Pretext wrote: »

I somewhat agree, but there are many easymode features as well. I only hope they do not take over the game.

With anything other than the lowest common denominator getting gutted and nerfed, they already are.

This is a game for people who like to casually go through easy quests.

Yankee wrote: »

Gohlar wrote: »

This is a game for people who like to casually go through easy quests.

Then you will see some QQ when they get to a certain level 40 and also a certain level 50 solo quest.

Oh they are already QQing for Doshia and all the Guild Quests. Or any content that is "too hard"

I do believe ESO is very 'casual' friendly. They go even more in that direction, then starts loosing long-term appeal. It is just about right for me p[ersonally, easy enough, but not a facepalm like other games have become.

OP, I understand what you're trying to say, but I feel you're projecting massively here. A key part of your argument is that MMOs are huge time syncs and thus you cannot play them and also have a Real Life. Except that most people to do just that, they play around their Real Life responsibilities, families lives and hobbies.

You talk about another addiction: smoking. I'd like to use a similar example to help highlight something for you. An alcoholic often cannot understand how people can have just one drink. Their relationship with alcohol is broken so when they look at social drinkers, it can possibly take a lot to fathom that casual association with drinking.

Alcohol can and does ruin lives, as can MMO gaming. I put it to you that your relationship with MMOs is similarly broken and you cannot understand that people can pick and choose how to play. They can have a casual relationship with this form of escapism that perhaps you never can have again.

This game reminds you of your addiction and as such you should run as far away from it as possible. You've done a great thing by moving on with your life, please don't jeopardise all of that.

WyeVxndzz wrote: »

I agree with the "there is progress" and "have work/life/game balance" sentiments.
I play WoW, and have for years, and I've watched it become a button-mashers-gimmie-reward game.

To be fair to WoW, that's only on the low end of the skill curve. The game has some deep and difficult content with heroic raiding. What WoW does well is appeal to a wide audience and multiple styles of play.

I understand we all have differing opinions, but I hope this thread is still available for me to view in even just 3 months after official launch. I think they are going to see a lot of blowback due to the general player-unfriendly nature of this game compared to modern games, and it's going to make all the people who are invested in this game as a means to turn profit demand adjustments.

It's okay to have differing opinions, but in the business world, it's about having as many people play your game as possible. I think this game is very good at serving a specific demographic, but if they want larger monetary success (which is the core focus of any business venture), they will have to do more than open a cash shop in a P2P before it is even officially launched. They will need to make the game more accessible. This game is missing a lot of handholding features modern players have come to expect, and while it is admirable in a way to remove them to try and encourage players to take their time and figure thinks out for themselves more, and get more invested in the world as a result, I don't think it will actually have that effect. I think most people are just going to play for a little while and then leave. There are far more games on the market than when games like this used to get released. People want to run through a theme park, go "cool!", and then move on to the next game to repeat the process. I have said it a few times already in this thread, but I will repeat myself, I think this game takes too long to provide what the average modern gamer expects. We can argue a lot of things, but when it comes down to business (which is what game direction is unfortunately dictated by), it does not matter what we think. They will steer the ship in the direction of the money once they realize their mistake, because right now this game is sailing in the completely opposite direction.

A lot of what this game tries to do, it looks good on paper, but once the masses get into this game, it will very quickly become painfully obvious how many severe mistakes they made in development.

Again, not because the game is bad, but because the timing is all wrong.

I do not envy the team that made this very much at all right now. I think the next few months they spend working on this game will be very, very rough on them. I have had pieces of life where I obsessed over creating something as a labor of love, only to present it to people and be told it was garbage and that I needed to start over and do the same thing, only differently. It does not feel good, but I think that is the same message this development team is going to be receiving in the near future.

Keep your grubby, lazy paws off my one and only MMO that isn't a cakewalk. Please, and thank you.

Nobody will probably read this, but they could make is so that every campaign had their own full area of the world (including all three of the faction PvE areas). This would include the full world PvP and would make things more interesting for those that want it while those that don't can stick to the plain PvE zones.

No layering in these worlds, just a cap for each area with adjustments depending on the opposing team and current numbers etc etc.

I completely disagree. I have almost no experience with MMOs. I have little interest in PVP, though maybe I'll check it out from time to time. Maybe the OP has a different outlook on this game and that is the reason for differing views.

I am a huge Elder Scrolls fan... my biggest draw to them was I could play whenever I want, however I want, as often as I want. In fact, despite having put around 500 hours collectively into the last three Elder Scroll games, I have never completed the main story line of any of them. I start playing, get sucked into the plethora of side stuff, go play something else, quit playing for months or years, decide I need a new character and start over and never finish.

I've always shied away from MMOs despite being a geek because everyone I've known who plays them plays them incessantly. They can't go out an do x because that's when their guild is raiding in wow. All they can talk about is y because it just released a new expansion. When a game is all you can do or talk about it's not a game anymore, it's more like a job. And that's what has always kept me away from MMOs. In that regard I see the OP's point. If it sucks away your life it's not a game and it's not fun.

But I haven't felt that way at all about ESO. I was in the last several betas and for one of them I only played for a couple hours. I already missed a couple days of the early access. And it doesn't bother me. I don't feel like I have to keep up with anyone else. I feel like I just do my own thing on my own time. And that is what a good game is supposed to be - an enjoyable way to spend your leisure time.

Why did someone make a thread about a questing game being hardcore?

ESO does questing well, don't get me wrong, but this is absolutely an easy, modern, casual friendly game. This is a beginner level mmo, by design.

It's pretty clear from the walls of text and the followup "I'm gonna want to read this again in 3 months" post and pointless bump all this is just narcissism. Nothing to see here, move on.