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No free character slot if you've purchased one?

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It was posted on another thread that only those who have never purchased a character slot will get one for free with Elsweyr, but no source was listed other than the PTS. Can anyone confirm if this is true/false?
  • Sylvermynx
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    Hmm. Dunno. If that's a truth, I'm screwed on both accounts. *shrug* Just means I'll have to buy one more for each.

    Link to thread plox?
  • JadeCoin
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    Thread here
    Edited by JadeCoin on April 16, 2019 12:31AM
  • Sylvermynx
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    Thanks!
  • jaws343
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    This really needs to be addressed by Zos. What sense does it make to penalize players who actually paid money for something.
  • JadeCoin
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    I'm hoping it will turn out to be some kind of misunderstanding, because it seems improbable to me. What could the reasoning possibly be behind the decision, if it were true? Something like: players who have invested in more than eight characters have shown their willingness to buy slots, so they will almost certainly be willing to purchase the necromancer and the character slot? Whereas players who haven't invested in more than eight characters are unlikely to invest in the slot or the necromancer unless they get the slot for free? That would be... well, weirdly convoluted and underhanded at the same time. Hopefully it's just some early misinformation, because that at least would make sense.
  • Ertosi
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    It was easy to test on the PTS. There were 3 additional slots, but if you had ever purchased one before, you had to buy all 3.

    Back during ZOS's first Season of the Dragon twitch stream in March, they stated there would be 1 free character slot for everyone and an undecided number of additional slots. Looks like you only get that free slot if you've never purchased any.

    "1 free character slot for everyone" should mean for everyone, including those who have supported the game by buying them in the past. Hopefully they just overlooked this and will correct it. If not, it feels like further milking those who have actively supported the game.
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  • Kalik_Gold
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    Sounds like what happened when I bought the dog pet and Sorrel horse. They made them free... basically they are going to give you one free slot but since you already used the space for that slot. Poof it’s gone.
    Main Character:
    Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar, the Vestige

    PvP Pure-class:
    Goliath of Hammerfell a Redguard Dragonknight
    Jux Blackheart a Redguard Nightblade
    Aurik Siet'ka a Redguard Necromancer
    Cacique the Sage of Ius a Redguard Warden
    Kaotik Von Dae'mon a Redguard* Sorcerer

    PvP: Subclassed or Specialty
    Movárth Piquine a Nord Vampiric Necromancer (Tank)
    Voa a Priest of Sep a Redguard* Necromancer (Healer)
    Tsar af-Bomba a Redguard Vampiric Nightblade (Bomber)
    Two-Big-Horns an Argonian Arcanist /Sorcerer
    Uri Ice-Heart the Twin a Nord Vampiric Warden (Ice-Theme)

    PvE:
    Cinan Tharn an Imperial Dragonknight (Tank)
    Herzog Zwei the Genesis an Akavari* Templar (Healer)
    Bates Vesuius of Dawnstar an Redguard** Dragonknight (Raid Damage) --- Name change needed

    PvE: Specialty
    Tyrus Septim an Imperial Sorcerer (Dungeon Damage)
    Tav'i at-Shinji a Redguard** Warden (Arenas)
    Lucky Hunch the Gambler - a Redguard Nightblade (Thief)

    Leveling...
    Styx of Akatosh a Goblin*** Arcanist --- Race change needed
    Zenovia at-Tura a Redguard** Lycan Sorcerer
    Yesi af-Kalik a Redguard Templar
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    Passives of another race used:
    *Breton
    **Imperial
    ***Argonian




    __________________________Backstories:_________________________

    Ras Kalik the Vestige, a renown Redguard warrior; He has been blessed to save Tamriel from Molag Bal’s destructive Planemeld while reuniting the Five Companions. His further accomplishments after defeating Molag Bal, has been to stop the destruction of Morrowind, the Clockwork City, return order to the isle of Summerset and create a new king in Wrothgar and a queen in Elsywer. These events have made him a living legend and continue to lead him into new adventures throughout Tamriel, as well as into the hearts of many ladies including the Elf Queen, Aryenn. Over many years of adventurous travels, Ras Kalik had become a loner, until he re-visited his homeland of Alik'r.

