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twilightwarrick
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Hi I don't think its fair , we cant change our race to whatever we chose, with the game tokens, after the latest patch, without a bloody 25 dollar dlc

most of us never asked for the race changes, well I certainly didn't, and I feel my choice is now a bit of let down after this update, be fair Zenermax/ Bethesda and stop

trying to make a buck off everything in the game, this really highlights their greed.
  • mairwen85
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    Another one?
  • Tan9oSuccka
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    Or you could stop chasing the meta?

    These changes really aren’t that significant.

    They went above and beyond with even granting free tokens.
  • VaranisArano
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    The text on the race change tokens could be clearer, because this is a matter of recurring confusion. It only applies to races you own.

    The base game only allows you to have certain races per Alliance.

    To gain more races, you need to buy the Adventurer Pack or the Imperial Upgrade.

    Without that, you only have the base game available, which is:

    Ebonheart Pact: Nord, Dunmer, Argonian
    Daggerfall Covenant: Breton, Orc, Redguard
    Aldmeri Dominion: Altmer, Bosmer, and Khajiit
    Edited by VaranisArano on February 26, 2019 9:44PM
  • alanmatillab16_ESO
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    FOTM reroller tears, almost as sweet as PvPer tears :smiley:

    Any race can be any class and use that class' abilities. Your characters are not "destroyed" or "unplayable", they are simply not at the top of a damage meter by virtue of simply being a certain meta choice.
  • MajBludd
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    Life isn't fair, read the fine print before you assume anything. Enjoy your pick of 2 races until you buy any race any alliance.
  • MartiniDaniels
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    mairwen85 wrote: »
    Another one?

    Another evidence of cash grab, what's wrong or bad in it? 0_o
    If you are happy to be ZO$'d don't tell everybody to be fanboy.
  • Seraphayel
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    If you ask nicely I can create another version with the race of your choice. But I assume you're either Altmer or Bosmer.

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    Aldmeri Dominion
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  • Beardimus
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    $25 DLC what?

    You have 3, free, tokens to re-choose between the original races you had available to you. Simple, and quite generous
    Xbox One | EU | EP
    Beardimus : VR16 Dunmer MagSorc [RIP MagDW 2015-2018]
    Emperor of Sotha Sil 02-2018 & Sheogorath 05-2019
    1st Emperor of Ravenwatch
    Alts - - for the Lolz
    Archimus : Bosmer Thief / Archer / Werewolf
    Orcimus : Fat drunk Orc battlefield 1st aider
    Scalimus - Argonian Sorc Healer / Pet master

    Fighting small scale with : The SAXON Guild
    Fighting with [PvP] : The Undaunted Wolves
    Trading Guilds : TradersOfNirn | FourSquareTraders

    Xbox One | NA | EP
    Bëardimus : L43 Dunmer Magsorc / BG
    Heals-With-Pets : VR16 Argonian Sorc PvP / BG Healer
    Nordimus : VR16 Stamsorc
    Beardimus le 13iem : L30 Dunmer Magsorc Icereach
  • Tasear
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    The text on the race change tokens could be clearer, because this is a matter of recurring confusion. It only applies to races you own.

    The base game only allows you to have certain races per Alliance.

    To gain more races, you need to buy the Adventurer Pack or the Imperial Upgrade.

    Without that, you only have the base game available, which is:

    Ebonheart Pact: Nord, Dunmer, Argonian
    Daggerfall Covenant: Breton, Orc, Redguard
    Aldmeri Dominion: Altmer, Bosmer, and Khajiit

    Imperial upgrade only offers imperial
  • kmcaj
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    Yes it is blatant cash grab under the guise of a free gift. I am pretty annoyed with this too.
  • Juju_beans
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    Any race, any alliance is not free.

    You don't need to buy the DLC.
    You just need to remember that you can only change your race to another one within the same alliance.
  • Acrolas
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    signing off
  • zergbase_ESO
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    Hi I don't think its fair , we cant change our race to whatever we chose, with the game tokens, after the latest patch, without a bloody 25 dollar dlc

    most of us never asked for the race changes, well I certainly didn't, and I feel my choice is now a bit of let down after this update, be fair Zenermax/ Bethesda and stop

    trying to make a buck off everything in the game, this really highlights their greed.

