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Skill Leveling Severely Bugged

irstarkey57
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Skills do not show progress while leveling. The only way to see how much your skill has leveled is to keep relogging or reloading UI. It’s one thing for a vet player to do this because they can make it work (though super annoying) but I guarantee this is a much larger issue for new players who will just simply not know what’s going on. Also, this bug has been there for at least two weeks now. Upper craglorn delver achievement still bugged due to Loth Na caverns still after three years too. : /
  • Apache_Kid
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    Yup had this happen to me on Xbox NA when leveling up some psijic skills on a character a couple days ago.

    You are entirely right that it isn't a big deal to many of us but newer players will get extremely frustrated with this.
  • fgoron2000
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    Skills do not show progress while leveling. The only way to see how much your skill has leveled is to keep relogging or reloading UI. It’s one thing for a vet player to do this because they can make it work (though super annoying) but I guarantee this is a much larger issue for new players who will just simply not know what’s going on. Also, this bug has been there for at least two weeks now. Upper craglorn delver achievement still bugged due to Loth Na caverns still after three years too. : /

    The skill leveling progress bug actually started with Wolfhunter / Update 19, so on PC it actually started on the 13th of August, and ZOS still hasn't even acknowledged it's existence despite there being multiple threads on the forum about this issue.

    I can't speak to the Craglorn one, though.

  • Mystrius_Archaion
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    The last patch on 9/10 seemed to fix this for me. I got vampire, first time ever, after this and the vampire skills seem to be showing progress as they level just fine. I'll have to wait until they rank up to be sure.
    Either that or it updates every load screen now which it didn't seem to before.
    If we wanted "challenge" in City of Heroes we would solo the content. If we wanted fun we would form a random PUG the majority of the time and just "wreck face!" feeling overpowered. That was the most fun of any game I've ever played so why does no other "newer" game design that way? I guess they like players never feeling good enough and the inevitable "max level rat/worm/insect/this-shouldn't-be-a-threatening-enemy-but-it-is" effect.
  • Luigi_Vampa
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    @ZOS_GinaBruno are you guys aware of this bug? It is pretty annoying and as the OP said, it will be very confusing to new players.
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  • Mystrius_Archaion
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    Funny, it is showing for Vammpire line and skills as they gain xp, which I just got last night, but my psijic skil lIntrospection, morph of Medfitate, isn't showing progress until a /reloadui.

    It seems the date the skill line was added to your character matters.

    Hmm, perhaps this has something to do with the skill advisor and the stupid change that hides all skill lines until you actually do something to reveal them, like no weapon skill lines until you kill something with the specific weapon, which is ridiculous as a system anyway.
    If we wanted "challenge" in City of Heroes we would solo the content. If we wanted fun we would form a random PUG the majority of the time and just "wreck face!" feeling overpowered. That was the most fun of any game I've ever played so why does no other "newer" game design that way? I guess they like players never feeling good enough and the inevitable "max level rat/worm/insect/this-shouldn't-be-a-threatening-enemy-but-it-is" effect.
  • Mystrius_Archaion
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    Funny, it is showing for Vammpire line and skills as they gain xp, which I just got last night, but my psijic skil lIntrospection, morph of Medfitate, isn't showing progress until a /reloadui.

    It seems the date the skill line was added to your character matters.

    Hmm, perhaps this has something to do with the skill advisor and the stupid change that hides all skill lines until you actually do something to reveal them, like no weapon skill lines until you kill something with the specific weapon, which is ridiculous as a system anyway.

    Calling attention to this for you @ZOS_Wrobel and @ZOS_GinaBruno and @ZOS_JessicaFolsom
    This could be the heart of your problem. I bet the skill bar progress is not showing for skill lines made visible before whatever change caused this because my vampire skill line is showing progress updating in real-time while other skill lines, including the Psijic Order one, do not.
    If we wanted "challenge" in City of Heroes we would solo the content. If we wanted fun we would form a random PUG the majority of the time and just "wreck face!" feeling overpowered. That was the most fun of any game I've ever played so why does no other "newer" game design that way? I guess they like players never feeling good enough and the inevitable "max level rat/worm/insect/this-shouldn't-be-a-threatening-enemy-but-it-is" effect.
  • Derbforgaill
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    This has been reported previously, but no one from ZOS acknowledged it, as usual
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/5433666#Comment_5433666
  • Jaimeh
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    I also reported it a few days ago: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/433672/skills-not-levelling-and-stuttering-happening-again#latest Skills that were ready to be morphed wouldn't show the available morphs and were stuck in their previous rank, I could only solve it by reloading the UI.
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  • jaws343
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    I wonder if this is the same issue I am seeing on xbox NA right now. I just finished off leveling the restro line on an alt and attempted to level Panacea. Unfortunately none of the exp I gained seemed to count to the skill and it is sitting stuck at level 1 without any visible progress to the skill.
  • Kurat
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    Few times during a fight I got message that skill so and so can now be morphed. When fight was over opened skill menu and xp was still missing to max. Then reloaded UI and skill was maxed and allowed morphing.
  • olancho
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    Yep, have been experiencing this issue since PC/Mac Patch v4.1.6 released on August 20 on all toons on my account.
  • o6untouchable
    I've been noticing this bug pretty badly this week. Got the pop-ups telling me that abilities were ready to be morphed, but when I pulled up the skill menu to actually spend points on them, they were still stuck half-way through III. Took loading into a new area to dislodge them.
  • Mystrius_Archaion
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    Funny, it is showing for Vammpire line and skills as they gain xp, which I just got last night, but my psijic skil lIntrospection, morph of Medfitate, isn't showing progress until a /reloadui.

    It seems the date the skill line was added to your character matters.

