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She nailed it

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  • kojou
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    Lol I was going to post this too...

    It summarizes everything I feel about the game right now too.
    Playing since beta...
  • frostz417
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    This is the most truth ever
  • chaz
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    I love every word of the truth.

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  • AcadianPaladin
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    Should be required watching for devs.
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  • Vapirko
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    Should be required watching for devs.

    I guarantee they’re aware of all of this. There’s no way they can’t be. They’ve definitely chosen to willfully ignore a lot of player feedback.
  • Ragnarock41
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    Should be required watching for devs.

    I'm pretty sure they are fully aware of these issues but probably have no power to change things.
  • fred4
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    The player who made that video has been one of the most toxic I've encountered in 3 years of ESO, and I'm talking about the rare two or three occasions that were genuinely upsetting. They sound disenchanted with the game. Should they decide to quit, all I can say is good luck and good riddance.
  • Reverb
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    I honestly cannot refute a word of this.

    This is a very clear and truthful explanation of the problems in ESO, all of which have been created by the dev team and their short sightedness. The monetization team has a clear, long term strategic vision, whereas the combat and PvP teams seem to be playing an odd combo of Go Fish and Jenga with their changes.
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  • Ragnarock41
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    fred4 wrote: »
    The player who made that video has been one of the most toxic I've encountered in 3 years of ESO, and I'm talking about the rare two or three occasions that were genuinely upsetting. They sound disenchanted with the game. Should they decide to quit, all I can say is good luck and good riddance.

    Doesn't change the fact that she is speaking the truth, and to me thats all that matters, not the person saying it.
  • mague
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    Love the "greek tavern" sound in the background :)

    The game really turned up to Summersend, then into endless darkness and is now back in the swamp. Literally.

    I dont agree with anything. Murkmire is ok. Its just to easy and then the long travels turn into boredom. Sethis dungeon would have been nice if uncontested and at a normal difficulty.

    I do agree into the whole healer, PvP and whatelse topics. I would like to add the useless negates and the fact that a PvP hit of 800 damage with a stun is virtually a oneshot mechanism. I watch my HP melt with offline USB gamepad. I dont die because they outnumber my heal pool or block pool. I die because their build has a 75% change of putting the enemies USB offline. As it is it doesnt matter if i have 11k or 50k health. Just kill fast and hard and respawn when dead. Its a simple survivability <-> dps model where you put the slider to that point that fits your skills. If you dont want to play that role you are sub par and just canon fodder. This has nothing to do with git gud.

    Allover i am having smirks when i see that they create problems and then offer solution. Why ? Why this fake diversity ?

    The "patch plan" is known from other games and speaks for MMO vets its own language. Lets see where this really is going to.
    Edited by mague on December 3, 2018 1:26PM
  • Merlin13KAGL
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    Maybe, but however wonderful or on point this video may be, things like this with zero context or summary come across as farming views. Give people a reason to want to watch, beyond "Here's a video."
    Just because you don't like the way something is doesn't necessarily make it wrong...

    Earn it.

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    I am neither warm, nor fuzzy...
    Probably has checkbox on Customer Service profile that say High Aggro, 99% immunity to BS
  • Reverb
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    Maybe, but however wonderful or on point this video may be, things like this with zero context or summary come across as farming views. Give people a reason to want to watch, beyond "Here's a video."

    The video itself is incidental to the narrative, which needs no context.
    Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. ~Friedrich Nietzsche
  • Narvuntien
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    I agree with some things and not with others.

    Its the Ship of Theseus right? the if you replace every plank is it the same ship. Honestly, I feel like we are still in the process of replacing the planks because the game has soo many hangovers from when it was a different game, with level scaling and rigid class roles.

    I am nowhere as negative with the game as a whole as this video is, I still see a positive although very slow improvement, not a slide at all.

    But I do agree they need to sit down and take a good long hard look at their game and devise an overarching vision for the game's combat and content. They seem very reactive and not premeditated.
  • Merlin13KAGL
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    Reverb wrote: »
    Maybe, but however wonderful or on point this video may be, things like this with zero context or summary come across as farming views. Give people a reason to want to watch, beyond "Here's a video."

    The video itself is incidental to the narrative, which needs no context.
    @Reverb, I'm referring more to the post, which might see the video have more views simply by knowing a bit more of what's inside, or even who authored it. You have to get people to go there first. Presently, you have to open the box to see what's in the box.

    I still intend to watch it when I have the chance.

    Edited by Merlin13KAGL on December 3, 2018 2:09PM
    Just because you don't like the way something is doesn't necessarily make it wrong...

    Earn it.

    IRL'ing for a while for assorted reasons, in forum, and in game.
    I am neither warm, nor fuzzy...
    Probably has checkbox on Customer Service profile that say High Aggro, 99% immunity to BS
  • Emma_Overload
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    This tea is hot!
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  • HappyLittleTree
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    I think they should just remove PVP or seperate it.

    fixed
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  • Luthid
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    I think they should just remove PVP or seperate it.

    fixed

    Roughly 50% of the commentary in the video is about pve issues. Do you have any amazing words of wisdom to address those, or do you reserve your insight for pvp?
  • Stigant
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    Yeah... she is right about some stuff indeed...
    but than she goes on 5 minute rant on "Nightblade OP + Stam OP" while making you watch old Mag Sorc gameplay stacking 2-3 shields...
    Not to mention she is quite off about CP BGs... those were disaster as far as I remember, would never go back to those.