    Shh. IT spoke. Ignore it and it will vanish away. Also.

    It's an MMO. Changes are going happen regardless. Like every mmo bad and good happens.
  • eso_lags
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    FOTM reroller tears, almost as sweet as PvPer tears :smiley:

    Any race can be any class and use that class' abilities. Your characters are not "destroyed" or "unplayable", they are simply not at the top of a damage meter by virtue of simply being a certain meta choice.

    Cringey role player tears are nice too, wouldn't you agree?
  • twilightwarrick
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    kmcaj wrote: »
    Yes it is blatant cash grab under the guise of a free gift. I am pretty annoyed with this too.

    exactly ,they knew dam well many people would want to swap races, outside their alliance, well done zos
  • MartiniDaniels
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    eso_lags wrote: »
    FOTM reroller tears, almost as sweet as PvPer tears :smiley:

    Any race can be any class and use that class' abilities. Your characters are not "destroyed" or "unplayable", they are simply not at the top of a damage meter by virtue of simply being a certain meta choice.

    Cringey role player tears are nice too, wouldn't you agree?

    Lol, whole race was re-purposed against the lore from smooth criminals to ACAB guards, and they dare to tell about tears etc.. all this situation is cashgrab and ignorance.. it's not the end of the world, but when some people tell that this is ok.. ok, next month ZOS will increase prices on crowns/ESO+/chapters, those people will be happy too.
  • Androconium
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    For some reason I thought that the Digital Imperial Upgrade (pre-nerfing) provided the Any Race - Any alliance option.
    Maybe I dreamt it.

    Anyway, after SEEING THE TRUTH, I used two tokens to revise the appearance of two chars.
    So I got some use out of them.
  • eso_lags
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    eso_lags wrote: »
    FOTM reroller tears, almost as sweet as PvPer tears :smiley:

    Any race can be any class and use that class' abilities. Your characters are not "destroyed" or "unplayable", they are simply not at the top of a damage meter by virtue of simply being a certain meta choice.

    Cringey role player tears are nice too, wouldn't you agree?

    Lol, whole race was re-purposed against the lore from smooth criminals to ACAB guards, and they dare to tell about tears etc.. all this situation is cashgrab and ignorance.. it's not the end of the world, but when some people tell that this is ok.. ok, next month ZOS will increase prices on crowns/ESO+/chapters, those people will be happy too.

    Pretty much. Some people dont mind being walked on, some people do. For some people they are blinded by their love for zos and the game. I love zos and the game too, but what I do in this game has been gutted and ruined. I try to hold zos to even a minimal standard and they still fail.

    When it comes to making a beautiful game they do a great job, amazing combat system, etc. But communication? Shady business practices? And maintenance of severe problems in that game? They fail and I dont think people should just ignore it because it may not impact what they do in the same game. Or because they may like some of the developers.. I get it I do too.. But when some major issue does reach what those people do we will certainly hear from them about it.
  • RusevCrush
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    Race change tokens have always been misleading. This is not new.
  • therift
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    I always thought Race Change Tokens permitted one to change a race among the races one owns.

    I never thought they provided free content.
  • Bouldercleave
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    Hi I don't think its fair , we cant change our race to whatever we chose, with the game tokens, after the latest patch, without a bloody 25 dollar dlc

    most of us never asked for the race changes, well I certainly didn't, and I feel my choice is now a bit of let down after this update, be fair Zenermax/ Bethesda and stop

    trying to make a buck off everything in the game, this really highlights their greed.

    Life's not fair. You even say in your OP that you didn't ask for one -which means you don't really even care.

    Stop stirring drama up on something that you don't even care about.
  • Bouldercleave
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    Tasear wrote: »
    The text on the race change tokens could be clearer, because this is a matter of recurring confusion. It only applies to races you own.

