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Youtube Builds - Can We Stop Please?
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Lab3360✭✭✭✭✭So, they are going to nerf Alkosh?
If so, I would be willing to bet its because the way its being isused. A medium dps set on a tank I believe is not what was intended. It allows for groups to break mechanics in trials.
I absolutely destest nerfs. But this one is welcomed.Edited by Lab3360 on December 22, 2018 7:23PM0 -
Lab3360✭✭✭✭✭p_tsakirisb16_ESO wrote: »mattaeus01b16_ESO wrote: »If I have to hear "Why arnt you wearing Ebon and Alkosh" One more time. Im gonna, IM GONNA ... probably do nothing, cause I really couldnt care less.
I run Ebon & Imperium. Wrote many times, that Alkosh doesn't worth the grind since it gets Minor Fracture soon.
Pointless for me as a Templar Tank who can cast and maintain the debuff all the time. (alongside Major Fracture from S&B).
Also is matter of synergies. In trials you can barely pull 1 every blue moon as the DDs use them first while you try to block the next heavy attack from the boss, or bashing it to rupt.
Same applies to my Templar Healer. The Extended Ritual procs Spell Power Cure all time.
And I see no reason to grind Infallible Mage for Minor Vulnerability debuff, as I am using lightning staff and with wall + enchantment is applies it 90% of the time, per tick...
I would like to know however where you found the information regarding Alkosh receiving minor fracture? Could you provide a link?0 -
Lab3360✭✭✭✭✭as a tank:
-i am not responsible for their max health. build your guy correctly and stop whining. (i am not required to wear ebon)
-i am not responsible for the “l33t deeps” damage output. if they were as “leet” as they think they are, they dont need the alkosh buff. build your guy correctly and stop whining. (i refuse to wear alkosh)
-i will hold aggro on bosses no problem but i will not taunt trash mobs. those leet/fake deeps have a job to do. stop whining and kill it faster while i hold the bigger enemies. DO YOUR JOB TOO!
i refuse to cater to meta chasing dps player sheep.
all these entitled children and punks want it all handed to them.
i am however a diva tank and i dont do that.
everyone has a job, so go do it.
you want to play silly meta nonsense, go join a guild.
if some dps punk runs off i let him die and tell the group not to res him. usually vote to kick the punk. depends on my mood.
if healers dont do their job, i drop aggro and let them get demolished.
it is very satisfying too.
tanks are essential.
dps punks need US more than WE need THEM.
Since you’re basically doing nothing relevant then, I’d say you’re not essential at all.
Then run youre team without both tanks. See how well that ends for you.
Considdring they are not essentialEdited by Lab3360 on December 22, 2018 7:29PM1 -
Lab3360✭✭✭✭✭28k is a lot more than a dd or a healer would have and they make up 83.33%(repeating of course) of the trial group
There was another tank in there too.
Lol. Whatever. I guess you're just ignoring there was another tank who could grab aggro and do pick ups, but I guess that doesnt count.
And guess failed execute on mechanic dosent count either.
I doubt you could have done any better.
You probably would not have even had the choice to pic them up like I did.
You just want to nit pick.
I feel like people like you are far more ignorant in actual life. What a hypocrit.
Youre comment
"Come around to our way of thinking"
Look who sounds like they are better than everyone else.
You remind me a lot of that guild leader
You proved my post and insticts to be correct about arogant pricks
Hmmm I'm the one trying to have a discussion and you're just getting mad and throwing out insults. If you didn't want people to disagree with you, why post something in the first place?
Maybe you should calm down or you'll end up on Santa's naughty list
No bro. I love disagreements. But if we are going to have a discussion, then lets not ignore all the facts, especially considering I already said I could have handled the situation better. I try to learn from everything I can.
But, when say youre way is the best way and the only in no uncertain words and then stack on top of that the fact you are ignoring other factors to try to prove a point. Then its not really an open discussion. It become something else.
I dont mind being wrong about things. ***, youre not perfect either. So please dont act like it.
But, If you want to have at it. Lets have at it. I love it
As far as Santas naughty list, well, lol Im always on that list.
