all pvp should be non-cp?

russelmmendoza · February 2019

I think this should seperate the pvp and pve crowd.
Lots of power creep is introduce by cp, remove it entirely from pvp.
and keep cp for pve areas.
removing cp from pvp in cyro would also help in the lag problem there.
Less calculations is needed less lag produce.
or am I totally off on this one?
no hating please, I'm just asking.

AzraelKrieg · February 2019

Yes, all PvP should be non-CP.

ChunkyCat · February 2019

CP should be non-PvP

russelmmendoza · February 2019

PVP SHOULD BE NON-CP.

Meaning all pvp areas would not use the cp system.
Leave the cp system for pve.

Should help a bit I think, in pvp areas.

Mr_Walker · February 2019

If only there were a campaign I could play that CP was disabled in....

AlienatedGoat · February 2019

All PvP should be non-ESO.

russelmmendoza · February 2019

Mr_Walker wrote: »

If only there were a campaign I could play that CP was disabled in....

Remove cp system from all campaign is what I'm trying to say.

MajBludd · February 2019

Why?

frostz417 · February 2019

No

VaranisArano · February 2019

No thanks.

Having tried both, I prefer No CP in Battlegrounds, but definitely prefer CP in Cyrodiil.

What is it with people and asking for gameplay modes and playstyles they don't like to be removed lately?

MartiniDaniels · February 2019

I think it's better to remove it. Basically you can't use same toon both for PVP and PVE because of those PVP-specific CP points.. and there will be much less broken exploiting builds. I mean you will never see some crazy sh*t like 10 people can't kill one for a 30 seconds in BG.
And proc sets should be nerfed accordingly.

Vapirko · February 2019

MartiniDaniels wrote: »

I think it's better to remove it. Basically you can't use same toon both for PVP and PVE because of those PVP-specific CP points.. and there will be much less broken exploiting builds. I mean you will never see some crazy sh*t like 10 people can't kill one for a 30 seconds in BG.
And proc sets should be nerfed accordingly.

Ahhh there’s no CP in BGs lol. BGs is a mess all on its own. Also you currently have Sotha and BGs for no CP. I personally like the change of pace having both CP and no CP. I cannot understand why people who don’t like CP keep bitching about it instead of just going to a no CP environment. And I say this as someone who wouldn’t miss a beat if they did remove CP from PvP. I just happen to like both, and as someone who plays both I find them equally unbalanced in different ways.

Juju_beans · February 2019

russelmmendoza wrote: »

Mr_Walker wrote: »

If only there were a campaign I could play that CP was disabled in....

Remove cp system from all campaign is what I'm trying to say.

Why ? There's choices in pvp. If you don't want to play with CP then join a no CP campaign.

Gilvoth · February 2019

we had this discussion a long time ago, at great length, and at "that time" i agreed with you, however, it was proven to be false.
pvp with no CP does not fix lagg, and it it does not hold sustain of resources, and it overall is worse.
CP pvp is far better in many ways.

Mr_Walker · February 2019

russelmmendoza wrote: »

Mr_Walker wrote: »

If only there were a campaign I could play that CP was disabled in....

Remove cp system from all campaign is what I'm trying to say.

I know what you're trying to say, but why remove options? You can play no CP to your hearts content already. There;'s no need to remove it from all.

Ertosi · February 2019

There's a reason why there are multiple campaigns with different settings. Feel free to use the campaign that suits your playstyle and quit trying to rain on other people's parade.

MartiniDaniels · February 2019

Vapirko wrote: »

MartiniDaniels wrote: »

I think it's better to remove it. Basically you can't use same toon both for PVP and PVE because of those PVP-specific CP points.. and there will be much less broken exploiting builds. I mean you will never see some crazy sh*t like 10 people can't kill one for a 30 seconds in BG.
And proc sets should be nerfed accordingly.

Ahhh there’s no CP in BGs lol. BGs is a mess all on its own. Also you currently have Sotha and BGs for no CP. I personally like the change of pace having both CP and no CP. I cannot understand why people who don’t like CP keep bitching about it instead of just going to a no CP environment. And I say this as someone who wouldn’t miss a beat if they did remove CP from PvP. I just happen to like both, and as someone who plays both I find them equally unbalanced in different ways.

Ahaha, "thanks" for clarification about BG. Sorry, probably too long sentence:
you will never see some crazy sh*t like 10 people can't kill one for a 30 seconds in BG.

SoLooney · February 2019

Theres already no cp campaigns. Why would you want to make them all non cp?

