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Would you like to have a class change token available, now that we're getting yet another new class?
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Kagetenchu✭✭✭Yes, but only IF...
My no vote includes wanting the name and race tokens to go away. If I want that much difference, it should be a new character, and that includes learning all the new skills.If a single character is so important to you, why would you want to change something so fundamental as its class?
Name/Race change to me is valid in the sense that if I didnt have 'any race, any alliance' and just now got it it helps there.1 -
Linaleah✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭none of the above. I wouldn't buy a class change myself, as identity of my characters is tied to their classes at this point. however, for people who would rather change their class on existing character? I'm all for them having an option for a token.
that said. personaly? I think it would be lovely if buying expansion came with included extra character slot. make it a preorder perk if you must, but... it would be quite nice if that was a thing.Edited by Linaleah on January 7, 2019 8:09PMdirty worthless casual.
Lois McMaster Bujold "A Civil Campaign"Reputation is what other people know about you. Honor is what you know about yourself. Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the ***2 -
Ragged_Claw✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes, add the class change token.Might as well. I've been playing my sorc since day one, and she has rolled with the changes so far, but she cannot escape the fact that she is squishier than ever and does less damage than a week-old guar. I like the idea of her turning to the 'dark-side' to vent her frustrations.
As much as I like rolling new characters, I have always got burned out before levelling up the riding/guilds/undaunted and collecting all those skyshards again. I'd probably roll a test necromancer first anyway, but I'm not sure I'm up for starting from scratch again. I never did finish my Warden...
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Linaleah✭✭✭✭✭
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looks like they wouldn't lose any money, since you either buy class change OR character slot. heck they may gain some money if class change token costs more then character slots.dirty worthless casual.
Lois McMaster Bujold "A Civil Campaign"Reputation is what other people know about you. Honor is what you know about yourself. Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the ***4 -
Facefister✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yes, add the class change token.I don't see any downside of being able to switch your class. My main is also my crafter, completionist etc. I do literally everything with it. I also have a second "main" but I don't want to abandon those characters. I mean, with enough magic you can also change your gender(don't want to spoil a certain quest), switching a class should be easier.3 -
MasterSpatula✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No, do not add the class change token.I would be willing to give really good odds that Class and Alliance are simply not possible to change in the way the game is coded."A probable impossibility is preferable to an improbable possibility." - Aristotle1 -
Urvoth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yes, add the class change token.If a single character is so important to you, why would you want to change something so fundamental as its class?
Class change tokens would simply result in competitive areas like PvP zones and trials being filled with the FOTM templates that would change with every update, all the more so as ZOS would see the business sense in making just enough changes in skill balancing etc each update to prompt another wave of class change token purchases.
Rather than dumb the game down even further with mass harmonisation of characters and with no decision ever taken in the game being unable to be reversed so no decision ever requires thought or responsibility, I'd far rather have very expensive crown store tokens enabling players who have completed everything in the game on at least one character to be able to create an instant maxed character. That way it would meet the demands of the few without impacting on everyone else.
People already level alts or buy more character slots according to FOTM. PvP players aren't going to class change constantly unless there is a extreme disadvantage to not doing so. It takes awhile to get really good at a class, and a lot of PvP depends more on situation, skill, sets, non class abilities, armor, etc than just on classes. On top of that, if everyone goes FOTM, the players on counter-classes are going to have a great time, so switching really doesn't have as big of a motivation as in PvE. Players are way more likely to go FOTM for stuff like trials but that happens a lot anyways.2 -
idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭rafaelcsmaia wrote: »notimetocare wrote: »If it resets everything except skyshards. Gotta let you lazy people have something for $50 class change token. No cheaper
So if I have over 5k hours of playtime on my main I suddenly am lazy because I dont feel like starting all over again? Wow
THIS. Why doesn't anyone understand this. Is everyone just too focused on pulling numbers in the game and trying to be #1 that they've forgotten about things like this? Isn't this WHY all of us loved our first RPGs? Our first MMO? Our first fantasy game? Having that one character almost write its own book?
This is so sad...
Nope. It is a business decision Zos has made to not offer it. Plain and simple I thought I had stated before but I guess it was not convenient.
