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Ice Nixad, Why so Grinch?
TimeViewer
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Seriously??? 300 gems??? so what we have to buy a couple hundred dollars in crates, FAIL over and over getting potions that give us nearly no gems back just to get this thing? Who priced this stuff? Scrooge McDuck?
And how about an answer and not just deleting these questions claiming their bashing please
And how about an answer and not just deleting these questions claiming their bashing please
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TheMythicDawn✭✭✭✭✭just like the pumpkin netch its way too expensive for what is being offered
it looks like they are thinking of the players that are sitting on 10k crown gems when figuring this pricing and saying screw you to the other 99.9%8 -
TheMythicDawn✭✭✭✭✭Oakmontowls_ESO wrote: »I mean they could have made them rng only
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arena25✭✭✭✭✭Hey, OP:
The reason the other threads were likely deleted (and I did not see them, so I don't know what the other threads exactly said) was because they were written in a way that made them sound like a bait/troll.
Here's a way to respectfully ask the question:
"I do not understand why the Ice Nixad collectible is priced as high as it is. Would someone please explain what the rationale behind the high gem price was?"
And to answer your question, the high price point was probably because they knew it was going to be very popular to people, so they needed to raise the price cos of supply and demand.
It's like being a sales manager for, say, a hotel. If your hotel is selling a lot of rooms, pretty soon you'll either be oversold on rooms OR corporate is going to scream you're losing money for the hotel because you're not raising the room rate. As a result, you raise the price to gain more profit, which is the goal of any business: Make a profit.
It's the same story here for the Ice Nixad pet.If you can't handle the heat...stay out of the kitchen!2 -
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✭Hey, OP:
And to answer your question, the high price point was probably because they knew it was going to be very popular to people, so they needed to raise the price cos of supply and demand.
This doesn't make any sense. Supply and Demand? They don't stop releasing this pet after X amount of people buy it. No, there is an infinite amount of supply for this pet as long as it's in the crown store. The reason it costs so much is because THEY CAN CHARGE THAT MUCH
Edited by Donny_Vito on December 13, 2018 7:37PM12 -
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TimeViewer✭✭✭✭1st off don't get me wrong, I've got nothing against the company making money, but the cost of these are highly exclusionary. The supply and demand, as pointed out, doesn't hold water. There is no warehouse with limited supplies, the argument, I'm sorry, is utter garbage.
A few people may be able to afford it, all the power to you, I would have liked to, It, and the mounts, would have gone well in the Snowglobe home I bought, with the New Life furnishing pack I plan on buying. I do support buying things, I own 22 homes and buy all the furnishing packs as they come out but seeing something like this so over priced is just disheartening. It can also have the opposite effect, sure you may sell a few to a couple of people for XX amount and made a few bucks but it could have been sold at a lower price to a lot more people generating even more income.
As far as my comment about having a thread removed, I had made a little joke about birds and cheap. Sorry but forums are suppose to be an open discussion, and sometimes criticism which can (hopefully) improve the customer's experience and relationship with the company, use of overly heavy handed tactics only produces the opposite.1 -
huntgod_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭I bought the pumpkin netch...but in fairness that is because I wasn't paying attention and thought it was 200 crowns. Had I realized it was gems I would not have purchased it. It is a wonderfully derpy pet though.
I now pay closer attention to those things :-)
And the cost on the cat and nixad are ridiculous.--- HuntGod ---
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emilyhyoyeon✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I still have hope for frost atronach mounts. If there were more ice cosmetics I think one really exclusive mount/pet isn't that bad, assuming the gem price is only there to keep it exclusiveIGN @ emilypumpkin
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✭✭TheMythicDawn wrote: »Oakmontowls_ESO wrote: »I mean they could have made them rng only
lol don't give them ideas
They kind of have with the random number of gems you get from crates.0 -
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✭✭✭Because they know there are completionists who do whatever they can to get any piece of content in the game. Those whales will buy tons of crates, hoping they get duplicates to get some gems. I think it's well calculated they will earn more dollars before christmas this way then if it was like 100 gems (as most people would already have that and got the pet for free).
I mean, we already can get the ice-skin for free and some furniture. It's not like they don't give us anything for christmas. And for Richie Rich they also added a ice-sabre tooth if daddy wants to pull out his creditcard.