    The base game only allows you to have certain races per Alliance.

    To gain more races, you need to buy the Adventurer Pack or the Imperial Upgrade.

    Without that, you only have the base game available, which is:

    Ebonheart Pact: Nord, Dunmer, Argonian
    Daggerfall Covenant: Breton, Orc, Redguard
    Aldmeri Dominion: Altmer, Bosmer, and Khajiit

    Imperial upgrade only offers imperial

    Did they change it? It has always offered any race any alliance.

    EDIT: Just verified that the Imperial Edition came with the Explorer pack which included ARAA.




    Edited by Bouldercleave on February 26, 2019 10:57PM
  • kmcaj
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    Hi I don't think its fair , we cant change our race to whatever we chose, with the game tokens, after the latest patch, without a bloody 25 dollar dlc

    most of us never asked for the race changes, well I certainly didn't, and I feel my choice is now a bit of let down after this update, be fair Zenermax/ Bethesda and stop

    trying to make a buck off everything in the game, this really highlights their greed.

    Life's not fair. You even say in your OP that you didn't ask for one -which means you don't really even care.

    Stop stirring drama up on something that you don't even care about.

    You stop. OP has every right to voice his complaint when getting ripped off.
  • Bouldercleave
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    kmcaj wrote: »
    Hi I don't think its fair , we cant change our race to whatever we chose, with the game tokens, after the latest patch, without a bloody 25 dollar dlc

    most of us never asked for the race changes, well I certainly didn't, and I feel my choice is now a bit of let down after this update, be fair Zenermax/ Bethesda and stop

    trying to make a buck off everything in the game, this really highlights their greed.

    Life's not fair. You even say in your OP that you didn't ask for one -which means you don't really even care.

    Stop stirring drama up on something that you don't even care about.

    You stop. OP has every right to voice his complaint when getting ripped off.

    He didn't get ripped off. YOU didn't get ripped off. No one got ripped off. Just because you don't agree with how it works doesn't make it wrong.

  • kmcaj
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    Because you can't see how this issue can financially impact some players doesn't make you right. Glad you are happy with everything. Some of us are clearly not.
  • Bouldercleave
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    kmcaj wrote: »
    Because you can't see how this issue can financially impact some players doesn't make you right. Glad you are happy with everything. Some of us are clearly not.

    How does it financially impact you? You don't HAVE to change your race. You yourself have said you don't care about questing, reading, lore, etc. Just grind out a new character. It takes a couple of hours to get to 50 and move on.
  • BattleAxe
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    3 free tokens and still you want more free stuff. Let me ask this. Why did you pick the race you picked when you first made the character?

    Im sorry but this is what I think a lot of people sound like now
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuYeHPFR3f0
    Edited by BattleAxe on February 26, 2019 11:10PM
  • kmcaj
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    It's going to cost whatever the upgrade costs. That's the financial cost. You go grind out a character. I'll stay here and voice my complaints about this free gift rip off.
  • kmcaj
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    BattleAxe wrote: »
    3 free tokens and still you want more free stuff. Let me ask this. Why did you pick the race you picked when you first made the character?

    Im sorry but this is what I think a lot of people sound like now
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuYeHPFR3f0

    Who cares?
  • MartiniDaniels
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    kmcaj wrote: »
    Because you can't see how this issue can financially impact some players doesn't make you right. Glad you are happy with everything. Some of us are clearly not.

    How does it financially impact you? You don't HAVE to change your race. You yourself have said you don't care about questing, reading, lore, etc. Just grind out a new character. It takes a couple of hours to get to 50 and move on.

    Omg, fact that somebody prepared ton of master writs and then during 2x event managed to exploit to lvl 50 in few hours doesn't mean that everybody can do it. Actually it's ~ 10 hours of heavy and tiresome grind to get from lvl 3 to lvl 50 with dolmens/craglorn/random dailies etc, also you need character slot which is not cheap at all. And of course you need to grind undaunted/mages/psijic/fighters/skill lines/ all morphs to 4 etc etc etc, it's huge ton of time and work.
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