Zos has access to better analytics than forum polls. When and if those analytics suggest it is worth offering this I expect they will. Until then the answer is a solid no.0 -
Nyladreas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Yes, add the class change token.rafaelcsmaia wrote: »notimetocare wrote: »If it resets everything except skyshards. Gotta let you lazy people have something for $50 class change token. No cheaper
So if I have over 5k hours of playtime on my main I suddenly am lazy because I dont feel like starting all over again? Wow
Ikr!! I don't get how people can feel so elitist and rude about creating more alts. This is a game, playing the same thing over again just to replace 3 class skill lines isn't being a hardworker or anything. We play the game to be lazy. It's a game! If we want to be hardworkers we work at our job, then we convert that time at our job to buy things we want, like replacing the 3 class skill lines. And for those who work long hours, starting over on a new character is unappealing and if they're dissatisfied with their class they might just quit instead.
Also this. I work in a different country every month. I work 6 days a week for 10 hours standard if not more in overtime to make a really decent living. I get a full week of holidays included in every month, sure, but I have a girlfriend, real life interests and other hobbies outside of ESO too. I'd still love to be able to enjoy the game without having to grind/reroll something that I have a special connection with - my main character. I mean I already have to do this anyway but it's only half as enjoyable, so why make it a 100 times worse and waste my free time?
Why can't people just be more open to this and more considerate towards things other than elitist ratings.
Some people vote no just because they want to be arrogant and negative. It's mind boggling.Edited by Nyladreas on January 7, 2019 9:37PM3 -
Fischblut✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yes, add the class change token.I have a character who is necromancer at heart and in my story
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AcadianPaladin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yes, add the class change token.@Nyladreas I agree with and endorse your logic as to some of the reasons why folks might want to re-class a character rather than start a new one. Therefore I strongly support the ability to change class and my vote reflects that. That said, I've no interest in using one at the moment nor any interest in a necromancer class.
PC NA(no Steam), PvE, mostly solo4 -
Starlock✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No, do not add the class change token.The idea of class change tokens - or race change tokens for that matter - are simply opposed to why I play the game in the first place. You don't take a character with a storied history and then fork over money to transform them into someone they aren't. None of my characters are necromancers, full stop. I also have no idea for any character concept for a necromancer, because I don't like necromancers. Kinda let down if this is the new class, but we'll see if I can spin it into something that isn't a necromancer given the label of the class doesn't really have to mean much with respect to who they actually are as characters.0 -
Sheezabeast✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yes, add the class change token.I think all players having completed Caldwell’s Gold on a character should unlock one class change token to that character as a reward for completing such a feat. If they monetize them, price it at 5000 Crowns and I won’t mind as much.Grand Master Crafter, Beta baby who grew with the game. PC/NA. @Sheezabeast if you have crafting needs!5 -
Odovacar✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yes, add the class change token.It would be nice to know its available if ever wanted, why not...1 -
Nyladreas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Yes, add the class change token.Sheezabeast wrote: »I think all players having completed Caldwell’s Gold on a character should unlock one class change token to that character as a reward for completing such a feat. If they monetize them, price it at 5000 Crowns and I won’t mind as much.
This is an amazing idea actually!!4 -
Giraffon✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes, add the class change token.It's a potential goldmine for Zeni. I mean it's right up their alley! Let's see...sell a bunch of class changes then do class breaking nerfs in 6 months and watch the class change sales go crazy all over again! /facepalm
I voted yes, but in hindsight this might be a really bad idea.Giraffon - Beta Lizard - For the Pact!1 -
Steelshiv✭✭✭✭Yes, add the class change token.I would def use a class change token on my old dk that I no longer play. It would save a character slot and I would play more since I typically make a new char, get overwhelmed by all the stuff I have to do (mages guild, fighters guild, undaunted, power levelling, main quest) Usually I get the new char to level 4 and never play it again.3 -
Sheezabeast✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yes, add the class change token.Sheezabeast wrote: »I think all players having completed Caldwell’s Gold on a character should unlock one class change token to that character as a reward for completing such a feat. If they monetize them, price it at 5000 Crowns and I won’t mind as much.
This is an amazing idea actually!!
The way I see it, it would alleviate the tension felt in the community by making people not be required to regrind their skill points and guild trees if they carried over to the new class chosen. People would still make alts and people with dedicated mains could have more of a choice in their end game experience.