    So nothing new here, really

    Edit: just got to the point where she
    Tbags people ... let's talk about that as a problem ... disrespectful players being toxic in PvP enviroment that than talk about problems with PvP and how is PvP community slowly thinning out and new players tend to avoid PvP.
    Edited by Stigant on December 3, 2018 3:37PM
  • yodased
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    conjecture, rhetoric and opinion from a person who obviously enjoys the aspects of the game that make other players unhappy and enjoys the power they feel from reducing another players experience to the least enjoyable.

    "So many raiders have left the game because of magblade changes", "almost everyone worthwhile is gone because of murkmire nerfs" "Don't nerf overperforming classes or skills, bring the floor up so everyone can be stronger than intended"

    This type of rant is prevalent among people who enjoy a certain subset of gaming, notably using a game to dominate other players and feel good about themselves.

    If you hate it so much and you have evidence, (which you dont) that all the good players are leaving, why are you here? What possible solution could you imagine this video provides?

    You are the end all be all voice of 10,000,000 people while you play queen of the tower? Or farming people trying to get back into their bases?

    Go spend your time doing something you enjoy instead of trying to get this thing you are doing to morph into whatever version you are requesting.

    "Some of what I say is subjective, but most of it is general observations from the community" is probably paraphrased, but in general what you said.

    This is complete nonsense and you even thinking you represent 1% of the playerbase is giving you too much credit.

    You don't like it? Leave.
    Tl;dr really weigh the fun you have in game vs the business practices you are supporting.
  • Anotherone773
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    Originally i was going to add everything i thought was wrong to this, but i would need my own dedicated thread and also i would have to retire to have enough time to write. The ESO dev team is one of the worst ive encountered in two decades of playing MMOs. Its sad. The series is a great concept but its like a bunch of interns run this game.

    I can agree with this video on pretty much every point. PVP in any form in this game is a joke. I am a PVPer and have been since i first discovered the PVP concept back in the late 90s. Ive been a player of Eve for over a decade and spent most of that time living in nullsec. But PVP in this game is so horrible, i dont even bother. I run some token BGs for the AP i need and now for quick XP on occasion, but there is nothing fun about large scale pvp in this game and small scale pvp is only a necessary evil to me. I honestly didnt think someone could do PVP worse than Wow, and then i came here.

    The way ESO patches are implemented are horrible. I have noticed worse and worse performance with each patch while getting more and more bugs. That is when i can stay logged in. A few patches ago the game started randomly kicking me to login screen while playing. It gets worse with every new patch. I spend almost as much time logging in as i do playing some days.

    Patches are not properly tested, feedback from the community isnt asked for and when its given it is completely ignored most of the time. In the token instance in which it isnt ignored it leads to such a huge overreaction by ZOS that they end up doing more damage than good. Sure we have token class reps, but( sorry guys and gals) this is not Eve, class reps are no different than a politician telling you what you want to hear to get your vote than doing what they wanted. Those reps are nothing but a token gesture so ZOS can say " see but we listen to you guys, you have reps and everything!".

    The game overall is just very sloppy and not what i would consider a finished product. I use to spend $100 plus on Eve a month. I spend a couple of hundred now a month on games but i spend a measly $15 month on this game. And the only reason i spend that is because i refuse to play without a craft bag. I wont spend more because ZOS gets the bare minimum out of me and they actually dont even deserve that.

    It could just be poor management. Usually when a company like this just churns out stuff to buy without actually making a quality product it is, 9 times out of 10, poor management that has no business managing anything larger than a lemonade stand.
  • yodased
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    @Anotherone773 What I really would like to understand is if it's that bad and you have to write a dissertation on why and what is wrong with the game, in so much that 50% of your time is spent logging in and out and the game isn't a finished product.

    Why are you here? Why are you playing such a hot mess of a game that does everything you hate and makes you feel some kind of way.

    You understand you have a choice to not play a game you don't like right?
    Tl;dr really weigh the fun you have in game vs the business practices you are supporting.
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    No cp BGs are better. She is wrong at 1 thing, cp makes tanka and healers more OP than dps.
  • Anotherone773
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    @yodased I am not playing, i am on the forums. And it is unlikely you are capable of understanding, nor i am going to explain it to you since you are quite condescending and obviously very biased, but thanks for playing!

  • yodased
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    So you choose to visit and post on a forum of a game you dont like and dont play because reasons.

    Seems legit.
    Tl;dr really weigh the fun you have in game vs the business practices you are supporting.
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    I did not think mindreaders existed until I watched this video. She lists and explains the majority of issues I have with this game. It's refreshing hearing someone else reiterate the same pain points/suggestions as you, but at the same time it is disheartening because it reminds you that they are falling on deaf ears among the ZOS devs.
    Edited by Suddwrath on December 3, 2018 7:55PM
  • Mintaka5
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    I agree. Counterplay is awful in this game considering Cyrodiil PvP. I wish all meta min/max builds would get a temp ban until they build characters that no longer kill in under 10 seconds. Fight, don't just kill, run away, or take all the damage in the entire game, and still preserve over 90% health! I want the ability to spar, not just get melted in under a second to someone with a maxed out build. Enjoy a good fight even if I die, at least I got to experience a fight.

    Well done OP! Thanks for these enlightening facts.
  • code65536
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    Sounds about right.
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  • Galarthor
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    Seems everybody but ZOS identified the same issues this game has.

    ZOS probably thinks that the game is fine and players are jsut upset b/c there is not more stuff in the crown store :disappointed:
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    I actually laughed out loud when she's talking about how small-scale is dead, yet her and 1 other person are effectively fighting off a whole group of blues. Just seemed ironic.
  • Tommy_The_Gun
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    Agreed, well spoken, well spoken indeed OP.
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    Edited by Tommy_The_Gun on December 3, 2018 9:35PM
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