    Alik'r and it's cities were overrun by the undead Ra-Netu and therefore he made an allegiance with Alik'r's own Ash'abah tribe. These Ash'abah with his help, cleansed the city of Sentinel in Alik'r desert and it's surrounding areas of the undead brought to life by the Withered Hand. After rescuing Sentinel from the undead zombies, King Fahara’jad’s personal bodyguard the Goliath of Hammerfell, who was given this name by Imperials in the region; was asked to assist the tribe after learning of the defeat of the Withered Hand to the Ash'abah. Kalik promised Goliath he would task him with fighting living enemies on the battlefield if he so desired. Goliath being a Yokudan warrior wields a massive sword in respect to the Ansei, a gift given by the Imperial, Cinan Tharn. Not many soldiers are able to wield double two handed weapons, but Goliath loves to get up and personal in a fight, so he also carries a giant maul, both weapons laced with magical flames.

    Jux Blackheart is a master thief that masquerades as a Bard at the Sisters of the Sands inn, with his younger sidekick Lucky Hunch for pilfering and gambling during this time. Jux was known to infiltrate any towns bank vault he came across and even delved into Ayelid ruins without detection. Kalik can vividly recall the night he met the famed thief. Jux found himself rummaging thru a slightly inebriated Kalik’s pocket for too long, on a full-mooned night and because of his greed and the glimmer of his golden armor in the moonlight. He lost his left pinky fingertip as a lesson! But in return, he gained a new friend, as it was his first time since a child being caught red-handed...

    Upon arrival back in the Alik'r after many moons of adventuring, Ras Kalik ventures to Bergama. Visiting The Winking Jackal, he runs into Jux Blackheart, who introduces him to the coin game Crowns vs Forebearers (Heads vs Tails) and Golden Dwemer (RBG).... Jux constantly takes gold from the unfortunate thru theft or gambling, his biggest gambling victim is actually his partner in crime known as Lucky Hunch the Gambler. Lucky doesn't mind losing any gold coins to Jux... as Jux saved him from Altmer slavers in Summerset, by stealing a key and sending him on a boat to the mainland years prior. Lucky spent years in slavery with Khajiits in Summerset and picked up the art of subterfuge, using illusion magic disguises and stealing there.

    Kaotik Von’Daemon an outcast, and a half-caste between a Breton mother and a Redguard father. Kaotik become a pariah due to his conjuration of Daedra pets. He was taught healing magic during his childhood years by his Breton mother. His father due to Redguard customs exiled him from the desert, sending him by wagon caravan to be a soldier in the war in Cyrodiil. He happened to meet Kalik while traveling from Alik'r, during this long caravan ride the caravan he was in was ambushed in Bangkorai by a group of bandits. Kalik by chance was also traveling thru this area on his Auridon Warhorse (which was bestowed to him by his friend, Darien Gautier). During this ambush, Kalik was able to rescue five hostages from the bandits. Kaotik was the first rescued, and Ras Kalik also recruited him to be in the Ash'abah tribe. These core Ash'abah tribesmen may never be seen together in travel as they partake in their own adventures but they always know what each other is doing; as they frequent a hideout in northern Bankorai. Their hideout an old Orc castle ruin, is kept watch by Nuzhimeh and she passes messages written between them, and frequently they also enjoy her company and her bed.

    The other men rescued were a Dunmer banker, an Imperial mercenary and two other soldiers, an Imperial and a Breton Knight, stating proudly he was an Akavir descendent. One of the Imperials, Cinan, claimed to be related to Abnur Tharn the Battlemage of the Imperial Elder Council (One of Ras Kalik's mentors in the Five Companions). Cinan Tharn was really Abnur's drunkard treasure hunting illegitimate son. He was caught smuggling artifacts out of the Ayleid ruins in Cyrodiil and the elder of the two Imperials was Tyrus Septim a retired Imperial navy battle-mage (now a Lycan mercenary living in the city of Rimmen) and guard to the Tharn family. As much as Abnur Tharn hated his half-sister Euraxia, he dislikes his bas†ard son Cinan more. Tyrus now a ruffian and privateer had been paid by Abnur Tharn to watch over Cinan as much as possible. Cinan Tharn a drunkard, loves to drink at least a quarter barrel of Nord mead before he raids various delves and dungeons for relics to sell on the black market. Cinan also plans to one day, run an illegal gambling ring... which he thinks will net him more gold for his wares.

