eovogtb16_ESO wrote: »If he used fossilize once, that Magplar would be dead.
UltimateBias wrote: »eovogtb16_ESO wrote: »If he used fossilize once, that Magplar would be dead.
I doubt that. Fossilizing DK's have been dealt with by Doom many times. They all died.
Not to mention that Fossilize would only succeed in activating the full measure of Dooms defenses.
Edit: Of course, if you are on ps4 NA Vivec, you could jump on your own DK and give Doom a demonstration of how done.
Brutusmax1mus wrote: »UltimateBias wrote: »eovogtb16_ESO wrote: »If he used fossilize once, that Magplar would be dead.
I doubt that. Fossilizing DK's have been dealt with by Doom many times. They all died.
Not to mention that Fossilize would only succeed in activating the full measure of Dooms defenses.
Edit: Of course, if you are on ps4 NA Vivec, you could jump on your own DK and give Doom a demonstration of how done.
Are you volunteering doom to fight people? Have you spoken with him about it?
eovogtb16_ESO wrote: »He was completely out of stam almost the entire fight, if he was cc'd there would be no coming out of it.
Metemsycosis wrote: »And what reverb isn't the absolute best cc against a magicka Templar?
@UltimateBias
That duel exactly showed, where Dooms build is lacking. Just compare the amount of healing both had to do for staying in the duel:
Doom overcasted both rapid regen and ritual of retribution, also his entire rotation was pretty much the following: rapid regen, ritual, heavy attack, honor the dead, heavy attack honor the dead and then start again. The damage Doom did to Shady was non-existent. Shady had to pop vigor only when Doom went for his soul assault and then Shady had to cast it once.
By Doom not dealing damage at all, Shady was able to neglect healing (momentum healed enough as long as no soul assault was used) completely and only had to worry about his buffs, the debuffs on Doom and his damage.
To be fair, Doom had zero chance of winning this fight and Shady just got bored by fighting a healbot (that is how you call somebody, who uses honor the dead two times per rotation and deals no damage).
In summary, this build either just stays alive by overcasting healing, heavy attacks and honor the dead. But the damage potential is almost non-existent and is barely enough to kill really bad players.
UltimateBias wrote: »@UltimateBias
That duel exactly showed, where Dooms build is lacking. Just compare the amount of healing both had to do for staying in the duel:
Doom overcasted both rapid regen and ritual of retribution, also his entire rotation was pretty much the following: rapid regen, ritual, heavy attack, honor the dead, heavy attack honor the dead and then start again. The damage Doom did to Shady was non-existent. Shady had to pop vigor only when Doom went for his soul assault and then Shady had to cast it once.
By Doom not dealing damage at all, Shady was able to neglect healing (momentum healed enough as long as no soul assault was used) completely and only had to worry about his buffs, the debuffs on Doom and his damage.
To be fair, Doom had zero chance of winning this fight and Shady just got bored by fighting a healbot (that is how you call somebody, who uses honor the dead two times per rotation and deals no damage).
In summary, this build either just stays alive by overcasting healing, heavy attacks and honor the dead. But the damage potential is almost non-existent and is barely enough to kill really bad players.
I can agree to a degree; damage dealing isn't the builds strength.
But in all fairness, Jabs were broken at this point in time, so Doom couldn't use them to attack as he normally would.
UltimateBias wrote: »@UltimateBias
That duel exactly showed, where Dooms build is lacking. Just compare the amount of healing both had to do for staying in the duel:
Doom overcasted both rapid regen and ritual of retribution, also his entire rotation was pretty much the following: rapid regen, ritual, heavy attack, honor the dead, heavy attack honor the dead and then start again. The damage Doom did to Shady was non-existent. Shady had to pop vigor only when Doom went for his soul assault and then Shady had to cast it once.
By Doom not dealing damage at all, Shady was able to neglect healing (momentum healed enough as long as no soul assault was used) completely and only had to worry about his buffs, the debuffs on Doom and his damage.
To be fair, Doom had zero chance of winning this fight and Shady just got bored by fighting a healbot (that is how you call somebody, who uses honor the dead two times per rotation and deals no damage).
In summary, this build either just stays alive by overcasting healing, heavy attacks and honor the dead. But the damage potential is almost non-existent and is barely enough to kill really bad players.
I can agree to a degree; damage dealing isn't the builds strength.
But in all fairness, Jabs were broken at this point in time, so Doom couldn't use them to attack as he normally would.
Jabs were only broken in the sense, that you could not spam the button without a delay between jabs. But with adding a weave between two jabs, that was prevented. Therefore stating jabs were broken and that is why he could not go all out is a bad excuse.
