If you wear full sets that fit your playstyle and have a consistent rotation that isn't overly complicated/wasteful most content in this game will be doable especially if you have around 300+ CP. In my opinion ESO is probably the best mmo for casuals, while still offering difficult content for those who want it.

Excaltic wrote: »

- Trials = Content not meant for casual players / pug groups ==> Too difficult to get rewards / gear = NO REASON TO PLAY (READ: PAY FOR) OR RETURN TO THIS GAME

Normal trials are meant for casual players and are very puggable. You can rally up a group in zone chat and clear pretty much every normal trial. You don't even need to be above 300CP to clear normal trials.

Excaltic wrote: »

- DLC dungeon's = (Veteran) Content not meant for casual players / pug groups ==> Too difficult to get rewards / gear = NO REASON TO PLAY (READ: PAY FOR) OR RETURN TO THIS GAME

Normal DLC dungeons can be cleared by casuals and pugs. Normal DLC dungeons can be beaten just by light attacking your way through the dungeons or by spamming a single skill. But you are correct in that veteran content is not made for casuals, it is designed to give players a challenge. However, not being able to complete veteran content doesn't deprive you from completing the content itself. Normal Fungal Grotto and Veteran Fungal grotto are the same exact dungeon, with the same lore, the same quest, the same bosses, and the same enemies. Pretty much the only difference is that in veteran the enemies hit harder, have more health, and maybe have an additional mechanic or two. But it is the same dungeon, it's just that one is designed for more of a challenge. Again: Same content, one just hits harder.

Excaltic wrote: »

DPS difference between casual gamers (just spamming some dots & attacks) and addicts with macro-rotations/animation cancelling is about a 500% difference in DPS, which is absurd and completely unbalanced = NO REASON TO PLAY (READ: PAY FOR) OR RETURN TO THIS GAME

So the only two categories which gamers can fall under are "Casuals" and "Addicts"? Interesting. The difference in DPS is not related to game balance, but rather experience. If someone is only going to spam light attacks and wear blue gear they will simply not do as much DPS as someone who has spent the time to theorycraft and mathematically tune their build and rotation to get the highest DPS. That would be like arguing that soccer is unbalanced because a casual soccer player can't run as fast or get as many goals as someone who is more experienced who has practiced. Higher skill and experience will result in higher results, that's just a fact in life.

Excaltic wrote: »

Ongoing nerfs only harm the casual gamers, not the addicts who just change their macro-rotation a little.

Again with the "addicts"? Nerfing a skill affects anyone who uses that skill whether they are casual or more experienced. However, what they do with those changes, how they handle them, and how they adapt is up to the player.

Excaltic wrote: »

Please start making ESO a great game for casual gamers instead of destroying it for them Zenimax.

Stop listening to demands of the "pro's" and start thinking about casuals which keep on leaving the game like this... and will lead to the closing of ESO servers in the end...

ESO is already one of, if not the, most casual-friendly MMOs on the market. The vast majority of content is casual-friendly: Overland zones, quests, public dungeons, delves, normal dungeons, normal trials, normal arenas, Cyrodiil, battlegrounds, housing, crafting, fishing, roleplaying, all of those things can be done by casuals. The only things which might be more challenging for them are veteran modes of the normal content. But again: It is the SAME content, it's just that one hits harder. Normal Fungal Grotto is the same dungeon as veteran Fungal Grotto. Normal Cloudrest +3 is the same content as Veteran Cloudrest +3. The only difference is that one version hits harder, enemies have more health, and maybe has an additional mechanic or two. But the point is that you can still travel into the dungeon/trial and experience the content (quest, lore, enemies, bosses, gear, etc).

ESO is extremely casual-friendly and offers a massive amount of content for players who want to play it casually. It also offers more difficult content for other players who wish to challenge themselves. But the difficult content is the same as the normal content, so casual players are not missing out on the content itself. Even a lot of veteran content is casual-friendly. Most non-dlc veteran dungeons/trials can be beaten by players with 20k DPS, and 20k DPS is not that difficult to reach.

Clickbait title suggests a thread covering the nerfs to all classes coming in the Elsweyr patch. Post only QQs about the poor already existing state of magicka nightblade in pvp and rants about game being unfriendly to casuals. Magicka nightblade does need love in pvp, but the post only makes several different claims without a coherent point. Made me laugh at least.

P.S. Game is already very casual friendly. Most casual friendly MMO on the market, I'd bet money on it. I play less than 8 hours a week and I can pull 50k+ self buffed dps in pve and hold my own in pvp.

yup i think the devs are catering way too much to the top 1% literally those are probably statistic of actual players that finish/engage in that content, the way ffxiv published raid numbers and USA not even .8% of players even tried raiding

all these changes, additional content, is like theyve been listening to an echo chamber of useless information from people who think they know whats best for the game. i think the class rep system is a mistake, just pigeon holes builds and doesnt offer variety/ diversity in builds

and all true about all the new content being veteran / high end garbage nobody touches, its content nobody wants, if you end up in a DLC dungeon the tank and healer immediately quit , and you the dps whose been sitting there 1 hour for the chance at a dungeon, gets to slog through the worst fight design possible

its just bad. like the reason people come to ESO isnt tryhard PVE content , DPS meters, etc, i guarantee they know this, they have their own statistics and know not even 1% of their playerbase engages in the hard mode content

if you want a legit break down of what sustains a game, look at ffxiv because they are transparent with their statistics on a yearly basis, and make changes accordingly. ZOS on the other hand are tight lipped and do nothing/say nothing regarding their cash shop/ content pipeline, etc. they have a level of hubris something like ffxiv lost when they re-booted the game
there's no glorifying this game in all its flaws, it should be rebooted, because its at a point now they are trying to make it a game it was never meant to be. even from a framework standpoint, its a mess. lets hope for e3 they announce some rework/retooling, and extensive overhauls because this is bad

also when it comes to ffxiv they are also transparent as devs in regards to content direction/ pipeline for new content, why they are making changes etc. zos on the other hand are just "hurr you like dragons right?!" theres a clear lack of competency when it comes to zos, they can barely keep the lights on

Mmmmmmm

Nightblade tears...

...so salty.

By typing here what you think makes a good class or breaks it, you have just proven that you have absolutely no idea how this game and combat in this game works.

"you are nerfing my class, and I am casual, therefore you are nerfing casuals"
is SUCH a self centered entitled approach.

I'd be lying if i said removing weaving and making DPS more about game knowledge rather than reflex timing wouldn't make me happy. But it's definitely a unique combat system, and it's not *THAT* hard to learn. Even just doing light attacks between your skills without animation canceling isn't that hard, and once you get into the rhythm of it it's fun.

You have to keep in mind that nightblades made up about 20-30% of the classes found in raids. none below 20%. then classes like warden didn't have almost any above 10% usage. This'll encourage people to try new characters, but it's not going to ruin them. Except for pvp, where they were already a lost case and idk why people insist on continuing to play them if they hate playing them so much.

Hard content shouldn’t be completed unless you’re good, that’s the point. If you don’t want to put any effort into anything, run normal dungeons and normal trials.

It takes all of 10 minutes messing around on a dummy to figure out the basics of animation cancelling and weaving, so if you can’t be bothered to learn that, why should anything be catered to that level of apathy?

Reverb wrote: »

Nightblade tears, disguised as advocating for new and casual players. Nice twist.

Nightblade was the second biggest new player carry in the game anyways, after petsorcs.

You said reflecting on ALL the class skills, these are just NB class skills. But then it seems like stamblades especially feel the world revolves around them lol. 10/10 post, will never not be funny watching stamblades cry about nerfs.