Zenimax and cheaters

Arioco396 · December 2018

Lately the cheaters in the game are proliferating, players that could finish them alone any trial in veteran mode.
I have read in this forum a comment from Zenimax, justifying itself, saying that there have always been people who cheat. In my opinion, this comment is quite childish and lacking in argument.
For those who do not know what a cheater is, I comment a little, players who ignore the adversary's armor, regenerate all their lives constantly, immune to everything, infinite stamina and magic ....
Let's see, these players, are easily detectable by Zenimax, therefore I do not see any logic to understand that Zenimax, allows the game to these players
Gentlemen of Zenimax, you are finishing yourselves with the game, and most importantly the negative publicity that my company is giving to my understanding: ZENIMAX JUSTIFIES THE CHEATERS.
I have verified that every time I face these players, the combat bug appears as a 2 minute round, resuscitate or wins ...

I hope you take it as a constructive criticism, it's your business and you know what you want to get from it ..
But for me it is very clear, it does not matter to be a cheater.

Best regards

Taylor_MB · December 2018

Video please.

(with names blanked, of course)

idk · December 2018

That is a lot of empty words. Not even a mention of what they are doing that is considered cheating.

Bouldercleave · December 2018

I have neither seen or even heard of anyone soloing vet trials. You need proof of this very provocative accusation.

Arioco396 · December 2018

I'm not going to bother to replicate any comments, about what everyone who plays pvp knows. As Freud said: everyone understands what they want to understand.
to finish my, from the point of psychology, I am a graduate in psychology, anyone who defends or justifies has something to hide

Taylor_MB · December 2018

Arioco396 wrote: »

I'm not going to bother to replicate any comments, about what everyone who plays pvp knows. As Freud said: everyone understands what they want to understand.
to finish my, from the point of psychology, I am a graduate in psychology, anyone who defends or justifies has something to hide

"I expect you to believe without proof. If you disagree with me or ask for evidence then you are obviously the people I am talking about."

Elsonso · December 2018

Arioco396 wrote: »

I'm not going to bother to replicate any comments, about what everyone who plays pvp knows. As Freud said: everyone understands what they want to understand.
to finish my, from the point of psychology, I am a graduate in psychology, anyone who defends or justifies has something to hide

Defending against a false accusation does not mean that they have something to hide.

starkerealm · December 2018

Bouldercleave wrote: »

I have neither seen or even heard of anyone soloing vet trials. You need proof of this very provocative accusation.

I kinda remember someone doing a solo AA clear back in 2014. But, soloing trials? I'm dubious of that claim.

Arioco396 wrote: »

I'm not going to bother to replicate any comments, about what everyone who plays pvp knows. As Freud said: everyone understands what they want to understand.
to finish my, from the point of psychology, I am a graduate in psychology, anyone who defends or justifies has something to hide

Lovely. "I don't have to offer a position, because, 'everyone knows,'" combined with, "anyone who opposes me must also support beating their children."

It's like if you decided, "everyone knows, space lizards secretly run the BMV, and the only people who'd say, 'that's stupid' are secretly space lizards in disguise."

Right.

Riverlynn · December 2018

Arioco396 wrote: »

I am a graduate in psychology, anyone who defends or justifies has something to hide

This psychology course you graduated from...was it online by any chance?

Arioco396 · December 2018

everyone understands what they want to understand.

Taylor_MB · December 2018

Arioco396 wrote: »

everyone understands what they want to understand.

Apply this to yourself... introspective can be very informative.

Acrolas · December 2018

Just a quick update for everyone regarding the recent influx of those using third party tools to cheat in ESO. We've adjusted our automatic anti-cheat systems to focus specifically on the cheats we've seen in the last few days, in addition to launching investigations on specific players. We've permanently banned 43 players in the last 24 hours who were found to be cheating. We don't take cheating lightly, and will continue to ban those who are found to be cheating. We'll be going back through game logs to identify players who were violating our anti-cheating policies in the hours before we performed the automatic cheat detection adjustment.

In addition, we're working on a number of fixes and improvements to prevent this kind of behavior from happening in ESO in the future. We'll provide more specific details about this tomorrow.

We want to thank everyone who has helped us identify those who would ruin your game experience by cheating, and the means by which they were doing so.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/3023650/#Comment_3023650

Soooooo... what exactly was OP looking at?

starkerealm · December 2018

Acrolas wrote: »

Soooooo... what exactly was OP looking at?

They were understanding what they wanted to understand.

starkerealm · December 2018

Riverlynn wrote: »

Arioco396 wrote: »

I am a graduate in psychology, anyone who defends or justifies has something to hide

This psychology course you graduated from...was it online by any chance?

So, from someone who was actually awake in their psych classes, if you see someone cite Freud for any kind of rational thought, run. He has some minor value as a historical footnote, maybe in a philosophy class, but in psych? Nope. Guy was bonkers.

Bouldercleave · December 2018

Arioco396 wrote: »

I'm not going to bother to replicate any comments, about what everyone who plays pvp knows. As Freud said: everyone understands what they want to understand.
to finish my, from the point of psychology, I am a graduate in psychology, anyone who defends or justifies has something to hide

Your first statement claimed people soloing vet trials and this comment references PvP cheating which has been addressed a LONG time ago.

Without proof of CURRENT cheating activities, your argument and entire point is moot. I'll see your psychology degree and up the ante with a Masters in Electronic Engineering with a minor in Business.

Do you see now how meaningless your education is to the discussion? Your educational background (and mine) mean less than nothing in a discussion on an online game forum.

Arioco396 · December 2018

No offense to offend learn to read: players that could finish them alone any trial

Elsonso · December 2018

Acrolas wrote: »

Just a quick update for everyone regarding the recent influx of those using third party tools to cheat in ESO. We've adjusted our automatic anti-cheat systems to focus specifically on the cheats we've seen in the last few days, in addition to launching investigations on specific players. We've permanently banned 43 players in the last 24 hours who were found to be cheating. We don't take cheating lightly, and will continue to ban those who are found to be cheating. We'll be going back through game logs to identify players who were violating our anti-cheating policies in the hours before we performed the automatic cheat detection adjustment.

In addition, we're working on a number of fixes and improvements to prevent this kind of behavior from happening in ESO in the future. We'll provide more specific details about this tomorrow.

We want to thank everyone who has helped us identify those who would ruin your game experience by cheating, and the means by which they were doing so.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/3023650/#Comment_3023650

Soooooo... what exactly was OP looking at?

Wow. I remember that. I wonder if they still have that "automatic anti-cheat system" and when they last used it. My guess is that it was turned off shortly after they used it for that ban wave and it hasn't been effectively used since. Otherwise, there would be a lot more people complaining about unwarranted bans. It's been a while since I saw a good "Wah! I was falsely banned for cheating!" thread.

But, I do agree with your point. Unless the OP can produce a link to the statement where ZOS dismissed cheating, it didn't happen. I certainly do not recall anything of the sort.

ZOS_JesC · December 2018

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