy wrote: »
    Jeremy wrote: »
    Jeremy wrote: »
    Jamdarius wrote: »
    I know you guys enjoy PvP a lot however during the event my dear AD would you mind staying out of dailys zone in Cheydinhal and let players enjoy the event?
    I know i know its PvP zone you should get your a$$ wiped, L2P QQ ... whatever. But what kind of *** u have to be to just go for easy kill vs PvE players?!

    Really I never had such issues years back during events and now it seems some stupid kiddos joined ESO community and are wrecking event for most of players.
    Dear ZOS this week 3 event is just lame and I cannot say I enjoy it.

    Sadly a lot of PvPers are made up of mindless hoards who just run around in zergs attacking anything that moves. For some reason they think it's satisfying to outnumber someone a gazillion to 1 and then beat them into the ground like packs of savage dogs. I don't get it either. It's kind of pathetic to be honest. And the only reason they enjoy it is because they are trolls who derive some kind of sadistic pleasure at the thought they are killing something controlled by an actual person and causing them grief. It's the only explanation. Because there is certainly nothing else they could enjoy about such a dull one-sided contest.

    Because it's fun and because I can. And there's nothing you can do to stop it. Don't like it? Don't go to Cyrodiil.

    Yeah, it's just so much "fun" to instantly gank some poor guy trying to do his quest with 10 other people. Such a blast let me tell you...

    I wonder if you would think it's so much fun if it happened to you? If you ever want to find out, let me know. I can arrange to have a small army slaughter you while you are alone so you can experience some of that fun you are talking about.

    It is. And I have. Multiple times. Only difference between me and you is that I suck it up and adapt and go into Cyrodiil knowing that is what I need to expect. Instead of coming to the forums crying to Zos about the big bad pvpers playing by the rules Zos implemented.

    Nah, the difference between me and you is I don't enjoy outnumbering people 10 to 1 because 1) it's boring and stupid and 2) it's the coward's way to win.

    Also: you need to learn the difference in "crying" and making fun of people who have to outnumber people to win fights.

    What was that saying from elementary school? Oh yeah. Sticks and stones.....you know the rest. It's fun to me and I'll be that coward. Feel better now that you think you hurt my feelings? Lol.
    Try saying that phrase irl to people getting bullied, then come back to us on that
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    Jeremy wrote: »
    Jeremy wrote: »
    Jeremy wrote: »
    Jamdarius wrote: »
    I know you guys enjoy PvP a lot however during the event my dear AD would you mind staying out of dailys zone in Cheydinhal and let players enjoy the event?
    I know i know its PvP zone you should get your a$$ wiped, L2P QQ ... whatever. But what kind of *** u have to be to just go for easy kill vs PvE players?!

    Really I never had such issues years back during events and now it seems some stupid kiddos joined ESO community and are wrecking event for most of players.
    Dear ZOS this week 3 event is just lame and I cannot say I enjoy it.

    Sadly a lot of PvPers are made up of mindless hoards who just run around in zergs attacking anything that moves. For some reason they think it's satisfying to outnumber someone a gazillion to 1 and then beat them into the ground like packs of savage dogs. I don't get it either. It's kind of pathetic to be honest. And the only reason they enjoy it is because they are trolls who derive some kind of sadistic pleasure at the thought they are killing something controlled by an actual person and causing them grief. It's the only explanation. Because there is certainly nothing else they could enjoy about such a dull one-sided contest.

    Because it's fun and because I can. And there's nothing you can do to stop it. Don't like it? Don't go to Cyrodiil.

    Yeah, it's just so much "fun" to instantly gank some poor guy trying to do his quest with 10 other people. Such a blast let me tell you...

    I wonder if you would think it's so much fun if it happened to you? If you ever want to find out, let me know. I can arrange to have a small army slaughter you while you are alone so you can experience some of that fun you are talking about.

    It is. And I have. Multiple times. Only difference between me and you is that I suck it up and adapt and go into Cyrodiil knowing that is what I need to expect. Instead of coming to the forums crying to Zos about the big bad pvpers playing by the rules Zos implemented.

    Nah, the difference between me and you is I don't enjoy outnumbering people 10 to 1 because 1) it's boring and stupid and 2) it's the coward's way to win.