Edited by Lab3360 on December 22, 2018 7:42PM0 -
Rittings✭✭✭✭✭
✭As far as I'm concerned, YouTube/Streamer builds are just a starting point if you are trying something different. I don't think i've ever fully copied a build I've seen... they give me ideas for rotations, set combos etc.. but ultimately, I know that a build needs to be personalized for a persons skillset and playstyle. Fully agree with the OP.1 -
pod88kk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭as a tank:
-i am not responsible for their max health. build your guy correctly and stop whining. (i am not required to wear ebon)
-i am not responsible for the “l33t deeps” damage output. if they were as “leet” as they think they are, they dont need the alkosh buff. build your guy correctly and stop whining. (i refuse to wear alkosh)
-i will hold aggro on bosses no problem but i will not taunt trash mobs. those leet/fake deeps have a job to do. stop whining and kill it faster while i hold the bigger enemies. DO YOUR JOB TOO!
i refuse to cater to meta chasing dps player sheep.
all these entitled children and punks want it all handed to them.
i am however a diva tank and i dont do that.
everyone has a job, so go do it.
you want to play silly meta nonsense, go join a guild.
if some dps punk runs off i let him die and tell the group not to res him. usually vote to kick the punk. depends on my mood.
if healers dont do their job, i drop aggro and let them get demolished.
it is very satisfying too.
tanks are essential.
dps punks need US more than WE need THEM.
Since you’re basically doing nothing relevant then, I’d say you’re not essential at all.
Then run youre team without both tanks. See how well that ends for you.
Considdring they are not essential
Not all tanks, just you8 -
Claudman✭✭✭✭✭as a tank:
-i am not responsible for their max health. build your guy correctly and stop whining. (i am not required to wear ebon)
-i am not responsible for the “l33t deeps” damage output. if they were as “leet” as they think they are, they dont need the alkosh buff. build your guy correctly and stop whining. (i refuse to wear alkosh)
-i will hold aggro on bosses no problem but i will not taunt trash mobs. those leet/fake deeps have a job to do. stop whining and kill it faster while i hold the bigger enemies. DO YOUR JOB TOO!
i refuse to cater to meta chasing dps player sheep.
all these entitled children and punks want it all handed to them.
i am however a diva tank and i dont do that.
everyone has a job, so go do it.
you want to play silly meta nonsense, go join a guild.
if some dps punk runs off i let him die and tell the group not to res him. usually vote to kick the punk. depends on my mood.
if healers dont do their job, i drop aggro and let them get demolished.
it is very satisfying too.
tanks are essential.
dps punks need US more than WE need THEM.
Except...
You are responsible for their max health with Ebon and there are a lot more things you're supposed to be doing than just tanking and standing in one spot. Some groups can also perform well in most forms of content without tanks, without healers even. By dropping aggro on the boss out of spite of a DPS is also a disservice to the group especially if you were being very slow as a tank.
Again, I'm seeing a lot of blame being put on DPS, but honestly? You don't sound like a good tank. How are you not responsible for damage dealing? Is a Major Breach or Major Force too much to ask for? No horns, buffs or debuffs?
Right, tank is totally about only holding aggro. /SarcasmEdited by Claudman on December 23, 2018 12:37PMWelcome, Moon-and-Star, to this place where destiny is made.
I play healers or DPS often for vet dungeons and trials (NA, CP810+). I play mostly elves or Argonians.
I primarily play Damage-Based stuff in PvP, but occasionally I'll play something tanky or got the heals.
I also love gaining more knowledge both metaphysical and mundane regarding TES lore.
I also occasionally role-play, but I prefer playing the game.5 -
Tommy_The_Gun✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Well, I agree with OP. I can make effective non-meta builds myself. I don't need some eso "guru" to tell me what should I use. Most of the time it is not working as every player has slightly different play-style & preferences. So "build" should be more individual "thing".
Besides I also suspect that often "YouTube builds" are causing unnecessary nerfs:
YouTube builds = something gets popular = something becomes meta = something is called OP = call for nerfs = something gets nerfed.
The very reason why I avoid those builds like the plague....4 -
Claudman✭✭✭✭✭Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »Well, I agree with OP. I can make effective non-meta builds myself. I don't need some eso "guru" to tell me what should I use. Most of the time it is not working as every player has slightly different play-style & preferences. So "build" should be more individual "thing".
Besides I also suspect that often "YouTube builds" are causing unnecessary nerfs:
YouTube builds = something gets popular = something becomes meta = something is called OP = call for nerfs = something gets nerfed.
