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ESO+ Free Crates - Might wanna update the free ESO+ banner guys

Itacira
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(unless you're making things purposefully "ambiguous" and by ambiguous I mean completely deceptive)
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  • Delpi
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    Yeah, I was thinking the same... Please? We need an answer.
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  • majulook
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    They changed their minds

    Edited by majulook on November 15, 2018 5:17PM
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  • ErinGoBrag520
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    It is really disappointing that we will not be getting the crates this time. What is the supposed reward for being a subscriber? The Molag Bal statuette? I would definitely rather have the crates!
  • Maryal
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    It is really disappointing that we will not be getting the crates this time. What is the supposed reward for being a subscriber? The Molag Bal statuette? I would definitely rather have the crates!

    That Molag Bal statuette was disappointing ... it's so small that it visually diminishes his 'badassness' and makes him appear rather wimpy.
  • Itacira
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    Idk, the Molag Ball small statuette is actually kinda cool for small houses. My orc would have loved to get such a statuette of Malacath to make a home altar out of it. BUT it doesn't counterbalance the loss of the free crates. Far from it.
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  • Ertosi
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    Yeah, that banner still being there certainly exacerbates the ESO+ reward changes.

    ZOS says the new rewards give us more value but math says otherwise. How in the world is a dinky figurine, a few extra crowns (enough to buy 1/3 a crate), and the privilege of getting to spend another $35 for a mount reskin more than the extra crates?
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  • Danikat
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    Ertosi wrote: »
    Yeah, that banner still being there certainly exacerbates the ESO+ reward changes.

    ZOS says the new rewards give us more value but math says otherwise. How in the world is a dinky figurine, a few extra crowns (enough to buy 1/3 a crate), and the privilege of getting to spend another $35 for a mount reskin more than the extra crates?

    I think they mean it will add up to more over time. So far we've only seen the November rewards, there will be additional ESO+ exclusives coming every month whereas the free crates during an ESO+ trial only happened 3 or 4 times a year.

    It's possible that like the login rewards they're starting small and ramping it up later on, or that the people who choose these things simply have different tastes to most players and thought a slightly discounted spider mount reskin and a Molag Bal statue would be exciting.
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  • greenmachine
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    The Crown Crates are free, after you pay for them.
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  • Fischblut
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    I really thought they listened to our feedback :/ It's sad... Maybe they will surprise subscribers with earned free crates at the end of ESO+ trial event? It's the only hope. Return our free crates please :/
    So far we've only seen the November rewards, there will be additional ESO+ exclusives coming every month whereas the free crates during an ESO+ trial only happened 3 or 4 times a year.

    Those subscriber crates gave us chances at cool items and guaranteed some amount of gems (lucky people even had Sweetrolls worth 400 gems each from free crates), which we then could accumulate and spend on items we like. They did nothing so far to replace it with something of equal value as "thank you" for having payed subscription while all non-subscribers will have a week of subscription for free. Of course not all people like crates, but at least it was gesture of appreciation from developers so it kept our mouth shut during such events and nobody complained - cause both subscribers and non-subscribers could get something nice during the event and nobody felt left out :) Well, some people complained about what they got from their free crates, but it's other story.

    Their new "benefits" of ESO+ do not sound exciting at all, how could they hope to make a good impression with these?.. Starting with laughable crowns increase per month (1800 extra crowns per year, while - for example - our "exclusive" spider mount is 3500 crowns at "exclusive" discount :D ) , tiny boring furnishing and - again - expensive mount recolor (not even some unique model never seen before). The mount is not even unique to subscribers, just slightly discounted for us during it's "early access" before everyone gets it at a higher price. Also everyone has different taste, and while I would love to have actual spider mount, I'm not interested in dwemer automata at all. I should be excited to have a chance to buy the mount I'm not interested in for 3500 crowns instead of collecting some guaranteed gems from bonus crates and get what I actually like... :'(

    What if instead of FREE ( :D ) tiny statue subscribers got, if we talk about furnishings, exclusive Target Dummy like Daedric Titan or Bone Dragon, or any fancy option (cause we have many creatures in game suitable for this)? And we could claim unlimited amount of them, place them in all our homes, even create an army of them if we wish. I would be very glad to have such thing as one of new benefits of being subscriber (it alone would not replace free crates though). And it would be something actually deserving to be called FREE in the article with pride - not just trying to make it sound exciting and failing :) I don't claim current tiny statue cause it's just offensive to even think about it compared to all the free gems and mounts/pets/costumes we could have from free crates :/
  • Lady_Scorp72
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    Yeah, it is disappointing because getting those 6 free crates all at once was fun! But, I doubt they'll change it. I'm guessing part of the reason they're removing the freebies and offering a 30% discount on outgoing crates, is to get data/numbers to gauge how much subscribers value the gem exclusive items.

    Up to now, it seems like a lot of us didn't buy (m)any crates, because we knew we'd get enough free ones to win (or earn enough gems to buy) at least one exclusive mount, pet, costume, furnishing etc per year. Now, if we want those exclusive items, we'll have to fork over the cash (or wait longer to earn them with the less frequent Twitch drops and daily reward crates). They're probably expecting to see an increase in subscribers buying crate bundles at 30% off, because people tend to want stuff ASAP.

    So far, I'm not impressed with the ESO+ subscriber perks being a small statue I won't use and the opportunity to pay just a bit less than a non-subscriber for a re-skinned mount, but it is what it is. ESO+ is still worth it, and I suppose this move could be seen as positive in that they're confident enough in their customer loyalty that they can withstand the backlash/disappointment changes like this are guaranteed to cause.
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    Itacira wrote: »
    @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_KaiSchober @ZOS_BillE @ZOS_GaryA (idk, sorry, I have no idea who does what)

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    (unless you're making things purposefully "ambiguous" and by ambiguous I mean completely deceptive)

    I am sure they will change it. However, by the time it goes through production review, gets prioritized, assigned to someone, done, tested by QA, and rolled out... this event will already be over. :neutral:
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