    The Dunmer captive shackled to the Imperials looked familiar to Kalik from his time in Morrowind.... and he recognized him as Tythis Andromo a House Telvanni slave-owner and banker from Vvardenfell. During a rough interrogation to Tythis, Ras Kalik learnt why the bandits accosted him. The racist Dunmer was providing slaves as soldiers for the Three Banner War. The bandits were trying to negotiate a lucrative ransom for Andromo and the Imperials.... Kalik did not need any of this gold and he could never set Tythis free as he did with the two Imperial soldiers. His past involvement with slavery and war crimes, made Kalik's blood boil. He chose not to execute Tythis, as he figured the worse punishment for this former rich and opulent slave owner, is to now be an imprisoned servant for Ras Kalik and the tribe.

    Herzog Zwei the Genesis a reknown Imperial/Akavirri battle-mage. His roots going back to Akavir through his mother’s bloodline. (His mother is descended from the Akaviri, through Versidue-Shae, and his Imperial father met her in Hakoshae, while traveling) Herzog earned the nickname "the Genesis" from his father as a child, as he was his mother's first born child, and last, as she tragically died in child-birth.

    Herzog was seeking to purchase an artifact from Cinan Tharn, before their capture and was meeting Tyrus while in Rimmen, who introduced him to Cinan. This artifact being the Ayelid artifact; the sword Sinweaver. After their rescue and the exchange of gold to Cinan for the sword he decided to slip away before Ras Kalik could question who he was, and why the Akavir descendant really wanted that sword. Herzog was headed to Nagastani — An Ayleid ruin in eastern Cyrodiil. He had read in scrolls that the Sword would give him magical powers to meet his mothers spirit, if he performed an Ayleid ritual at an old shrine hidden there. Equipped with the artifact sword, he was off to start his own adventure but Ras Kalik, did indeed notice the sword however and instead sent a letter to Jux Blackheart (whom also was interested in Ayleid treasures), to attempt to find Herzog and acquire the sword. (*Azani Blackheart in Elder Scroll's Oblivion is Jux's descendant some 747 years later)

    And so the Redguard, Imperial and Akaviri men parted ways ... While Ras Kalik went off to Elsweyr to encounter the latest threat to Tamriel, with Abnur Tharn and Sai Sahan - - DRAGONS!! Little did Ras Kalik know a few people were awaiting him in Senchal besides Sai. A necromancer survived his attack on the Withered Hand, while in Alik'r. The necromancer known as Auriek Siet'ka is also following him to the land of the Khajiits and Cacique the Sage of Ius a Shaman mystic who has become attuned spiritually with Tu'whacca (a Redguard God) and Ius (the Animal God), after being burned severely by the escaped dragons in Elsywer, is awaiting his arrival also. Aurik is a soldier of the Daggerfall Covenant that was introduced to necromancy while in the military, even though this magicka art is not spoken of openly by most of the Military leaders. He came to Alik'r and worked with the Withered Hand before Ras Kalik intervened on their plans. After the defeat of the Withered Hand, he aligned with the Worm Cult, and is constantly adapting and perfecting his necromantic arts.

    After his journey to Rimmen, Kalik heads south to Senchal, in the southern regions of Elyswer. This new adventure will also put him on a path to meet a strange Redguard man. The stranger which was infected with an untreated Peyrite disease and also was the exiled from the Order of the New Moon cult, due to his sickness. He originally joined the cult to worship Laatvulon, the green dragon, mistakenly thinking it was the Daedric prince Peyrite. This confused and suffering cultist is known as Tsar al-Bomba and he is on a path to spread the disease. He was originally infected in Orccrest while recruiting members there. Can Ras Kalik and the shaman Cacique cure this poor soul, only time will tell. Little does Tsar al-Bomba know, that his infection is tied to Vampirism, and eventually the desire for blood will take over his mind. Senchal also offers Kalik his latest love interest... Aeliah. Whom he fondly led thru battles with the Dragonguard.

    After the trek thru the heat, tropical and desert climate of Northern and Southern Elyswer, Ras Kalik heads north to the cold mountain range of Skyrim. His companion friend Lyris beckons for him with a letter sent by crow...

    Movárth Piquine - a former vampire hunter (now infected), within the Fighter's Guild (and a secretive necromancer) was in Skyrim working with the Morthaal Guard. On a patrol mission he was caught in Frewien's ice curse outside of Morthaal with the frozen undead. Movárth's vampiric infection kept him from becoming an undead minion to the curse. He was able to use necromantic ice-magic to encase himself safely until he was freed with Freiwen, when the Vestige Ras Kalik broke the curse.