Grand Master Crafter, Beta baby who grew with the game. PC/NA. @Sheezabeast if you have crafting needs!2 -
Nyladreas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Yes, add the class change token.Sheezabeast wrote: »Sheezabeast wrote: »I think all players having completed Caldwell’s Gold on a character should unlock one class change token to that character as a reward for completing such a feat. If they monetize them, price it at 5000 Crowns and I won’t mind as much.
This is an amazing idea actually!!
The way I see it, it would alleviate the tension felt in the community by making people not be required to regrind their skill points and guild trees if they carried over to the new class chosen. People would still make alts and people with dedicated mains could have more of a choice in their end game experience.
Thanks! I included you in the poll description, cause that is a great view on the subject.3 -
validifyedneb18_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭No, do not add the class change token.People would rather have a pay to have a more-fun-experience option than for zeni to fix the root cause.
Achievements linked per character, Skillpoints need to be ground on every new character (hope you like doing the same delves and public dungeons a dozen times over), Leveling being boring and essentially just an experience in trying to get to level 50 while expending either the least effort or least time possible.
For a lot of people, myself included, I like putting everything into one character. This is an ES game, where in the lore does it say "thou shalt buy a class change token if thou wishes to change their playstyle"Edited by validifyedneb18_ESO on January 7, 2019 10:42PMEU: Magden, Magknight, Stamsorc(*2), Magsorc
NA: Magplar, Magden, PotatoBlade0 -
Nyladreas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Yes, add the class change token.validifyedneb18_ESO wrote: »People would rather have a pay to have a more-fun-experience option than for zeni to fix the root cause.
Achievements linked per character, Skillpoints need to be ground on every new character (hope you like doing the same delves and public dungeons a dozen times over), Leveling being boring and essentially just an experience in trying to get to level 50 while expending either the least effort or least time possible.
For a lot of people, myself included, I like putting everything into one character. This is an ES game, where in the lore does it say "thou shalt buy a class change token if thou wishes to change their playstyle"
Where does it say one cannot change their profession? That actually makes a ton of sense lore-wise. Not only that one can, but it even implies that one should.3 -
D0PAMINE✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yes, add the class change token.Sheezabeast wrote: »I think all players having completed Caldwell’s Gold on a character should unlock one class change token to that character as a reward for completing such a feat. If they monetize them, price it at 5000 Crowns and I won’t mind as much.
That's actually a neat idea.4 -
Wildberryjack✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes, add the class change token.I have a slot free but since I have two of some classes then yeah I'd just class change one if that were an option.The purpose of art is washing the dust of daily life off our souls. ~Pablo Picasso1 -
Sylvermynx✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yes, add the class change token.I wouldn't use one myself - I'm happy leveling 18 girls, and still have open slots on my second account, plus the other 7 I could buy on that account.
But it would be really nice for those who aren't altoholics!1 -
Draxys✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yes, add the class change token.For me, it’s not about leveling things or horses or bags. All that can be done relatively easily. But 4 years of achievement points cannot be replicated in a realistic manner. I’m not entirely sure I would even use one, but it would be cool to have the option.2013
rip decibel5 -
Bekkael✭✭✭✭✭Yes, add the class change token.Sure, why not? Let people that want it, have it, and allow them to be happy with another choice to enjoy the game in a way that suits them. I would just create a new character, personally, but I'm all for players having lots of options, and I can't see how it would have any negative impact at all.
Let them eat cake have a class change!
~~ Lady Gamer ~~ ♥ ~~ Xbox NA ~~4 -
Caligamy_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No, do not add the class change token.Since this was the only option to vote for, I wouldn't say what to take or give to others but as for myself I will not spend crowns on non-content.love is love0 -
Shewolf075✭✭✭No, do not add the class change token.Voting no. It's nice to level up from bottom to top to fully get to grasp a class, to understand the abilities and eventually fit into a build or playstyle. Having the option to change class off the bat would be convenient to some who already understand classes.0
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Nyladreas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Yes, add the class change token.@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_RichLambert @ZOS_RobGarrett @ZOS_PhilipDraven any official opinions and statements on the subject, pretty please? 3 -
Nyladreas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Yes, add the class change token.Shewolf075 wrote: »Voting no. It's nice to level up from bottom to top to fully get to grasp a class, to understand the abilities and eventually fit into a build or playstyle. Having the option to change class off the bat would be convenient to some who already understand classes.
You misunderstood the entire subject. Most of us already have alts and can play them (personally 11) it's about something else entirely.2