Dig into the forums sometime, look to around the time the justice system was added in the first place, and you will find a great many people whining about it, declaring it would "ruin" provisioning crafting for lack of ingredients if they became "owned", demanding that they somehow get to "opt out" of getting a bounty for stealing everything like they used to before that came, etc.
Knightpanther wrote: »Optional or not, the PvP component of the Justice System is not going to be added.
"Having players enforce justice on the criminal activity of other players has the potential to introduce imbalances and other issues that greatly outweigh any potential gameplay benefits. The game's central concept of "PvP in PvP areas and be safe in safe areas" needs to stay the way it is."
https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/25563
Could not agree with them more, keep PvP away from PVE.
Be safe
Do you.... realize that is not like than even now?
Besides, as i wrote, it would be fully optional, so puny pvers would be safe as long as they don't mess with things they can't handle!
The fact that you so eloquently refer to "puny pvers" speaks volumes about your motives.
Oooor i was just taunting the likes of you and you just fell in my trap
I can see that this is one of those topics where the OP has expressed his opinion and won't countenance any other. As such, the topic will go the same way as every other one of the gazillion other proposals to foist PvP on PvEers while maintaining that it's purely optional. It never is, and this one is no exception. If holding a contrary opinion to the OP isn't an option then you can guarantee that his proposal won't be optional either.
Knightpanther wrote: »Optional or not, the PvP component of the Justice System is not going to be added.
"Having players enforce justice on the criminal activity of other players has the potential to introduce imbalances and other issues that greatly outweigh any potential gameplay benefits. The game's central concept of "PvP in PvP areas and be safe in safe areas" needs to stay the way it is."
https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/25563
Could not agree with them more, keep PvP away from PVE.
Be safe
Do you.... realize that is not like than even now?
Besides, as i wrote, it would be fully optional, so puny pvers would be safe as long as they don't mess with things they can't handle!
The fact that you so eloquently refer to "puny pvers" speaks volumes about your motives.
I can see that this is one of those topics where the OP has expressed his opinion and won't countenance any other. As such, the topic will go the same way as every other one of the gazillion other proposals to foist PvP on PvEers while maintaining that it's purely optional. It never is, and this one is no exception. If holding a contrary opinion to the OP isn't an option then you can guarantee that his proposal won't be optional either.
Yup can't have a "serious discussion" with a closed mind.
Preventing players from leaving the zone for a certain amount of time.... right.... not going to happen... people will just log off, queue for dungeon or bg, or queue for cyrodiil....
Switching zones is so much part of this game, that any timer of some significant length to force someone to stay in 1 zone is something that will never happen
I can see that this is one of those topics where the OP has expressed his opinion and won't countenance any other. As such, the topic will go the same way as every other one of the gazillion other proposals to foist PvP on PvEers while maintaining that it's purely optional. It never is, and this one is no exception. If holding a contrary opinion to the OP isn't an option then you can guarantee that his proposal won't be optional either.
Yup can't have a "serious discussion" with a closed mind.
Btw: you post on a public form? Prepare to have different opinions from everyone. The forums don’t revolve around you.I can see that this is one of those topics where the OP has expressed his opinion and won't countenance any other. As such, the topic will go the same way as every other one of the gazillion other proposals to foist PvP on PvEers while maintaining that it's purely optional. It never is, and this one is no exception. If holding a contrary opinion to the OP isn't an option then you can guarantee that his proposal won't be optional either.
Yup can't have a "serious discussion" with a closed mind.
This makes me wonder why some of you are here then.
Your hosility and stubborness despite the fact that all your arguments were refuted is astnishing
I have been on the boards here since the beginning. Even before the beginning. There us a small subset of people who want PVP Justice, most players do not. Numerous polls also support this.
This is not the first time this has been brought up.
I have been on the boards here since the beginning. Even before the beginning. There us a small subset of people who want PVP Justice, most players do not. Numerous polls also support this.
This is not the first time this has been brought up.
No, i mean how can you be certain of the percentages, of the fact that those who whish such system are less that those who oppose to its relisation.
I am afraid that you are mistaking those who simply says "it will not happen", maybe bc of the former statements, with those who oppose the idea.
I have been on the boards here since the beginning. Even before the beginning. There us a small subset of people who want PVP Justice, most players do not. Numerous polls also support this.
This is not the first time this has been brought up.
No, i mean how can you be certain of the percentages, of the fact that those who whish such system are less that those who oppose to its relisation.
I am afraid that you are mistaking those who simply says "it will not happen", maybe bc of the former statements, with those who oppose the idea.
I suggest you do some research. Nestor is absolutely right, all previous discussions have centred around a few players who want to impose PvP penalties for PvE crimes in PvE zones (usually with false options) and the many who do not want that, all set within the context of ZOS making it absolutely clear that it isn't going to happen. As flogging dead horses go, it's right up there with auction houses.
There are only a few people in this thread who offer any sort of sympathy for the idea, and most of them either favour it being purely in Cyrodiil or else believe it won't happen anyway. The topic's only reached the third page because you've made over 30% of the posts yourself!
