I do not like the timed trials bit, nor the bonus rewards for the leader board. It simply caters to those without jobs or lives to play over and over, where the working class that actually earn their money to play this game gets the shaft.

I would rather have a point system, where anyone that completes the area gets 100 points, anyone that completes it with a minimum of deaths gets 200 points, and anyone that completes it with a minimum of deaths in a certain time gets 300 points. And then you can use your points to save up and purchase items.

Most raiders do not want to work on a system that just pushes time, as then you get sloppy people trying to shave a second off their times. Furthermore, you have developed a beautiful game in which you are pushing us to not enjoy the content that you created, by making us rush through it. Is there something you do not want us to see?

I would like to see an option that is a 12 man raid type that is not a time trial. This would appeal to more of your game base.

Just giving my thoughts on a few things...

I don't see this as "penalising" PVPers. Isn't this instead giving PVEers something to do? Not everyone wants to do PVP, so wouldn't PVP giving all the best stuff mean that PVEers are penalised? This seems more like it is spreading the love around a bit.

I also don't see there being an issue with making it require 4 to 12 people. Again, not everyone wants to go solo. Not having content for those that prefer groups would mean solo players would have an advantage.

Every time something comes out, instead of thinking "Is this something that I will enjoy, otherwise why are they doing it?", think more along the lines of "It is cool that they are creating content for everyone.".

I'm a solo player generally, so this update doesn't really apply to me at this point in time, but I still see it for what it is... A cool update for many players. If I ever run out of solo content, and the devs aren't supplying me with more, then I might complain. But as long as they are sharing the love amongst everyone, all is good.

As for those saying that they should fix the bugs before adding content, remember there are many different employees working on this game. The bug-fixing ones are almost certainly completely different people than the content-creating ones. The game should be departmentalised. I'm sure there are people working on the bugs, and throwing more people at bugs probably wouldn't help things (but make patching more complicated). We've already had a couple of patches within a week. That isn't bad considering they need to patch the problem, then test it thoroughly to make sure it doesn't break anything else.

As for Craglorn itself... looks pretty cool. Hopefully this is just the start. I'm interested to see how quickly new content like this comes out.

What people seem to be forgetting about is that ultimately the "Best" gear will come from crafters, So it doesn't really matter what drops the best gear, becuase a crafter will either make it better, or a crafter will be able to offer something just plain better.

A dropped green in my experience so far is on par with a crafted white in terms of damage, so a Dropped item increased to legendary might not do as much damage, have as much armor or what have you. The only real bonus to having a dropped item is that certain set bonuses can't be obtained any other way and some people might prefer those set bonuses.

Just recall that crafting is the path to the best gear, not PVP, not PVE, it's crafting which can be done by both sides of the game easily.

Csection wrote: »

Can we enter the craglorn if we haven't completed the main story quest? The quest "Messages across Tamriel" is still bugged. I guess a good reason to quit this game is because people who actually got to veteran rank can not play vet content because Zenimax's game doesn't work and have no intention on fixing it.

another reason to quit is that tamriel is no place for whiney whelps and milkdrinkers.

bye!

Hopefully, we will have the option to at least try to go it alone. Or maybe an auto-group function. Some of us don't have large groups of friends who play the game, so auto-grouping would be VERY helpful.

Marpat_Ninja wrote: »

Hopefully, we will have the option to at least try to go it alone. Or maybe an auto-group function. Some of us don't have large groups of friends who play the game, so auto-grouping would be VERY helpful.

Get friends then, MMOs w/o friends is like sex w/o a gf/bf
But anyway, i'm pretty sure u can use the grouping tool to find a group

I hope, for the sake of the subscribers that don't wish to be a part of the "Craglorn leaderboard" pack, that content will be offered that is equivalent and equally rewarding, especially for players that absorb more of the lore and exploration opportunities of the game.

I think it's incredibly strategic to offer this type of content for those that enjoy this type of gameplay, but I concur with others that have expressed the opinion that they don't like to be rushed through content via 'Speed Trials'.

I could see this sort of content bringing out the worst in people, and that's pretty much why I abandoned another "AAA" MMORPG that I won't mention by name; I was in a guild in that MMO for over 6 years, but our long-standing, fun-spirited raid group became fractured and eventually dissolved over similar content when it was implemented. Bickering and back-biting became the rule of the day, and idiotic 'elitism' over virtual content became more important than the tenuous friendships that had developed in that time.

I understand the need for content that caters to those with more of a competitive spirit, but there are also those of us that want to be richly rewarded for the time spent doing the things we love as well, be it crafters, explorers, or monster hunters and dungeon crawlers.

Don't get me wrong, I AM impressed with the ambitious scope of what Craglorn has to offer, but there are a variety of MMO play styles that I hope Zenimax will take into account when developing the "Veteran" content.