The very reason why I avoid those builds like the plague....
I doubt that proclaimation.
What do you run on your tank if not be from learning from the "oh so evil meta"?Welcome, Moon-and-Star, to this place where destiny is made.
I play healers or DPS often for vet dungeons and trials (NA, CP810+). I play mostly elves or Argonians.
I primarily play Damage-Based stuff in PvP, but occasionally I'll play something tanky or got the heals.
I also love gaining more knowledge both metaphysical and mundane regarding TES lore.
I also occasionally role-play, but I prefer playing the game.1 -
Tasear✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭p_tsakirisb16_ESO wrote: »mattaeus01b16_ESO wrote: »If I have to hear "Why arnt you wearing Ebon and Alkosh" One more time. Im gonna, IM GONNA ... probably do nothing, cause I really couldnt care less.
I run Ebon & Imperium. Wrote many times, that Alkosh doesn't worth the grind since it gets Minor Fracture soon.
Pointless for me as a Templar Tank who can cast and maintain the debuff all the time. (alongside Major Fracture from S&B).
Also is matter of synergies. In trials you can barely pull 1 every blue moon as the DDs use them first while you try to block the next heavy attack from the boss, or bashing it to rupt.
Same applies to my Templar Healer. The Extended Ritual procs Spell Power Cure all time.
And I see no reason to grind Infallible Mage for Minor Vulnerability debuff, as I am using lightning staff and with wall + enchantment is applies it 90% of the time, per tick...
Who said it gets minor fracture?0 -
Woeler✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭p_tsakirisb16_ESO wrote: »mattaeus01b16_ESO wrote: »If I have to hear "Why arnt you wearing Ebon and Alkosh" One more time. Im gonna, IM GONNA ... probably do nothing, cause I really couldnt care less.
I run Ebon & Imperium. Wrote many times, that Alkosh doesn't worth the grind since it gets Minor Fracture soon.
Pointless for me as a Templar Tank who can cast and maintain the debuff all the time. (alongside Major Fracture from S&B).
Also is matter of synergies. In trials you can barely pull 1 every blue moon as the DDs use them first while you try to block the next heavy attack from the boss, or bashing it to rupt.
Same applies to my Templar Healer. The Extended Ritual procs Spell Power Cure all time.
And I see no reason to grind Infallible Mage for Minor Vulnerability debuff, as I am using lightning staff and with wall + enchantment is applies it 90% of the time, per tick...
Who said it gets minor fracture?
Nobody, he literally just made that up.4 -
Tasear✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭p_tsakirisb16_ESO wrote: »mattaeus01b16_ESO wrote: »If I have to hear "Why arnt you wearing Ebon and Alkosh" One more time. Im gonna, IM GONNA ... probably do nothing, cause I really couldnt care less.
I run Ebon & Imperium. Wrote many times, that Alkosh doesn't worth the grind since it gets Minor Fracture soon.
Pointless for me as a Templar Tank who can cast and maintain the debuff all the time. (alongside Major Fracture from S&B).
Also is matter of synergies. In trials you can barely pull 1 every blue moon as the DDs use them first while you try to block the next heavy attack from the boss, or bashing it to rupt.
Same applies to my Templar Healer. The Extended Ritual procs Spell Power Cure all time.
And I see no reason to grind Infallible Mage for Minor Vulnerability debuff, as I am using lightning staff and with wall + enchantment is applies it 90% of the time, per tick...
Who said it gets minor fracture?
Nobody, he literally just made that up.
Thanks1 -
Claudman✭✭✭✭✭p_tsakirisb16_ESO wrote: »mattaeus01b16_ESO wrote: »If I have to hear "Why arnt you wearing Ebon and Alkosh" One more time. Im gonna, IM GONNA ... probably do nothing, cause I really couldnt care less.
I run Ebon & Imperium. Wrote many times, that Alkosh doesn't worth the grind since it gets Minor Fracture soon.
Pointless for me as a Templar Tank who can cast and maintain the debuff all the time. (alongside Major Fracture from S&B).
Also is matter of synergies. In trials you can barely pull 1 every blue moon as the DDs use them first while you try to block the next heavy attack from the boss, or bashing it to rupt.
Same applies to my Templar Healer. The Extended Ritual procs Spell Power Cure all time.