UltimateBias wrote: »I've got a good 1v1 of Doom vs one of the best players on ps4 na (elusiveshady), and this is back from when jabs was broken and couldnt be spammed properly.
Given he couldnt attack as he wanted, it does showcase the power of stacking HoT's on a Magplar (at times there are as many as four going at the same time) and the ability to absorb alot of punishment without sword and board/frost staff:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FEr9Pa0l9U&t=3s
Mrsinister2 wrote: »UltimateBias wrote: »I've got a good 1v1 of Doom vs one of the best players on ps4 na (elusiveshady), and this is back from when jabs was broken and couldnt be spammed properly.
Given he couldnt attack as he wanted, it does showcase the power of stacking HoT's on a Magplar (at times there are as many as four going at the same time) and the ability to absorb alot of punishment without sword and board/frost staff:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FEr9Pa0l9U&t=3s
do you only have like 2 attacks on your bars?
So much resto
UltimateBias wrote: »Mrsinister2 wrote: »UltimateBias wrote: »I've got a good 1v1 of Doom vs one of the best players on ps4 na (elusiveshady), and this is back from when jabs was broken and couldnt be spammed properly.
Given he couldnt attack as he wanted, it does showcase the power of stacking HoT's on a Magplar (at times there are as many as four going at the same time) and the ability to absorb alot of punishment without sword and board/frost staff:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FEr9Pa0l9U&t=3s
do you only have like 2 attacks on your bars?
So much resto
Yeah, it was alot of Healing; most of which was HoT's.
Watch the fight again, but do nothing other than look at Dooms Healing numbers; IMHO its pretty impressive considering that Major Defile was in effect most of the time.
And some laugh at the strategy, but I have found it works well; most opponents wear themselves out trying to get this builds Health low and they are burning Resources themselves doing so.
When Sweeps is functioning properly, you can (at the right moment; you'll know when your offensive window is open) go all out offensively and blitz your opponent to death.
There is some video on YouTube where Doom does exactly that to opponents after Sweeps were fixed.
But anyway, enough about that.
Mrsinister2 wrote: »UltimateBias wrote: »Mrsinister2 wrote: »UltimateBias wrote: »I've got a good 1v1 of Doom vs one of the best players on ps4 na (elusiveshady), and this is back from when jabs was broken and couldnt be spammed properly.
Given he couldnt attack as he wanted, it does showcase the power of stacking HoT's on a Magplar (at times there are as many as four going at the same time) and the ability to absorb alot of punishment without sword and board/frost staff:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FEr9Pa0l9U&t=3s
do you only have like 2 attacks on your bars?
So much resto
Yeah, it was alot of Healing; most of which was HoT's.
Watch the fight again, but do nothing other than look at Dooms Healing numbers; IMHO its pretty impressive considering that Major Defile was in effect most of the time.
And some laugh at the strategy, but I have found it works well; most opponents wear themselves out trying to get this builds Health low and they are burning Resources themselves doing so.
When Sweeps is functioning properly, you can (at the right moment; you'll know when your offensive window is open) go all out offensively and blitz your opponent to death.
There is some video on YouTube where Doom does exactly that to opponents after Sweeps were fixed.
But anyway, enough about that.
The healing was good but you had no Stam the entire fight and were constantly low on mag. If it works for you tho keep at it man I'm sure you kill plenty of bowtards with that build.
UltimateBias wrote: »Brutusmax1mus wrote: »UltimateBias wrote: »eovogtb16_ESO wrote: »If he used fossilize once, that Magplar would be dead.
I doubt that. Fossilizing DK's have been dealt with by Doom many times. They all died.
Not to mention that Fossilize would only succeed in activating the full measure of Dooms defenses.
Edit: Of course, if you are on ps4 NA Vivec, you could jump on your own DK and give Doom a demonstration of how done.
Are you volunteering doom to fight people? Have you spoken with him about it?
I'm sure he wouldn't mind.
Afterall, this guy acts like he knows it all and he calls Shady 'terrible' which we both know is definitely not true.
With that being the case, I have no doubt Doom would happily fight him.
Edit: I have no doubt that it would be extremely easy to persuade Shady to fight him as well; especially after finding out that this guy says he sucks.
Do you agree?
Brutusmax1mus wrote: »UltimateBias wrote: »Brutusmax1mus wrote: »UltimateBias wrote: »eovogtb16_ESO wrote: »If he used fossilize once, that Magplar would be dead.
I doubt that. Fossilizing DK's have been dealt with by Doom many times. They all died.
Not to mention that Fossilize would only succeed in activating the full measure of Dooms defenses.
Edit: Of course, if you are on ps4 NA Vivec, you could jump on your own DK and give Doom a demonstration of how done.