Reistr_the_Unbroken wrote: »
I have been on the boards here since the beginning. Even before the beginning. There us a small subset of people who want PVP Justice, most players do not. Numerous polls also support this.
This is not the first time this has been brought up.
No, i mean how can you be certain of the percentages, of the fact that those who whish such system are less that those who oppose to its relisation.
I am afraid that you are mistaking those who simply says "it will not happen", maybe bc of the former statements, with those who oppose the idea.
I suggest you do some research. Nestor is absolutely right, all previous discussions have centred around a few players who want to impose PvP penalties for PvE crimes in PvE zones (usually with false options) and the many who do not want that, all set within the context of ZOS making it absolutely clear that it isn't going to happen. As flogging dead horses go, it's right up there with auction houses.
There are only a few people in this thread who offer any sort of sympathy for the idea, and most of them either favour it being purely in Cyrodiil or else believe it won't happen anyway. The topic's only reached the third page because you've made over 30% of the posts yourself!
I agree with the last sentence, most of them are from Algo
I have been on the boards here since the beginning. Even before the beginning. There us a small subset of people who want PVP Justice, most players do not. Numerous polls also support this.
This is not the first time this has been brought up.
No, i mean how can you be certain of the percentages, of the fact that those who whish such system are less that those who oppose to its relisation.
I am afraid that you are mistaking those who simply says "it will not happen", maybe bc of the former statements, with those who oppose the idea.
I suggest you do some research. Nestor is absolutely right, all previous discussions have centred around a few players who want to impose PvP penalties for PvE crimes in PvE zones (usually with false options) and the many who do not want that, all set within the context of ZOS making it absolutely clear that it isn't going to happen. As flogging dead horses go, it's right up there with auction houses.
There are only a few people in this thread who offer any sort of sympathy for the idea, and most of them either favour it being purely in Cyrodiil or else believe it won't happen anyway. The topic's only reached the third page because you've made over 30% of the posts yourself!
generalmyrick wrote: »im not a great fan of pvp but i love the idea of real life bounty hunters. what's the problem here?
too easy to get away from a npc guard and not as easy to flee from a human trying to hunt you down?
Dude, 27 out of all the posts are by you and you alone.
I have been on the boards here since the beginning. Even before the beginning. There us a small subset of people who want PVP Justice, most players do not. Numerous polls also support this.
This is not the first time this has been brought up.
No, i mean how can you be certain of the percentages, of the fact that those who whish such system are less that those who oppose to its relisation.
I am afraid that you are mistaking those who simply says "it will not happen", maybe bc of the former statements, with those who oppose the idea.
I suggest you do some research. Nestor is absolutely right, all previous discussions have centred around a few players who want to impose PvP penalties for PvE crimes in PvE zones (usually with false options) and the many who do not want that, all set within the context of ZOS making it absolutely clear that it isn't going to happen. As flogging dead horses go, it's right up there with auction houses.
There are only a few people in this thread who offer any sort of sympathy for the idea, and most of them either favour it being purely in Cyrodiil or else believe it won't happen anyway. The topic's only reached the third page because you've made over 30% of the posts yourself!
Well ofc discussions are revolving around their supportes: that's how a basic thesis-antithesis system works...
The fact that they discarded their idea doesn't imply that another one may not take its place, reinforced by new concepts.
Reistr_the_Unbroken wrote: »
I have been on the boards here since the beginning. Even before the beginning. There us a small subset of people who want PVP Justice, most players do not. Numerous polls also support this.
This is not the first time this has been brought up.
No, i mean how can you be certain of the percentages, of the fact that those who whish such system are less that those who oppose to its relisation.
I am afraid that you are mistaking those who simply says "it will not happen", maybe bc of the former statements, with those who oppose the idea.
I suggest you do some research. Nestor is absolutely right, all previous discussions have centred around a few players who want to impose PvP penalties for PvE crimes in PvE zones (usually with false options) and the many who do not want that, all set within the context of ZOS making it absolutely clear that it isn't going to happen. As flogging dead horses go, it's right up there with auction houses.
There are only a few people in this thread who offer any sort of sympathy for the idea, and most of them either favour it being purely in Cyrodiil or else believe it won't happen anyway. The topic's only reached the third page because you've made over 30% of the posts yourself!
I agree with the last sentence, most of them are from Algo
Well, ofc: i made the post and i answered. It's a discussion, as the title says, afterall...
Anyway you can measure the interest from how many ppl visited the topic.
I didn't read everything, but did you know that the justice system was supposed to have pvp involved with players as the law and criminals. Thankfully they tabled the pvp part before implementation.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/241386/pvp-justice-system-canceled
Optional or not, the PvP component of the Justice System is not going to be added.
"Having players enforce justice on the criminal activity of other players has the potential to introduce imbalances and other issues that greatly outweigh any potential gameplay benefits. The game's central concept of "PvP in PvP areas and be safe in safe areas" needs to stay the way it is."
https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/25563