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✭✭✭✭Right? I just can't even consider getting it, I don't have that kind of gems sitting around, and buying crown crates is a silly way to get gems as you can't rely on getting anything worth more than 1 gem at a time (and dyes are still not fixed to be traded in).0 -
ccfeeling✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭bought once crown crates , potions , poisons , exp scrolls , all are junks .
I don't even open the free crates as well , no doubt , nothing good drop .
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✭✭Yeah, I also got baited once and bought one crate pack for 5000. Felt so scammed afterwards. This low tier junk that's falling out of them, well, nobody wants it. Nobody buys crates thinking "I hope I'll get some nice potions and scrolls". If there wasn't any junk like that and instead you could get random gem drop from time to time it would be far less frustrating. I understand that they have to make money but you can do that in a manner thats more respectful to the customer base. If the prices weren't that steep, if the microtransactions really were "micro" I'm sure more people would have bought this stuff and in the end Zeni would still make decent money out of it. Right now many people do feel exploited. And this in game currency "bought" (well, more like drawn to be exact since it's random) for in game currency which in turn is bought for real money is just unfair and downright shady. People have every right to complain and I'm baffled that some forum users defend this predatory tactics that Zenimax uses. If the system was changed to a more customer friendly one they would benefit from it too."I bear the cruel weight of certainty. Total, absolute, relentless certainty. People rarely comprehend the luxury of doubt... the freedom that comes with indecision. I envy you."
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Jamdarius✭✭✭✭✭Hey, OP:
The reason the other threads were likely deleted (and I did not see them, so I don't know what the other threads exactly said) was because they were written in a way that made them sound like a bait/troll.
Here's a way to respectfully ask the question:
"I do not understand why the Ice Nixad collectible is priced as high as it is. Would someone please explain what the rationale behind the high gem price was?"
And to answer your question, the high price point was probably because they knew it was going to be very popular to people, so they needed to raise the price cos of supply and demand.
It's like being a sales manager for, say, a hotel. If your hotel is selling a lot of rooms, pretty soon you'll either be oversold on rooms OR corporate is going to scream you're losing money for the hotel because you're not raising the room rate. As a result, you raise the price to gain more profit, which is the goal of any business: Make a profit.
It's the same story here for the Ice Nixad pet.
Popular with people? I guess ye if you mean it as a hot topic on forums
Supply and demand? I saw maybe 2-3 players with that pet and everyone else says it is way 2 overpriced ...
Do not get me wrong I managed to farm a lot of free crown gems, even bought for gold from friend crates as a gift but I paid 450k gold for 5 crates just so i can get ~35 gems (I wanted clockwork city pet for 100 gems). Now according to my calculations based on past experiences with crown crates I usually get 5-7 (sometimes 10) gems / crate, that means to get NIXAD PET i would need 43-60 crates (30 if super lucky)...
I rly want the law to be changed so that such obvious way of gambling in games is banned or at least ZOS changed it's mindset... If the pet would be for ~2k crowns I would buy it immediatly, fair pricing and I know what I buy without some RNG lootbox need OR I would understand the crown pet pricing for gems be so high if they would still give us free crates during events/daily logins/crate introductions as I would not mind buying missing gems crates - and no, do not even try to defend them with Twitch Drops as the chance for free crate from drops got so low it is not worth our time.Edited by Jamdarius on December 19, 2018 10:54AM0 -
Mr_Walker✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I'm obviously not the target audience because I didn't even know there was an ice nixad pet.
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Tipsy✭✭✭Hey, OP:
And to answer your question, the high price point was probably because they knew it was going to be very popular to people, so they needed to raise the price cos of supply and demand.
It's like being a sales manager for, say, a hotel. If your hotel is selling a lot of rooms, pretty soon you'll either be oversold on rooms OR corporate is going to scream you're losing money for the hotel because you're not raising the room rate. As a result, you raise the price to gain more profit, which is the goal of any business: Make a profit.
It's the same story here for the Ice Nixad pet.
the only difference is that a hotel room is something tangible
and these pets are some pixels that can be generated infinitely.
So you can't really compare it to hotel room being oversold
The Ice nixad is pretty and all ,but this whole practice is rather off-putting and disgusting
I can't believe people would even atttempt to justify a price tag of 300 gems
Edited by Tipsy on December 19, 2018 1:48PMhttps://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/462527/champion-of-the-gods-deadra-worship-cp-to-next-level
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JaZ2091✭✭✭✭✭Not gonna lie, if I had a business I would love customers who drop hundreds for a cheap reskin lol.0
