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You going to do something about all the Bots?
Rantog
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Every other dungeon you go to right now has a group of bots parked at the boss spawns.
They never move, never speak, and you could set the second-hand on your watch by the timing of their buffs between spawns.
Go into any dungeon right now and see for yourself.
To demonstrate, I poked into the closest dungeon to where I am - Softloam Cavern.
5 rounds of the boss - the following 4 users have been absolute Clockwrok timing.
None have moved a step, they don't respond to spoken chat, and you can drag mobs right in front of their noses and they don't react. They Only react to the spawn of the boss, and in Exactly the same sequence of actions in Exactly the same timing every time.
Edited by ZOS_MichelleA on April 8, 2014 1:37PM They never move, never speak, and you could set the second-hand on your watch by the timing of their buffs between spawns.
Go into any dungeon right now and see for yourself.
To demonstrate, I poked into the closest dungeon to where I am - Softloam Cavern.
5 rounds of the boss - the following 4 users have been absolute Clockwrok timing.
None have moved a step, they don't respond to spoken chat, and you can drag mobs right in front of their noses and they don't react. They Only react to the spawn of the boss, and in Exactly the same sequence of actions in Exactly the same timing every time.
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Crassius✭✭✭I'd report this in game if you haven't already.
Not sure how much traction a forum post is going to get tbh.Let me guess, someone stole your sweetroll...
Everything I say is just my opinion. Like it or not - that's all it is.5 -
djodars✭✭✭I have also came across players gathered around a public dungeon boss "farming" him every time he spawned.
Are you reporting them using the in-game report?
I know it takes a minute or two from your gaming time but it's the only way to bring attention to the matter.
I would also not put their names on the forums to avoid false accusations or unnecessary pitchforking.5 -
I saw this too, which got annoying when I went to kill the boss. I know they drop shards, so I killed it a couple times and talked to a few people, but several did nothing but the same actions over and over, never said a word. Just loses the immersion n crowds the boss."Every man dies, not every man really lives." ~ William Wallace
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Haqikah✭✭✭You can use /bug to make a bug, exploit, bot, goldspammer, etc report. I believe Zenimax reacts far faster to this than any forum post.2
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moxsapphire_ESO✭✭✭please be careful with this and ensure report only a guilty party. there are a lot of innocent people being caught in the crossfire. think hard before you report4
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GossiTheDog✭✭✭✭✭There's a lot of farming going on, but I don't think it's bots. I don't believe a bot is available for ESO yet, for one thing. There are gold sales going on, so I think chances are it's people in an office somewhere, uh, farming.5 -
ButthurtySoul ShrivenActually, you don't need a bot with currect game mechanics. Just simple macro from any device. You want someone got banned for using macro? facepalm5 -
Kyosji✭✭✭I wouldn't post players names in the forums. Calling a witch hunt on someone without proof from ZOE that they are indeed bots, you're basically ruining the name of a legit player.
Most games won't let you call out other players like that because of that reason.0 -
i report them all but there are so many^^^
i think i could bot mself with no problems only with my sidewinder keyboard....its so stupid,,,Edited by 1111scornneb18_ESO on April 8, 2014 1:31PM1 -
elwimp✭One thing to do to try and see if it's a bot. Use a an aggro skill to move the boss away from his position. Do the players follow or remain where they are? No auto targeting and auto follow is great1
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ZOS_MichelleA✭✭✭✭✭Hello, all! As stated in our Community Code of Conduct, we do not allow posts or threads that are created for the purpose of “naming-and-shaming” other community member(s). “Naming-and-shaming” is the act of creating a post to call out an individual or group by name, and making them the subject of public accusation, ridicule and/or shaming. Generally, naming-and-shaming involves an in-game situation and/or Terms of Service violation, which the ESO Community Team is unable to assist with.
Thank you for your diligence in reporting this to us, but if you genuinely believe someone has violated our Terms of Service, we ask that players please report them in-game via the support interface (/help) rather than post it on the official ESO community forums. Thank you!4 -
Kyosji✭✭✭ZOS_MichelleA wrote: »Hello, all! As stated in our Community Code of Conduct, we do not allow posts or threads that are created for the purpose of “naming-and-shaming” other community member(s). “Naming-and-shaming” is the act of creating a post to call out an individual or group by name, and making them the subject of public accusation, ridicule and/or shaming. Generally, naming-and-shaming involves an in-game situation and/or Terms of Service violation, which the ESO Community Team is unable to assist with.
Thank you for your diligence in reporting this to us, but if you genuinely believe someone has violated our Terms of Service, we ask that players please report them in-game via the support interface (/help) rather than post it on the official ESO community forums. Thank you!
Told ya!