Makes no sense and just makes you seem entitled

malicia · February 2019

Why take the choice from people? Those who play in CP campaigns do so because we want to. We choose to live with the good and bad of CP when we choose a CP campaign. You can similarly choose a non-CP campaign and have the environment you like. Why take away what we like?

robpr · February 2019

I'd like to have non-CP DUEL option, without needing to respec manually and waste gold.

As for CP, I'd like to see it removed entirely from the game and giving something different instead, like perks.

White wabbit · February 2019

All PvP should be non-zerg

Bam_Bam · February 2019

SoLooney wrote: »

Theres already no cp campaigns. Why would you want to make them all non cp?

Makes no sense and just makes you seem entitled

Well said.

OP needs to pipe down.

bitels · February 2019

There was try at this already. Apparently it helped a little bit with a lag, and for short time all campaigns were no-CP, but it also cause massive backlash from people who prefer CP PvP.
Tbh im fine with how it is right now- we have both cp and non-cp campaigns, everyone can choose what they prefer.

Kel · February 2019

MartiniDaniels wrote: »

Vapirko wrote: »

MartiniDaniels wrote: »

I think it's better to remove it. Basically you can't use same toon both for PVP and PVE because of those PVP-specific CP points.. and there will be much less broken exploiting builds. I mean you will never see some crazy sh*t like 10 people can't kill one for a 30 seconds in BG.
And proc sets should be nerfed accordingly.

Ahhh there’s no CP in BGs lol. BGs is a mess all on its own. Also you currently have Sotha and BGs for no CP. I personally like the change of pace having both CP and no CP. I cannot understand why people who don’t like CP keep bitching about it instead of just going to a no CP environment. And I say this as someone who wouldn’t miss a beat if they did remove CP from PvP. I just happen to like both, and as someone who plays both I find them equally unbalanced in different ways.

Ahaha, "thanks" for clarification about BG. Sorry, probably too long sentence:
you will never see some crazy sh*t like 10 people can't kill one for a 30 seconds in BG.

You still see that in BG's though...having no CP doesn't fix that issue.
Not to mention no CP often is a heaven for proc set cheesy builds. Not that Cyrodiil isn't, it's just far more prevalent and effective in no CP.

https://youtu.be/I5SrOe-vc0Y

https://youtu.be/DsIz7L830Ks

Just some examples of "some of that crazy ***" you said you never see in no CP...

Edit: Also don't understand the need to take away choice because someone doesn't personally like something. There's already a no CP campaign you can play in.
Never understood why so many players call out for no cp, yet they don't set foot in Sotha Sil. As many who say that's the way to play, that campaign sure is empty.

Trancestor · February 2019

No go away

JaZ2091 · February 2019

Vapirko wrote: »

MartiniDaniels wrote: »

I think it's better to remove it. Basically you can't use same toon both for PVP and PVE because of those PVP-specific CP points.. and there will be much less broken exploiting builds. I mean you will never see some crazy sh*t like 10 people can't kill one for a 30 seconds in BG.
And proc sets should be nerfed accordingly.

Ahhh there’s no CP in BGs lol. BGs is a mess all on its own. Also you currently have Sotha and BGs for no CP. I personally like the change of pace having both CP and no CP. I cannot understand why people who don’t like CP keep bitching about it instead of just going to a no CP environment. And I say this as someone who wouldn’t miss a beat if they did remove CP from PvP. I just happen to like both, and as someone who plays both I find them equally unbalanced in different ways.

So then you would agree that CP doesn't affect game play performance?

Parrot1986 · February 2019

If CP didn’t contribute so much to poor performance and insane impact damage output/mitigation then I’d play it. It makes sense that you have PVP that includes the only real progression the game has. I wouldn’t go so far as to say remove it all together, I just wouldn’t play in it. Non CP is much smoother a performance all round.

Kel · February 2019

Parrot1986 wrote: »

If CP didn’t contribute so much to poor performance and insane impact damage output/mitigation then I’d play it. It makes sense that you have PVP that includes the only real progression the game has. I wouldn’t go so far as to say remove it all together, I just wouldn’t play in it. Non CP is much smoother a performance all round.

How is that possible when there would be a rise in proc set use and AoE ball groups, because it's harder to mitigate that damage.

I'd say you experience smoother game play because there's a lack of players, and performance has absolutely nothing to do with CP or lack of it...

Zordrage · February 2019

People
Need
To STOP
Thinking
that in
MMOs
Taking
Away
Options
Is a
Good Idea !

LordTareq · February 2019

PvP already is non-CP. Battlegrounds are non-CP and there is a non-CP Cyrodiil campaign. If some people choose to play the CP campaign instead, good for them.

DisgracefulMind · February 2019

no ty