    Hmm, perhaps this has something to do with the skill advisor and the stupid change that hides all skill lines until you actually do something to reveal them, like no weapon skill lines until you kill something with the specific weapon, which is ridiculous as a system anyway.

    Calling attention to this for you @ZOS_Wrobel and @ZOS_GinaBruno and @ZOS_JessicaFolsom
    This could be the heart of your problem. I bet the skill bar progress is not showing for skill lines made visible before whatever change caused this because my vampire skill line is showing progress updating in real-time while other skill lines, including the Psijic Order one, do not.

    Update to this...

    I maxed out my vampire rank last night, up until this point the skills were showing progress. I now do not see progress on the skill's bars in the vampire line until I /reloadui or change zone or relog.

    This is definitely tied to the skill line itself being max rank or not, when that stops showing progress because it stops gaining progress. It could also be potentially tied to other skills in the same line being maxed out also, but that has not been the case when they have a morph available at least.
    If we wanted "challenge" in City of Heroes we would solo the content. If we wanted fun we would form a random PUG the majority of the time and just "wreck face!" feeling overpowered. That was the most fun of any game I've ever played so why does no other "newer" game design that way? I guess they like players never feeling good enough and the inevitable "max level rat/worm/insect/this-shouldn't-be-a-threatening-enemy-but-it-is" effect.
  • Waffennacht
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    Prevents you from morphing it too.

    Posted about it on the day of release because they said bugs we're the reason PC got discounted skill Respec.

    I said we too have bugs.

    I was promptly ignored
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  • MoTeets
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    Same issue here
  • Ertosi
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    I've got an exaggerated variant of this bug. Happened to a really old NB alt that I started leveling again. Since I last played the toon (ages and ages ago) the level requirement to unlock their Shadow skill Shadow Cloak had gone up. They had already unlocked and slotted the skill, even morphed it to Shadowy Disguise, but now its showing as locked as she's no longer high enough level to purchase it (even though it can still be unslotted and reslotted). I leveled her some more until she's more than high enough level for it, but its still showing as locked and isn't giving any options to put a skill point into it to unlock it. As its locked, its not able to gain any more experience, despite being slotted.

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    I'm sure my particular variant is also related to the other bug caused by experience increases needed for skills before they can be morphed, which causes older characters who respec a skill to no longer be able to re-morph it afterwards, until they make up the difference in experience.

    Also pretty sure that once I respec this particular skill, it'll correct my probs, but just haven't gotten around to giving it a try yet. Only, not sure its going to let me respec a locked skill... XD

    Edit (for Clarification): I was level 14 when I started playing on this toon again. I've had Shadowy Disguise slotted since then (on both bars since hitting lvl 15!) and its experience hasn't budged a bit. Relogging the toon doesn't change this.

    Edit (Update/Resolution): Because the skill was locked, I was not able to select it to be remorphed individually, but I was able to select the Clear All Morphs option for all Shadow Skills at a shrine, which resolved my issue. I'm now able to level this skill normally.
    Edited by Ertosi on September 17, 2018 4:43PM
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  • Thunderclap
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    No fix for that bug in 4.1.10 :/. Must always relog to morph a skill. very frustrating :(
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  • fgoron2000
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    this bug and variations of it appeared on the release of wolfhunter / update 19. there have been numerous threads here in the forum in both the general and bugs sections, and I still have yet to see ZOS even acknowledge it. They've addressed other bugs associated with that update, but not this one. I give up trying to press them for it. At this point, each time I have a skill hit level IV, I just reloadui. Despite being a pain, it's less annoying than continuing to chase ZOS around on it, only to be ignored.

  • Thunderclap
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    No fix for that bug in 4.2.5 :/. Must always relog to morph a skill. very frustrating :(
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  • g6x8h12
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    Reset of all skills and desapiere of the Aliance War skill line after confirming the changes on the Outfit Station.
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  • g6x8h12
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    Outfit Station bug
  • Jaimeh
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    This bug is still not fixed... skills do not show their levelling progress; also when we get the prompt that they can be morphed, it will not show... must reload UI to see progress and/or moprh them. Please let us know if you are looking into this.
    @stargold

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    EP Máyim - Dunmer Nightblade - DD ǀ The Flawless Conqueror

    vSO HM · vAA HM · vHRC HM · vMOL · vHOF HM · vAS HM · vCR+1 · vDSA · vBRP

    It's not zerging if we are all solo and just happen to go to the same place independently xD
  • Valkyn_Eltrys
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    Necroing here

    @ZOS_GinaBruno PLEASE IT'S MONTHS OLD
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  • MachineKludge
    ping

    It seems well reported already, but since nobody is acknowledging, maybe we need to use smaller words to be understood.

    Skill progress is not being updated in the skill leveling UI. Messages are reported that this-or-that skill has increased level but the progress bar shows no increase since entering the zone. Similarly, messages will report a skill can be morphed, but it cannot actually be morphed because the skill leveling UI is not allowing it, i.e the UI has not matched/updated the progress.

    One must leave the zone. Sometimes loading screens related to quest progress or enter/exit a delve might update the progress, but they might not. Whereas completely leaving one zone to another seems to always cause an update.

    After an update happens, the progress stops updating again until the next time it is forced.

    Is that clear enough? I can try drawing pictures next time.

    (Maybe ZoS support think I am rude? Maybe I wouldn't be so rude if ZoS support did simple things like say, '"Thanks for the report." and "We will do our best to look into it.", or even, "We understand people are frustrated, but since there is a workaround, higher priority issues are being addressed first.")
  • ZOS_GinaBruno
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    Hey everyone, just confirming we have seen this and have a fix scheduled in our next major update. Thank you!
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