    Also: you need to learn the difference in "crying" and making fun of people who have to outnumber people to win fights.

    What was that saying from elementary school? Oh yeah. Sticks and stones.....you know the rest. It's fun to me and I'll be that coward. Feel better now that you think you hurt my feelings? Lol.
    Try saying that phrase irl to people getting bullied, then come back to us on that

    I was extensively bullied in HS, but it still is a wise lesson. We should try to fight bullying, but we should also be trying to improve resilience so that people can cope with bullying better. Life can be the worst bully of all, with cancer, divorce, accidents, deaths, etc. If we don't teach kids resilience, or we enable emotionally fragility, then we are failing them.

    Edited by Genomic on April 19, 2019 11:12AM
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    [sarcasm]
    I sometimes play football (soccer) in the local park.
    Went there the other day with three of my friends. Some guys there invited us to play a match against them. We declined because we knew they play at least as good as we do and we didn't want to risk defeat.
    Four elderly ladies sat on a bench nearby, knitting. We grabbed them by their arms and dragged them towards the football ground.
    "But we don't want to play football" they cried.
    "LMAO, you knew what to expect. Don't come to the park if you don't want to play football" we laughed.
    In the end we won 31:0 as they collapsed on the ground from exhaustion.
    "Noobs!!!" we shouted at them, making obscene gestures, "We enjoy drinking your salty tears!".
    Man that felt good!
    [/sarcasm]
    Edited by Ufretin on April 19, 2019 11:47AM
  • Reistr_the_Unbroken
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    Genomic wrote: »
    Jeremy wrote: »
    Jeremy wrote: »
    Jeremy wrote: »
    Jamdarius wrote: »
    I know you guys enjoy PvP a lot however during the event my dear AD would you mind staying out of dailys zone in Cheydinhal and let players enjoy the event?
    I know i know its PvP zone you should get your a$$ wiped, L2P QQ ... whatever. But what kind of *** u have to be to just go for easy kill vs PvE players?!

    Really I never had such issues years back during events and now it seems some stupid kiddos joined ESO community and are wrecking event for most of players.
    Dear ZOS this week 3 event is just lame and I cannot say I enjoy it.

    Sadly a lot of PvPers are made up of mindless hoards who just run around in zergs attacking anything that moves. For some reason they think it's satisfying to outnumber someone a gazillion to 1 and then beat them into the ground like packs of savage dogs. I don't get it either. It's kind of pathetic to be honest. And the only reason they enjoy it is because they are trolls who derive some kind of sadistic pleasure at the thought they are killing something controlled by an actual person and causing them grief. It's the only explanation. Because there is certainly nothing else they could enjoy about such a dull one-sided contest.

    Because it's fun and because I can. And there's nothing you can do to stop it. Don't like it? Don't go to Cyrodiil.

    Yeah, it's just so much "fun" to instantly gank some poor guy trying to do his quest with 10 other people. Such a blast let me tell you...

    I wonder if you would think it's so much fun if it happened to you? If you ever want to find out, let me know. I can arrange to have a small army slaughter you while you are alone so you can experience some of that fun you are talking about.

    It is. And I have. Multiple times. Only difference between me and you is that I suck it up and adapt and go into Cyrodiil knowing that is what I need to expect. Instead of coming to the forums crying to Zos about the big bad pvpers playing by the rules Zos implemented.

    Nah, the difference between me and you is I don't enjoy outnumbering people 10 to 1 because 1) it's boring and stupid and 2) it's the coward's way to win.

    Also: you need to learn the difference in "crying" and making fun of people who have to outnumber people to win fights.

    What was that saying from elementary school? Oh yeah. Sticks and stones.....you know the rest. It's fun to me and I'll be that coward. Feel better now that you think you hurt my feelings? Lol.
    Try saying that phrase irl to people getting bullied, then come back to us on that

    I was extensively bullied in HS, but it still is a wise lesson. We should try to fight bullying, but we should also be trying to improve resilience so that people can cope with bullying better. Life can be the worst bully of all, with cancer, divorce, accidents, deaths, etc.
    That’s true- and improving schools, cause I can say that my school did kind of a bad job trying to stop it.
    But yeah, it really can be.
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