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GossiTheDog wrote: »There's a lot of farming going on, but I don't think it's bots. I don't believe a bot is available for ESO yet, for one thing. There are gold sales going on, so I think chances are it's people in an office somewhere, uh, farming.
Plenty available sadly, hopefully they're as strict on bots as they are with RMT going from what I've seen so far.Member of the ESO Community Since Early Access Day 1
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Rantog✭✭✭✭
If you have any doubts - go hit Emberflint right now.GossiTheDog wrote: »There's a lot of farming going on, but I don't think it's bots. I don't believe a bot is available for ESO yet, for one thing. There are gold sales going on, so I think chances are it's people in an office somewhere, uh, farming.
The bots are stuck in a loop, they died at some point and it bugged out their script.
It is funny to watch... but pretty much destroys the quality of gameplay.
Yes, I'm reporting them in-game, but so far, the same ones I reported as the evening began are still in the same places repeating the same, identical in time and sequence, actions they were when I first logged on.
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Go visit Emberflint if you think these are "Legitimate" players.I wouldn't post players names in the forums. Calling a witch hunt on someone without proof from ZOE that they are indeed bots, you're basically ruining the name of a legit player.
Most games won't let you call out other players like that because of that reason.
When their scripts get confused by something interrupting their ability to do things exactly the same way each time - it gets funny.
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Yep, countless times I've reached the boss and couldn't even get a hit in because of farmers killing the boss within seconds of spawning. Really spoils it for me2
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Rantog✭✭✭✭
"for the purpose of" -ZOS_MichelleA wrote: »Hello, all! As stated in our Community Code of Conduct, we do not allow posts or threads that are created for the purpose of “naming-and-shaming” other community member(s). “Naming-and-shaming” is the act of creating a post to call out an individual or group by name, and making them the subject of public accusation, ridicule and/or shaming. Generally, naming-and-shaming involves an in-game situation and/or Terms of Service violation, which the ESO Community Team is unable to assist with.
Thank you for your diligence in reporting this to us, but if you genuinely believe someone has violated our Terms of Service, we ask that players please report them in-game via the support interface (/help) rather than post it on the official ESO community forums. Thank you!
Told ya!
I posted "for the purpose of" - requesting their attention with regard to the rampant botting going on in nearly Every dungeon in the game right now.
As to reporting them in-game... we've been doing that since they started this.
Make a character, level them up- report the bots on the way... start a new character 2 days later.. see the SAME bots in the same place.. report again..
A couple days later, go through it all again.
That is why I posted here - because the In-Game reports are apparently being ignored.Edited by Rantog on April 8, 2014 2:17PM4 -
Kyosji✭✭✭Maybe they are real players with real problems. Are you going to sit here and call out and make fun of a child with special needs? You monster!
Also, I've been called a bot in this game twice now, mainly for farming some of the mini world bosses. They act like I'm constantly killing the same mob over and over again for the 'epic lewtz' when the truth is it's a guaranteed filled soul stone each time they die. I have enough stones for me, my guildies, and some of my alts until level 20. Is that a bad thing?6 -
Belrim✭✭✭Maybe they are real players with real problems. Are you going to sit here and call out and make fun of a child with special needs? You monster!
Also, I've been called a bot in this game twice now, mainly for farming some of the mini world bosses. They act like I'm constantly killing the same mob over and over again for the 'epic lewtz' when the truth is it's a guaranteed filled soul stone each time they die. I have enough stones for me, my guildies, and some of my alts until level 20. Is that a bad thing?
yep, this is the problem here. some ppl dont care to check or even think if someone killing these bosses is a bot or a real player. theyre just too fast to call-out all sort of things.Early bird gets the worm, but second mouse gets the cheese.0 -
concobar✭✭✭Maybe they are real players with real problems. Are you going to sit here and call out and make fun of a child with special needs? You monster!
Also, I've been called a bot in this game twice now, mainly for farming some of the mini world bosses. They act like I'm constantly killing the same mob over and over again for the 'epic lewtz' when the truth is it's a guaranteed filled soul stone each time they die. I have enough stones for me, my guildies, and some of my alts until level 20. Is that a bad thing?
Starts with a straw man and ends with a justification. sounds guilty to me.
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raglau✭✭✭✭✭I do not believe they are bots. I came across a group like this in a public dungeon and realised they were farming the boss. I joined them for a bit as the drops were quite good. It got a bit dull so I left.
I am quite certain these were real players farming the boss.Every other dungeon you go to right now has a group of bots parked at the boss spawns.
They never move, never speak, and you could set the second-hand on your watch by the timing of their buffs between spawns.
