I completely agreed with this. I was very excited when I read the note in the murkmire pts as I play my casters more than my melee characters, but it is no better, or even worse than it was before, it is impossible to hit a dodging target with any projectiles, and even beam attacks, on consecutive roll dodgers whereas before a well timed projectile could hit the player in between roll dodge animations pre-murkimire.

Would like to know if the latency affects this issue. On PTS with glorious 230-280 ms I feel like it's worse than on live server (even tho it still happens often on live server too while having 120 ms).

@Koolio

Yeah, that's one of the things I've found most with the changes. Just being nuked and stunned by Incap mid dodge feels so cheap

Dodging after the animation has hit you has been a thing for a long time now.

Funny how it does not work for other skills. In fact, often times you'd use your shield or heal and THEN get it by the attack and still die. But not dodgers. Nope, they can negate the damage even AFTER they have been hit. ZOS really loves stamblades.

I get hit with snipe and incap all the time half way through a roll. It's just reflex at this point when you know it's coming but now it doesn't help and instead just get's you killed.

Mashille wrote: »

Here's something I haven't seen brought up yet. But the dodge changes made with the Murkmire patch need to be reverted. I don't know what the team was aiming to achieve with this, but it didn't work. Since the patch I've seen people dodge things where the animation of the ability clearly hits them while they're not dodging and I've seen targeted attacks and abilities hit people when they are literally in the middle of a dodge roll.

For PvP's sake please revert these dodge changes as a lot of dodging in combat feels so out of sync and "off"

The upcoming patch would be a great place to do this.

I'm not sure reverting it is the solution but I agree that dodge roll is broke as ***. People are definitely still dodging things that were cast well after a roll when that wasn't supposed to be a thing anymore. I'll have to take the stam guys words on being able to be hit mid roll as I have trouble landing anything on a dodge roll build whether it is cast before, during, or after a roll. Dodge roll is definitely the best ability in the game. You don't have to slot it, you can dodge before, during, or after an attack, and unlike with shields, you are not effected either by the damage of the ability or any other negative effects from it.

Can mag toons please have a dodge roll that takes mag as well as the overall ability cost reduction of 20% that stam toons have because it is such a burden to have dodge and block be stam. Where was our cost reduction for having shields be mag by the way? All we got is a 50-66% reduction in how good shields are and we still have to slot them.

I don't know guy, I've always had the problems you're all talking about, even before Murkmire.

I lost count of how many times I've been hit mid roll, and I've come to understand it was just latency: The enemy on their screen can see the hit, while on my screen, I still have to see the enemy character moving... And kinda only happens in laggy situations (especially when I try to dodge Incap)

This patch is a god send for me... While I still get hit mid roll as always, at least I can use Snipe more reliably (on an hybrid templar, so no sneak ganks... You can put down your forks guys).