    Uri Ice-Heart - brother of Urfon Ice-Heart. The twin sons of Atli and Oljourn Ice-Heart. The Ice-Heart family are originally from Markarth but now reside on the Jerall Mountain range near Cyrodiil, with their younger sister Araki. The twins had joined the Winterborn Reachmen while living in Markarth. Urfon pushed west to Orsinium with the Winterborn Clan, leaving his family behind. Uri stayed behind with his parents and sister to live in the family cabin for safety, avoiding the Vampire plague infiltrating the Reach. After news reaches him and he hears of Urfon's death... Uri leaves and heads home and is seeking vengeance. Meanwhile, his sister has also moved on to Windhelm to join the Fighter's guild. He will visit his sister, once before going to seek vengeance and she will craft him armor mixed with ice, called Stalhrim armor. Uri fearing death, after his brother's passing, falls victim to the convincing talk of Movárth at a Nordic tavern, and will also becomes a vampire.

    {time moves forward through the hour-glass}
    PS5/NA - Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar - Daggerfall Covenant
  • Sylvermynx
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    Agreed @Ertosi - but if for whatever reason it doesn't work that way in the end, I'll still buy the extra slots.... as I already have toons "made" for them in my mind.

    NOT necromancers....
  • JadeCoin
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    Ertosi wrote: »
    It was easy to test on the PTS. There were 3 additional slots, but if you had ever purchased one before, you had to buy all 3.

    Back during ZOS's first Season of the Dragon twitch stream in March, they stated there would be 1 free character slot for everyone and an undecided number of additional slots. Looks like you only get that free slot if you've never purchased any.

    "1 free character slot for everyone" should mean for everyone, including those who have supported the game by buying them in the past. Hopefully they just overlooked this and will correct it. If not, it feels like further milking those who have actively supported the game.

    Very strange indeed. Why then offer any free character slots to anyone? They didn't when the Warden was released. Don't get me wrong, I would like a free slot, but it makes no sense to offer them to some people and not others.
  • JadeCoin
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    Sylvermynx wrote: »
    Agreed @Ertosi - but if for whatever reason it doesn't work that way in the end, I'll still buy the extra slots.... as I already have toons "made" for them in my mind.

    NOT necromancers....

    I'm just the opposite. I have plenty of characters already, and lots of Tamriel to explore. A bunch of skyshards to find, too, since they're not on the map they just gave us haha! I'm on the fence about purchasing Elsweyr at this point. Just following things closely to decide if it's worth my money.
  • Sylvermynx
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    I've been waiting for Elsweyr forever. So yeah, done deal for me.Sure there's a lot of stuff left to do - but with mega ping, I can't do most of it, so new stuff is a benefit (even if I won't be able to do most of that either....) I already pre-ordered on my main account. I'll buy a physical edition for my second account. I'll have to wait to play until I get a stick from a friend with his install folder - I don't have 8 gigs of bw so I can download it. Satellite's a - marginal option, for when you live in the back of beyond....
  • jaws343
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    JadeCoin wrote: »
    Ertosi wrote: »
    It was easy to test on the PTS. There were 3 additional slots, but if you had ever purchased one before, you had to buy all 3.

    Back during ZOS's first Season of the Dragon twitch stream in March, they stated there would be 1 free character slot for everyone and an undecided number of additional slots. Looks like you only get that free slot if you've never purchased any.

    "1 free character slot for everyone" should mean for everyone, including those who have supported the game by buying them in the past. Hopefully they just overlooked this and will correct it. If not, it feels like further milking those who have actively supported the game.

    Very strange indeed. Why then offer any free character slots to anyone? They didn't when the Warden was released. Don't get me wrong, I would like a free slot, but it makes no sense to offer them to some people and not others.

    Fairly certain everyone got a free slot with the Warden.
  • JadeCoin
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    jaws343 wrote: »
    Fairly certain everyone got a free slot with the Warden.

    Really? I didn't. Lucky me I guess.
    Edited by JadeCoin on April 16, 2019 1:55AM
  • Sylvermynx
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    Eh, I didn't get a free slot with warden as I wasn't playing at the time.
  • Acrolas
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    Update 14 (Morrowind) added two additional character slots for purchase.
    signing off
  • jaws343
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    I am fairly certain we did. They were initally increasing the max toon limit by 2 to 14, and then we got 1 more.
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    jaws343 wrote: »
    and then we got 1 more.

    Another paid one, as part of the Leveling Rewards system in Update 17.
    signing off
  • disintegr8
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    Pretty sure Morrowind only increased the character limit without giving free slots. Maybe ZOS assumes that people who have bought extra slots will just buy more...
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  • ManwithBeard9
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    My lord the amount of just flat out wrong information being passed around. Rich said we would get 1 free slot, with additional ones to be determined.
  • Ertosi
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    disintegr8 wrote: »
    Pretty sure Morrowind only increased the character limit without giving free slots. Maybe ZOS assumes that people who have bought extra slots will just buy more...