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Kyosji✭✭✭I don't speak to players, mainly because I have most of my chat disabled and hidden. I instead use some add-ons to display each amount of damage I do and take per item, and a full detail of what is being leveled. It takes up a lot of reading room. I also use TS to communicate, so my thought is if you aren't actually talking to me, you're not important enough to give my time to.3
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circilion✭✭✭I don't speak to players, mainly because I have most of my chat disabled and hidden. I instead use some add-ons to display each amount of damage I do and take per item, and a full detail of what is being leveled. It takes up a lot of reading room. I also use TS to communicate, so my thought is if you aren't actually talking to me, you're not important enough to give my time to.
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Rantog✭✭✭✭I do not believe they are bots. I came across a group like this in a public dungeon and realised they were farming the boss. I joined them for a bit as the drops were quite good. It got a bit dull so I left.
I am quite certain these were real players farming the boss.
I find it interesting that several are trying so hard to argue that these are Real players..
A Human player - is limited to Roughly the same actions in Roughly the same timing, and will occasionally be delayed in reaction.
But lets ignore that. Lets assume that a human could actually repeat these processes without fail and in perfect time for hours on end.
Explain the other 2-4 characters with which they are operating in perfect synchronicity.
These aren't individual characters farming a spawn, these are Botted Groups of characters, working in perfect sync with each other, well outside the realm of human capacity.
Even the use of hardware-macro devices, like programmable gamepads, doesn't allow for these characters to work perfectly As A Group.3 -
Kyosji✭✭✭Welp, I say provide a few hours of non-stop video of you watching these 'bots', or you have nothing to back your claim up with. Seems fair.1
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✭I do not believe they are bots. I came across a group like this in a public dungeon and realised they were farming the boss. I joined them for a bit as the drops were quite good. It got a bit dull so I left.
I am quite certain these were real players farming the boss.
I suspect there are cases of both.
I don't mind farming in general. I'm an immersion-oriented player, and even I've killed the bosses at the ends of dungeons multiple times in a row. They have good loot, and sometimes the respawn timer doesn't leave you time to get out of the way.
However, I've also come across a lot of people who never move and shoot in one direction even after the boss is moved. If they're not bots, then they're some sort of shenanigans.
Also, if your farming disrupts the gameplay of others, then you should be reported either way. Multiple times, I.haven't been able to get a hit in edgewise because the bots/farmers have reached critical mass and take the boss down in seconds. Immersion-breaking, I can tolerate in an MMO... not letting me finish my quests will lead to reporting.
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My Girls:"If you were trapped in your house for, say, a year, how would you pass the time?"
Nephikah the Houseless, dunmer assassin: "I suppose I could use the break. I have a lot of business holdings now that need management."
Swum-Many-Waters, elderly argonian healer: "I think that I would enjoy writing a memoir."
Silh'ki, khajiit warrior-chef: "Would this one be able to go outside, to the nearby river? It's hard to fish without water!"
Peregrine Huntress, bosmer hunter: "Who is forcing me to stay inside, and where can I find them?"
Lorenyawe, altmer mechanist: "And why would I want to go outside in the first place? Too much to be done in the workshop."
Lorelai Magpie, breton master thief: "I'd go nuts. Lucky for me, I have a little experience sneaking out!"
Rasheda the Burning Heart, redguard knight: "I would continue my training to keep my skills sharp."
Hex-Eye Azabi, khajiit daedric priestess: "I suppose it would be lucky, then, that I built a shrine to Mephala in my backyard."
Yngva Stormhammer, nord bandit (reformed...ish): "I hate being inside even when I'm not forced to be. GET. ME. OUT."
Madam Argentia, vampire dunmer aristocrat: "I suppose it would be more of the same. I have a rather... contentious relationship with the sun."
Mazie gra-Bolga, orc scout: "Uh... I'd have to house train my bear..."
Felicia the Wanderer, imperial witch-for-hire: "What Lorelai said."
Calico Jaka-dra, retired khajiit pirate: "This one would like a rest from her grand adventures. Her jewel shop runs out of stock!"
Shimmerbeam, blind altmer psijic: "Provided that I am confined to Artaeum, I do not think I will want for things to occupy my time."
Shauna Blackfire, redguard necromancer: "Sounds like paradise. I hate people."
Kirniel the Undying, cursed bosmer warrior: "I would feel useless, not being able to fight."
Echoes-from-Dragons, argonian who thinks she's a dragon: "All the better to count my hoard!"
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Kyosji✭✭✭
Well, considering you already admitted that you watched them 'hours on end', sure. If you upload a video of a few hours of these 'bots' farming a boss in complete sync, I'll admit to you they were bots. If not, or you can't, you really have no right to call someone a bot. If I'm wrong, please let me know where you got your degree in 'Bot-tology', and I will apologize once again.5