And I see no reason to grind Infallible Mage for Minor Vulnerability debuff, as I am using lightning staff and with wall + enchantment is applies it 90% of the time, per tick...
Who said it gets minor fracture?
I'm surprised that he was running Imperium honestly. That's the first time I've heard someone running it.
He probably just doesn't want to grind for Alkosh because...Idk.Welcome, Moon-and-Star, to this place where destiny is made.
I play healers or DPS often for vet dungeons and trials (NA, CP810+). I play mostly elves or Argonians.
I primarily play Damage-Based stuff in PvP, but occasionally I'll play something tanky or got the heals.
I also love gaining more knowledge both metaphysical and mundane regarding TES lore.
I also occasionally role-play, but I prefer playing the game.1 -
ayu_fever✭✭✭✭✭as a tank:
-i am not responsible for their max health. build your guy correctly and stop whining. (i am not required to wear ebon)
-i am not responsible for the “l33t deeps” damage output. if they were as “leet” as they think they are, they dont need the alkosh buff. build your guy correctly and stop whining. (i refuse to wear alkosh)
-i will hold aggro on bosses no problem but i will not taunt trash mobs. those leet/fake deeps have a job to do. stop whining and kill it faster while i hold the bigger enemies. DO YOUR JOB TOO!
i refuse to cater to meta chasing dps player sheep.
all these entitled children and punks want it all handed to them.
i am however a diva tank and i dont do that.
everyone has a job, so go do it.
you want to play silly meta nonsense, go join a guild.
if some dps punk runs off i let him die and tell the group not to res him. usually vote to kick the punk. depends on my mood.
if healers dont do their job, i drop aggro and let them get demolished.
it is very satisfying too.
tanks are essential.
dps punks need US more than WE need THEM.
Since you’re basically doing nothing relevant then, I’d say you’re not essential at all.
im sorry who are you?
tanks and healers are NOT slaves to dps.
if you want to play that way, go find some elitist tryhard guild and have at it.
PS4 NA
all characters are members of the ebonheart pact master race
BLOOD FOR THE PACT
main character:
Rebekah Straight-Fire, breton templar healer: THE FATEBRINGER (dungeons, trials, pvp)
—MERIDIA’S LUSTRANT— 1100+CP; alliance rank 21 (major grade 1); Rebekah is the most devoted and loyal follower of the lady of infinite energies and the highest ascendant of meridia’s purified legion and was forged from meridia’s brilliant radiance of purity.
other meta toons-
Alexa Straight-Fire, breton warden healer: THE ALCHEMIST (dungeons, trials)
Sasha Straight-Fire, nord dragonknight tank: THE UNBREAKABLE (dungeons, trials)
Freyja Straight-Fire, nord warden tank: THE ICEBERG (dungeons, trials)
Ororo Straight-Fire, dark elf magsorc: THE SHOCKWAVE (dungeons, trials)
Michonne Straight-Fire, redguard stamDK: THE EVISCERATOR (dungeons, trials)
just for fun toons-
Rhea Straight-Fire, wood elf warden stam healer: THE RANGER
Shiva Straight-Fire, high elf warden ice mage: THE CRYOMANCER
Morgana Straight-Fire, dark elf necromancer solo play: THE DEATHSINGER
Lucille Straight-Fire, dark elf nightblade solo play: THE VOIDWALKER
Diana Straight-Fire, nord templar tank: THE CLERIC
Falsetto Straight-Fire, orc stamsorc werewolf: THE THUNDERHOWL1 -
witchdoctor✭✭✭✭✭
✭as a tank:
-i am not responsible for their max health. build your guy correctly and stop whining. (i am not required to wear ebon)
-i am not responsible for the “l33t deeps” damage output. if they were as “leet” as they think they are, they dont need the alkosh buff. build your guy correctly and stop whining. (i refuse to wear alkosh)
-i will hold aggro on bosses no problem but i will not taunt trash mobs. those leet/fake deeps have a job to do. stop whining and kill it faster while i hold the bigger enemies. DO YOUR JOB TOO!
i refuse to cater to meta chasing dps player sheep.
all these entitled children and punks want it all handed to them.
i am however a diva tank and i dont do that.
everyone has a job, so go do it.
you want to play silly meta nonsense, go join a guild.
if some dps punk runs off i let him die and tell the group not to res him. usually vote to kick the punk. depends on my mood.
if healers dont do their job, i drop aggro and let them get demolished.
it is very satisfying too.
tanks are essential.
dps punks need US more than WE need THEM.