Are you volunteering doom to fight people? Have you spoken with him about it?
I'm sure he wouldn't mind.
Afterall, this guy acts like he knows it all and he calls Shady 'terrible' which we both know is definitely not true.
With that being the case, I have no doubt Doom would happily fight him.
Edit: I have no doubt that it would be extremely easy to persuade Shady to fight him as well; especially after finding out that this guy says he sucks.
Do you agree?
I think you should stop pretending not to be doom, weirdo.
UltimateBias wrote: »Brutusmax1mus wrote: »UltimateBias wrote: »Brutusmax1mus wrote: »UltimateBias wrote: »eovogtb16_ESO wrote: »If he used fossilize once, that Magplar would be dead.
I doubt that. Fossilizing DK's have been dealt with by Doom many times. They all died.
Not to mention that Fossilize would only succeed in activating the full measure of Dooms defenses.
Edit: Of course, if you are on ps4 NA Vivec, you could jump on your own DK and give Doom a demonstration of how done.
Are you volunteering doom to fight people? Have you spoken with him about it?
I'm sure he wouldn't mind.
Afterall, this guy acts like he knows it all and he calls Shady 'terrible' which we both know is definitely not true.
With that being the case, I have no doubt Doom would happily fight him.
Edit: I have no doubt that it would be extremely easy to persuade Shady to fight him as well; especially after finding out that this guy says he sucks.
Do you agree?
I think you should stop pretending not to be doom, weirdo.
I think you should stop obsessing over Doom.
Unless you encounter him ingame, your dealings with him are over.
Brutusmax1mus wrote: »UltimateBias wrote: »Brutusmax1mus wrote: »UltimateBias wrote: »Brutusmax1mus wrote: »UltimateBias wrote: »eovogtb16_ESO wrote: »If he used fossilize once, that Magplar would be dead.
I doubt that. Fossilizing DK's have been dealt with by Doom many times. They all died.
Not to mention that Fossilize would only succeed in activating the full measure of Dooms defenses.
Edit: Of course, if you are on ps4 NA Vivec, you could jump on your own DK and give Doom a demonstration of how done.
Are you volunteering doom to fight people? Have you spoken with him about it?
I'm sure he wouldn't mind.
Afterall, this guy acts like he knows it all and he calls Shady 'terrible' which we both know is definitely not true.
With that being the case, I have no doubt Doom would happily fight him.
Edit: I have no doubt that it would be extremely easy to persuade Shady to fight him as well; especially after finding out that this guy says he sucks.
Do you agree?
I think you should stop pretending not to be doom, weirdo.
I think you should stop obsessing over Doom.
Unless you encounter him ingame, your dealings with him are over.
They should be, but he's currently skating through a forum ban by pretending to be someone else.
You should stop speaking on dooms behalf.
Oh look, yet another magplar thread gone off the rails thanks to @TheDoomsdayMonster.
*pretends to be shocked*
UltimateBias wrote: »I've got a good 1v1 of Doom vs one of the best players on ps4 na (elusiveshady), and this is back from when jabs was broken and couldnt be spammed properly.
Given he couldnt attack as he wanted, it does showcase the power of stacking HoT's on a Magplar (at times there are as many as four going at the same time) and the ability to absorb alot of punishment without sword and board/frost staff:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FEr9Pa0l9U&t=3s
I wouldn't suggest new templars to run double radiant magelight. In that duel, it would have been better had you run 2 dmg abilties.
I also wouldn't suggest running mostly hots for defense. They don't scale outnumbered and your stam pool wont let you break free more than once or twice.
What I see is mostly a healer build trying to duel a tanky DK. I am surprised they gave up so easily.
UltimateBias wrote: »I've got a good 1v1 of Doom vs one of the best players on ps4 na (elusiveshady), and this is back from when jabs was broken and couldnt be spammed properly.
Given he couldnt attack as he wanted, it does showcase the power of stacking HoT's on a Magplar (at times there are as many as four going at the same time) and the ability to absorb alot of punishment without sword and board/frost staff:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FEr9Pa0l9U&t=3s
Did you just post a video of a stalled out 1v1 set to the tune of Duel of Fates? While still referring to yourself in the third person? Lmao.
I don't think you get it man. Literally no one in the history of ESO has doubted the ability of the Magplar to stay alive. Its very easy to be able to build tanky and hit like a wet noodle. Heal bots across the world do it daily. The challenging and interesting part about Magplar, and what this thread and the other one you derailed are investigating, is how to be survivable while also maintaining lethal force and being competitive with other classes in terms of damage output.
Whatever you're doing, that ain't it chief.