Psijic order tree line gives you the answer for that.i would actually like an execute for stamsorcs and dks, I think that would be awesome.
SaintSubwayy wrote: »agree stamDK needs a Class spammable, as does sorcs.
BUt they cannot touch either morph of Whip, since both Morphs are widely used in PVE or PVP.
However they could rework the Stonefist skill, which is not a comonly used in PVE nor PVP as whip is, and rework this to a Spammable stamnia skill.
maybe make a Physical and a Poison DMG morph
SaintSubwayy wrote: »agree stamDK needs a Class spammable, as does sorcs.
BUt they cannot touch either morph of Whip, since both Morphs are widely used in PVE or PVP.
However they could rework the Stonefist skill, which is not a comonly used in PVE nor PVP as whip is, and rework this to a Spammable stamnia skill.
maybe make a Physical and a Poison DMG morph
Stonefist would not work as a spammable because of the Helping Hands passive. The skill would have to cost too much to compensate for the fact that you would return stamina with every cast.
Also this
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/373570/claw-of-the-mad-god-stamina-dk-pve-dd-build-50k-selfbuffed-murkmire-pts/p1
Venomous claw can be easily used as spammable.
Also this
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/373570/claw-of-the-mad-god-stamina-dk-pve-dd-build-50k-selfbuffed-murkmire-pts/p1
Venomous claw can be easily used as spammable.
Did you read my OP? I specifically said NOT SPAMMING VENEMOUS CLAW
It's a DOT!
We need a direct damage CLASS spammable
not a dot
not a weapon ability
The stamina playstyle for DK's feels like a poorly implemented afterthought as is and a single class spammable that's not a dot would help tremendously.
Need for what ? You say "we need it" , "It have to be direct damage" but need for what and why it has to be direct dmg ? For the record most of the dmg part from claw ewhen You use is as spammable IS direct dmg because initial dmg from it is direct dmg. Stam dk is completly fine as it is imo and when someone proves it people just come with arguments like the ones You provided which is basically "It's bad because it's bad and I dont want it". How about play a little with it and them come back with constructive feedback ?
SaintSubwayy wrote: »agree stamDK needs a Class spammable, as does sorcs.
BUt they cannot touch either morph of Whip, since both Morphs are widely used in PVE or PVP.
However they could rework the Stonefist skill, which is not a comonly used in PVE nor PVP as whip is, and rework this to a Spammable stamnia skill.
maybe make a Physical and a Poison DMG morph
Also this
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/373570/claw-of-the-mad-god-stamina-dk-pve-dd-build-50k-selfbuffed-murkmire-pts/p1
Venomous claw can be easily used as spammable.
Did you read my OP? I specifically said NOT SPAMMING VENEMOUS CLAW
It's a DOT!
We need a direct damage CLASS spammable
not a dot
not a weapon ability
The stamina playstyle for DK's feels like a poorly implemented afterthought as is and a single class spammable that's not a dot would help tremendously.
Need for what ? You say "we need it" , "It have to be direct damage" but need for what and why it has to be direct dmg ? For the record most of the dmg part from claw ewhen You use is as spammable IS direct dmg because initial dmg from it is direct dmg. Stam dk is completly fine as it is imo and when someone proves it people just come with arguments like the ones You provided which is basically "It's bad because it's bad and I dont want it". How about play a little with it and them come back with constructive feedback ?
You really aren't offering anything here except telling me that I'm inexperienced and to be happy with the status quo.
Can you tell me why most other stamina classes have a real direct damage spammable, while stamdk relies on either a weapon ability or an ability that is a dot?
If you are running rotation using venemous claw as spammable, you will always cut off the last 1-2 ticks of it, because recasting endless hail assuming you have vMA bow is higher priority.
Can you refute this?
John_Falstaff wrote: »@Juhasow , I brought a couple of things - no response to me? Loss of damage from strongest ST DoT in the box (because Claw damage ramps up towards the end, overcasting it reduces overall damage done), lackluster spammable Claw makes (it has no associated effects like other spammables do), lack of skills to let sDK bring Minor Brutality to the group (without sacrificing own damage).
John_Falstaff wrote: »@Juhasow , that's a totally flawed reasoning.
Spammable, by definition, is the direct damage instant cast ability you cast when you already have all your dots running. So once you have Hail, PI, Caltrops, Rending, Trap, Claw, FoO running, you have to fill your space with something, be it a real spammable or Claw. You argue that by using Claw you get it "tick" faster than it was intended to be, but it's a fallacy: by using another spammable, you would have had "ticks" of that spammable every 0.9 seconds, and ticks of your Claw (which would have been growing in damage as per Claw tooltip. So let's not try to pull a fast one here, because comparison is between spamming a spammable while Claw is running, and spamming Claw while losing chunk of the damage it's ought to produce after a single cast.
John_Falstaff wrote: »@Juhasow , that is the whole point, you see. You have compared damage of Claw DoT per second, with damage of Claw spam per second. But it's not a valid comparison, because the test "what damage per second can I get if I won't use Claw as a spammable?" includes: casting Claw, and making use of eight GCDs you got by not using Claw as a spammable (instead letting it run free). So no, your second test ignores the fact that using Claw as a DoT implies both Claw ticks, and spammable casts.
Again, cost is low, but that's the gist. If you have spare sustain, using better spammable (alongside with extra good DoT which is Claw) is a good way to exchange that sustain for more damage. And added niceties - healing or full uptime on Major Fracture - make spammable even better.