Since you’re basically doing nothing relevant then, I’d say you’re not essential at all.
im sorry who are you?
tanks and healers are NOT slaves to dps.
if you want to play that way, go find some elitist tryhard guild and have at it.
LOL at asking Woeler 'who are you' in a thread about tanking.
The answer: Woeler is someone who knows more about tanking in ESO than you ever will.
No offence, but Woeler is basically the guru savant of ESO tanking.16 -
shack80✭✭✭I really dont mind what u are wearing or using if u get your job done, but when I see dds cloaking and sniping on dungeons... well they could go and check out the "youtube builds"1 -
Tsar_Gekkou✭✭✭✭✭
✭Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »Alcast's builds are for noobs and lazy players who don't want to do a little bit of research. Even he does not use them. There is a reason why Alcast and Hodor don't post their 'personal' builds.
I've always wondered the reason. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that if they shared their actual builds, everyone would use them and nothing else, which would lead to Zos nerfing them to foster build diversity like with Mechanical Acuity, which would lead to the top raiders having to spend more time golding out and testing gear sets for theory crafting to find the next best build. Is that close?Xbox NA healer main
vAA HM | vHRC HM | vSO HM | vMoL HM | vHoF HM | vAS+2 | vCR+3 | vBRP | vSS HM | vKA HM | vRG HM |
Flawless Conqueror | Spirit Slayer | Dro-mA'thra Destroyer | Tick-Tock-Tormentor | Immortal Redeemer | Gryphon Heart | Godslayer | Dawnbringer | Planesbreaker |0 -
mb10✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭My PVP secret has always been my own unique build that people have struggled to defend against
The whole point of all these sets is to have your own playstyle not to copy some youtuber who really doesnt know much better than you in all truth
I refuse to accept a youtuber can give you the best build for every class as it can take years to truly master a class0 -
John_Falstaff✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭i am however a diva trash tank and i dont do that.
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tanks are essential.
dps punks need US more than WE need THEM.
I've corrected those five typos in the post. ^^ Mm-m, frankly, nobody needs that sort of tank. Any dps can put on Fortified Brass and Plague Doctor and will do the same half-baked meat shield job just fine.
So yes, tanks are essential. "Tanks", not so much.
And returning to YouTube builds, then, to be unorthodox and start thinking out of the box, you first have to know your box. Best way to figure out how something works is to tinker with it, disassemble and see how it's built on the inside. So, YouTube builds are great things, newbies can adopt them, tinker, tweak this thing and that, get a feel of how things work, figure out nuances not apparent from first glance. And then, knowing how a build works, they can make a better one. Yes, the issue of guilds being toxic about builds does exist, but this argument is old as world - dogmatics versus critically thinking people, it's nothing specific to ESO.Edited by John_Falstaff on December 24, 2018 4:51PM1 -
josiahva✭✭✭✭✭
✭I fully agree with the OP here. There is zero reason to play this game if you are going to copy and paste someone else's build. Make a build that works for you. Sure, try out some other people's builds if you like, but what works best for them may very well not work best for you. The "meta" is a disease that needs to be stamped out...it destroys any fun and originality in the game. The truth is good players can complete trials wearing completely white generic gear with no set bonuses...and that is all that really matters unless you are wasting time trying to make it to the top(or stay on top) of the leader-boards.2 -
Lab3360✭✭✭✭✭p_tsakirisb16_ESO wrote: »mattaeus01b16_ESO wrote: »If I have to hear "Why arnt you wearing Ebon and Alkosh" One more time. Im gonna, IM GONNA ... probably do nothing, cause I really couldnt care less.
I run Ebon & Imperium. Wrote many times, that Alkosh doesn't worth the grind since it gets Minor Fracture soon.
Pointless for me as a Templar Tank who can cast and maintain the debuff all the time. (alongside Major Fracture from S&B).
Also is matter of synergies. In trials you can barely pull 1 every blue moon as the DDs use them first while you try to block the next heavy attack from the boss, or bashing it to rupt.
Same applies to my Templar Healer. The Extended Ritual procs Spell Power Cure all time.