Fresh is fresh! Huge kudo's Zeni for creating something that is familiar for our mmo'ing players yet provides an edgy new way of 'raiding' for PvE. I am psyched for the AV's. There is something there for the competitors, there is seriously a lot there for smaller groups/guild families who want to just tighten up and practice through/learn content together too! Very, very cool.

Please note - your group/s do/does not HAVE to be concerned with the timed trial as you go along at all. I'm sure the people putting together groups for that content will specifically provide info in their group searches about which they plan to do. There will be practice groups, there will be done-with-practice groups etc. You do not have to be 'pressured' unless that is your groups goal. If it isn't then the timer won't concern you. I don't think there is going to be some 9-inch flashing neon timer in the center top of our screen from the second you start a trial.

The timer there for those who either 1) want to work toward it and know that from the get-go and 2) later for those who master the trials through maybe helping friends etc and would like to reach for the timed trial prize as extra incentive. Nowhere in the explanation did it say there was no loot, nor that there was not some sort of dungeon loot. It is equitable and fair and motivating if there is additional prizes to be earned for working harder, longer, organizing group composition, maintaining scheduling needed to practice the trial etc.

There is additional loot for the folks who get it done and get it done in a certain time! That is motivating! At the veteran ranks there is alllll kinds of content; not being able to 'solo' in AZ's which are designed and created specifically for group content is not something to be haggling about. Anyone who has ever played an mmo knows there are raid zones - raid zones are understood not to be solo-friendly, period. In some games you can possibly farm in some little isolated, or outdated content raid zones, but current content is not for the single player in any mmo I've ever played >>>and that is a long list btw.

We have a - fabulous amount of solo content available to us as we explore throughout Tamriel, grouping fun and crafting relevancy. By the time we 'get' to the proverbial endgame for those who focus on that, we will definitely have had enough practice to be up for these new adventure zones! But, if we don't want to do group content in the AZ - there are other alternatives as there always are for capped players in an mmo. Personally I will be enjoying all this deliciousness for a long while before I even begin to 'worry' about what is at endgame, I have a life to 'pretend' live in Tamriel and am having such a blast doing so and hanging with friends. But now, LOOK what I and others have to look forward to in these AZ in addition to other endgame activities!

Choice is a beautiful thing. When the hinges are made of creativity, and the door knob has a bright, shiny star emblazoned on it, I'd say its one I want to enter and pass through again, and again and again.

Woo-hoooo! Yes Zenimax!

This looks awesome!

Please do not listen to the whiners and keep up adding new content like this!
This is THE reason why I only play games with a monthly fee, so they can afford to work on the game.

Looks and sounds amazing! I have no rush to level 50, but I am pretty sure the game will keep evolving like it does.

Bugs can be fixed easily. Bad games are not so easy to fix.

EsO is a GREAT game! Sod the bugs! Keep it up!

tokyov wrote: »

Fix your game before adding new content. Thanks.

Dude this is the best launch for an MMO since DAoC, even WoW was worse so plz shutup and let the Devs fix what needs to be fix and add content for those of us who will be paying our $15 a month.

steven_shidiwenb16_ESO wrote: »

Talk about Craglorn? HOW ABOUT YOU FIX THE MAIN STORY QUEST - Messages Across Tamriel so we can actually ENTER veteran maps. GET YOUR PRIORITIES FIXED ZENIMAX This quest has been broken since early Access and you fix the Frog race first?! No one gives two about the frogs...

Calm your grits dude. They didn't fix the frog race, they removed it, thus proving that they are, in fact, prioritizing the more important fixes. I have it on pretty good authority that the code monkeys at ZOS are currently putting in 13-14 hour days right now.

Csection wrote: »

Because something was crap over 10 years ago, its okay for it to be crap today? Cool logic

I think you may be confused. ESO has not had 10 years to polish its product. WoW has. Doesn't matter how advanced tech gets, debugging code takes time.

Viverim wrote: »

I am just disappointed with the restrictive nature of this add-on content and I am hoping for something more balanced in any future expansions. (and this thread IS a feedback thread, so if I and others who hold a similar opinion are not allowed to give our views then what's the point of asking for feedback?)

You're certainly entitled to your opinions, you just have to forgive peoples' understandable incredulity that you're apparently so fixated on single-player gameplay in an MMO.

FTGr4ndomj4ck wrote: »

What I don't like is the limit on the revives. Maybe a limit while in combat or a limit on boss fights, or maybe a limit to qualify for the trials. It seem that if i have a slightly less able group we wont be able to experience the content. Or did I misunderstand this completely?

I thought this meant within the trial, which basically means in combat and in a boss fight. A less able group won't be able to finish the encounter, but that's how it should always be, right? Otherwise people would just corpse-flop through it like that dino world boss in WoW.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYueIdI_2L0

Warlord of Draenor

Csection wrote: »

so its a place for tamriel fanboys where they love games that are just broken. good to know. don't want to be dumb like that

Then as we said to the Capaldi whiners...