    That is correct. I remember it distinctly because when Morrowind increased the cap to 15, it made it so you could have 3 characters of each class (3x5=15).

    It was why I was eagerly awaiting the news for how many new slots Elsweyr would bring. I was wondering if it would only be +2 slots like Morrowind, or +3 so we could still have 3 characters of each class. Ended up being +3 new slots Elsweyr, opposed to the lower +2 slots Morrowind brought.
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    https://i.imgur.com/TPscgS9.jpg to see major features of the last few years compared.
    https://i.imgur.com/X8qY0gP.jpg to see a detailed comparison of this year's Q1 to the last two Q1s.
    https://i.imgur.com/4z71cK8.jpg to see a detailed comparison of each years' first two quarters combined.
    https://i.imgur.com/jrHe5h8.jpg to see a projected comparison of the full years and what 2019's Q4 will need to catch up.
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  • Ertosi
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    My lord the amount of just flat out wrong information being passed around. Rich said we would get 1 free slot, with additional ones to be determined.

    Yah, that's what I said further up.

    And now that the PTS is released we now know the "additional ones to be determined" are 2, for a total number of 3. Problem is, Rich said everyone would get 1 free slot. He directly said that. Only now we find out that's not true. Only those that have never bought any character slots will get the free one. Anyone who has bought any will have to pay for all 3 to unlock them. Feel free to test it out in the PTS if you have any doubts.
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    Sir PriceStamblade Bow Ganker [Daedric Lord Slayer]
    MayaStamblade Speedster
    AhmedMagblade Bomber
    BalzarStamSorc Blitzer
    WinniePetSorc Thunder Mage
    TanksStamDK Tank
    MonaMagDK Fire Mage
    DawnHPDK
    BearlyStamden Tank
    IvanaMagden Ice Mage

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    No new crafting or game systems for 2019? "Season of the Dragon" would be better named "The Year of no New Major Features"
    https://i.imgur.com/TPscgS9.jpg to see major features of the last few years compared.
    https://i.imgur.com/X8qY0gP.jpg to see a detailed comparison of this year's Q1 to the last two Q1s.
    https://i.imgur.com/4z71cK8.jpg to see a detailed comparison of each years' first two quarters combined.
    https://i.imgur.com/jrHe5h8.jpg to see a projected comparison of the full years and what 2019's Q4 will need to catch up.
    Unsubbed January 15th, 2019 due to the lack of any new substantial features shown to be coming in 2019.
  • jaws343
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    Acrolas wrote: »
    jaws343 wrote: »
    and then we got 1 more.

    Another paid one, as part of the Leveling Rewards system in Update 17.

    Ah, that's right.
  • TheShadowScout
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    JadeCoin wrote: »
    It was posted on another thread that only those who have never purchased a character slot will get one for free with Elsweyr...
    Eh.
    I for one am entirely willing to put my money where my mouth is, so... no issues with having to buy new character slots. Altho since its happening with an expansion... which is paid for already... well, methinks it would a tad greedy looking to not offer one free with the expansion purchase, right?
  • Ydrisselle
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    jaws343 wrote: »
    This really needs to be addressed by Zos. What sense does it make to penalize players who actually paid money for something.

    It's the same with the bag and bank upgrade from the levelling rewards. If you bought one, you won't get one free.
  • Dark_Lord_Kuro
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    jaws343 wrote: »
    I am fairly certain we did. They were initally increasing the max toon limit by 2 to 14, and then we got 1 more.

    2 paid one in morowind
    1 paid one in Dragonbone whith the new leveling reward
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    Report it as a bug, folks. There's no way they would actually intend to charge people who have already purchased and not those who haven't. Too irrational even by Crown Store standards. Report report report.
  • code65536
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    It's also entirely possible that this is just a PTS bug...
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  • JadeCoin
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    code65536 wrote: »
    It's also entirely possible that this is just a PTS bug...

    Yes, I think that is the case. Simplest explanation.
  • FleetwoodSmack
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    Just make sure to /bug report it.
    Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies!
  • Ydrisselle
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    code65536 wrote: »
    It's also entirely possible that this is just a PTS bug...

    Those ones tend to appear on the live servers too :tongue:
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