And I see no reason to grind Infallible Mage for Minor Vulnerability debuff, as I am using lightning staff and with wall + enchantment is applies it 90% of the time, per tick...John_Falstaff wrote: »i am however a diva trash tank and i dont do that.
<...>
tanks are essential.
dps punks need US more than WE need THEM.
I've corrected those five typos in the post. ^^ Mm-m, frankly, nobody needs that sort of tank. Any dps can put on Fortified Brass and Plague Doctor and will do the same half-baked meat shield job just fine.
So yes, tanks are essential. "Tanks", not so much.
And returning to YouTube builds, then, to be unorthodox and start thinking out of the box, you first have to know your box. Best way to figure out how something works is to tinker with it, disassemble and see how it's built on the inside. So, YouTube builds are great things, newbies can adopt them, tinker, tweak this thing and that, get a feel of how things work, figure out nuances not apparent from first glance. And then, knowing how a build works, they can make a better one. Yes, the issue of guilds being toxic about builds does exist, but this argument is old as world - dogmatics versus critically thinking people, it's nothing specific to ESO.
Lol. Laughable. The only critical thinkers are youtube. Wow, how ignorant.
Btw. Put on those sets, then youre no longer a dps.
Edited by Lab3360 on December 24, 2018 5:01PM1 -
Lightspeedflashb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭as a tank:
-i am not responsible for their max health. build your guy correctly and stop whining. (i am not required to wear ebon)
-i am not responsible for the “l33t deeps” damage output. if they were as “leet” as they think they are, they dont need the alkosh buff. build your guy correctly and stop whining. (i refuse to wear alkosh)
-i will hold aggro on bosses no problem but i will not taunt trash mobs. those leet/fake deeps have a job to do. stop whining and kill it faster while i hold the bigger enemies. DO YOUR JOB TOO!
i refuse to cater to meta chasing dps player sheep.
all these entitled children and punks want it all handed to them.
i am however a diva tank and i dont do that.
everyone has a job, so go do it.
you want to play silly meta nonsense, go join a guild.
if some dps punk runs off i let him die and tell the group not to res him. usually vote to kick the punk. depends on my mood.
if healers dont do their job, i drop aggro and let them get demolished.
it is very satisfying too.
tanks are essential.
dps punks need US more than WE need THEM.
Since you’re basically doing nothing relevant then, I’d say you’re not essential at all.
im sorry who are you?
tanks and healers are NOT slaves to dps.
if you want to play that way, go find some elitist tryhard guild and have at it.Edited by Lightspeedflashb14_ESO on December 24, 2018 5:04PM3 -
John_Falstaff✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Lol. Laughable. The only critical thinkers are youtube. Wow, how ignorant.
Btw. Put on those sets, then youre no longer a dps.
I don't think you've even bothered to read what I wrote, by this point in the thread you seem to be in write-only mode. ^^ But just to reiterate, the "dogmatics vs. critical thinkers" problem has nothing to do with YouTube builds, it lies with the people exposed to those builds. YouTube build is like a textbook (and no textbook is perfect). Some learn from it and build upon what they learned. Some stop at that and try to burn those deviating from the book at a stake. Be thankful you're not Giordano Bruno and can just walk away from toxic people to show your shiny unorthodox build to those who'd listen (hopefully also critical thinkers that will help to spot any issues in it and fix them). That's how progress works. The thing's old as world.
As for sets - yup, put them on, slot taunt, and you can try tanking. Doesn't make you essential though, any DPS will do that instead of "diva tank", and with less whining and fewer attempts to kick people. Beats me why would I need such a troublesome tank if I or one of guildies can put those sets on for pledges. And guess what, I'll even be packing and rooting trash, taunting heavy-hitters, keeping crusher and weakening uptime and, oh miracle, won't be complaining about damage. So no, that has nothing to do with critical thinking and going "own way". Not like such tank is trying to accomplish something.
Oh, and "but I'm super survivable because I was the last man standing" isn't a solid argument either, because, for all one knows, a tank may be the last to die because some untaunted heavy hitters or uninterrupted boss first have taken out the healer and damage dealers. Being the last man standing isn't always a sign of being good at one's job.1 -
Haashhtaag✭✭✭✭✭
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Lab3360✭✭✭✭✭John_Falstaff wrote: »Lol. Laughable. The only critical thinkers are youtube. Wow, how ignorant.
Btw. Put on those sets, then youre no longer a dps.
I don't think you've even bothered to read what I wrote, by this point in the thread you seem to be in write-only mode. ^^ But just to reiterate, the "dogmatics vs. critical thinkers" problem has nothing to do with YouTube builds, it lies with the people exposed to those builds. YouTube build is like a textbook (and no textbook is perfect). Some learn from it and build upon what they learned. Some stop at that and try to burn those deviating from the book at a stake. Be thankful you're not Giordano Bruno and can just walk away from toxic people to show your shiny unorthodox build to those who'd listen (hopefully also critical thinkers that will help to spot any issues in it and fix them). That's how progress works. The thing's old as world.
As for sets - yup, put them on, slot taunt, and you can try tanking. Doesn't make you essential though, any DPS will do that instead of "diva tank", and with less whining and fewer attempts to kick people. Beats me why would I need such a troublesome tank if I or one of guildies can put those sets on for pledges. And guess what, I'll even be packing and rooting trash, taunting heavy-hitters, keeping crusher and weakening uptime and, oh miracle, won't be complaining about damage. So no, that has nothing to do with critical thinking and going "own way". Not like such tank is trying to accomplish something.
Oh, and "but I'm super survivable because I was the last man standing" isn't a solid argument either, because, for all one knows, a tank may be the last to die because some untaunted heavy hitters or uninterrupted boss first have taken out the healer and damage dealers. Being the last man standing isn't always a sign of being good at one's job.
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Lab3360✭✭✭✭✭John_Falstaff wrote: »Lol. Laughable. The only critical thinkers are youtube. Wow, how ignorant.
Btw. Put on those sets, then youre no longer a dps.
I don't think you've even bothered to read what I wrote, by this point in the thread you seem to be in write-only mode. ^^ But just to reiterate, the "dogmatics vs. critical thinkers" problem has nothing to do with YouTube builds, it lies with the people exposed to those builds. YouTube build is like a textbook (and no textbook is perfect). Some learn from it and build upon what they learned. Some stop at that and try to burn those deviating from the book at a stake. Be thankful you're not Giordano Bruno and can just walk away from toxic people to show your shiny unorthodox build to those who'd listen (hopefully also critical thinkers that will help to spot any issues in it and fix them). That's how progress works. The thing's old as world.
As for sets - yup, put them on, slot taunt, and you can try tanking. Doesn't make you essential though, any DPS will do that instead of "diva tank", and with less whining and fewer attempts to kick people. Beats me why would I need such a troublesome tank if I or one of guildies can put those sets on for pledges. And guess what, I'll even be packing and rooting trash, taunting heavy-hitters, keeping crusher and weakening uptime and, oh miracle, won't be complaining about damage. So no, that has nothing to do with critical thinking and going "own way". Not like such tank is trying to accomplish something.
Oh, and "but I'm super survivable because I was the last man standing" isn't a solid argument either, because, for all one knows, a tank may be the last to die because some untaunted heavy hitters or uninterrupted boss first have taken out the healer and damage dealers. Being the last man standing isn't always a sign of being good at one's job.
Then, do it. Lets see u put youre theory to the test. I mean, I can do the same. Just throw on some dps gear, dots and thow on elemental weapon as spam, and voila, easy youtube build. Oh wait, did that already.
I also have a healers.
Youre not special because u are dps.
And dps is a dime a dozen.
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Lab3360✭✭✭✭✭I find it funny, some of you are ol with only dps be ok to wear 2 or 3 full role sets.
But the tank and healer cannot.
Im thankful I have endgame guilds who are not so closed minded.
There are a lot more people who are open minded than than copy and past dogmatics.
There is more than 1 way.
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Lab3360✭✭✭✭✭I have a
I wish. Before the first pull they said "ice tanks are useless"
He responded with "I've done this a bunch of times, I'm even wearing the title now"
They said no and kicked him.
Its not even that uncommon of a build,
Snb front, staff back.
Thats how ridiculous it has gotten. The swollen head of some these people.
Youtube Builds d Damage Control.
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Lab3360✭✭✭✭✭Haashhtaag wrote: »I run builds I find on Yt and find them to be great and it allows me to never die when PVPing. In PvE these Yt builds make me top DPs so please continue to use YT builds and hit that like and subscribe button.
Lol. You get an "Awaeome" for that one.0
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