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Kadoin
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Dead-Water's Guile

(2 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage
(3 items) Adds 1206 Max Health
(4 items) Adds 1096 Maximum Stamina
(5 items) When an enemy dies within 2 seconds of being damaged by you, you gain 5 Ultimate.

Seriously, who authorized this? No concept or idea of balance.
  • Rain_Greyraven
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    meh I have seen worse.

    And it depends on what you are talking about in regards to balance...

    Balance in Trails?
    PVP?
    Questing?
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  • SirAndy
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    Balance in Trails?

    Very important, fall damage is no joke ...
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  • Swomp23
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    SirAndy wrote: »
    Balance in Trails?

    Very important, fall damage is no joke ...
    shades.gif

    I loled
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  • MartiniDaniels
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    Kadoin wrote: »
    Dead-Water's Guile

    (2 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage
    (3 items) Adds 1206 Max Health
    (4 items) Adds 1096 Maximum Stamina
    (5 items) When an enemy dies within 2 seconds of being damaged by you, you gain 5 Ultimate.

    Seriously, who authorized this? No concept or idea of balance.

    It's fun set and situational, majority of difficult bosses spawn only handful of mobs or none at all, so it helps for farming, for fast dealing with trash, but useless in real challenge.
  • WrathOfInnos
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    It only beats WW hide if you are getting a kill every 5s. That seems pretty unrealistic in PVP, and would only be good on trash fights in PVE.
  • Kadoin
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    It only beats WW hide if you are getting a kill every 5s. That seems pretty unrealistic in PVP, and would only be good on trash fights in PVE.

    Not in a ball :D
  • p00tx
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    It's a zerg-tato set. You just insanely spam light attack dmg out in any random direction, and when one of the 100 players near you kills something, you replenish your ult so you can keep spamming Eye of the Storm.
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  • MaxJrFTW
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    Looks very strong. I wonder how it works in vma, or the group arenas.
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  • thegreat_one
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    Yah, ball group plows through a pug zerg using ulti, by the time they are through it they have the ulti back up..


    I don't see why Zos is supporting the very thing that causes the insane server lag in Cyro. They have completely lost touch with the players.
  • zaria
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    SirAndy wrote: »
    Balance in Trails?

    Very important, fall damage is no joke ...
    shades.gif
    Vault of madness: No death run please, so you do the bridge ghost without AoE and I stay mostly on resto staff.
    Then splat :)
    Also Worthgar zone is to be closed down so they can put up some safety barriers.
    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • Cryptical
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    p00tx wrote: »
    It's a zerg-tato set. You just insanely spam light attack dmg out in any random direction, and when one of the 100 players near you kills something, you replenish your ult so you can keep spamming Eye of the Storm.

    PvP magplar. Ritual of retribution. Elemental ring. Balorg. Icy or fiery rage.
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  • Caligamy_ESO
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    Seems like it could be another fun set for Bloodspawn on tank builds to replace my broke ass Tava's with.
    love is love
  • Cillion3117
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    OMG!!! It's the end of the freaking world! Everybody run!!!!
  • Colecovision
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    My gut tells me if things are dying fast enough to use it, then you're probably fine without leaning on ultimates. Is there a video of someone abusing this?

    Is this just a distaction from the fact that us stam folk had to farm the crap out of bone pirates and mag gets it handed to them? Personally, I don't mind other kids having fun toys too. I'm just saying it happened.
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    zaria wrote: »
    SirAndy wrote: »
    Balance in Trails?

    Very important, fall damage is no joke ...
    shades.gif
    Vault of madness: No death run please, so you do the bridge ghost without AoE and I stay mostly on resto staff.
    Then splat :)
    Also Worthgar zone is to be closed down so they can put up some safety barriers.

    Wrothgar is the number ONE killer of my characters.
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    It may be useful for skyreach farm and meteor spam there xD
    Edited by Apherius on November 2, 2018 10:31PM
  • Tommy_The_Gun
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    Kadoin wrote: »
    Dead-Water's Guile

    (2 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage
    (3 items) Adds 1206 Max Health
    (4 items) Adds 1096 Maximum Stamina
    (5 items) When an enemy dies within 2 seconds of being damaged by you, you gain 5 Ultimate.

    Seriously, who authorized this? No concept or idea of balance.
    Pair that with Champion of the Hist Set:
    (2 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage
    (3 items) Adds 1096 Maximum Stamina
    (4 items) Adds 1096 Maximum Stamina
    (5 items) Gain Minor Heroism at all times while you are in combat, generating 1 Ultimate every 1.5 seconds.
    Oh my... perfect zerg setup... :open_mouth:
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  • Cronopoly
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    Kadoin wrote: »
    Dead-Water's Guile

    (2 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage
    (3 items) Adds 1206 Max Health
    (4 items) Adds 1096 Maximum Stamina
    (5 items) When an enemy dies within 2 seconds of being damaged by you, you gain 5 Ultimate.

    Seriously, who authorized this? No concept or idea of balance.
    Pair that with Champion of the Hist Set:
    (2 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage
    (3 items) Adds 1096 Maximum Stamina
    (4 items) Adds 1096 Maximum Stamina
    (5 items) Gain Minor Heroism at all times while you are in combat, generating 1 Ultimate every 1.5 seconds.
    Oh my... perfect zerg setup... :open_mouth:

    Maybe a Dawnbreaker / DK Take Flight spam combination....
    - 3 Max Stam,
    - 3 Weapon Dmg,
    - 1 Health
    - 2 different Ultigens, add Bloodspawn i guess.

    I'm sure a good player could work it easily.
    Edited by Cronopoly on November 2, 2018 11:37PM
  • Arkangeloski
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    It only beats WW hide if you are getting a kill every 5s. That seems pretty unrealistic in PVP, and would only be good on trash fights in PVE.

    Or if you are on an organized group DB squad spaming steel tornado farming AP on a resource tower... Very situational tho but strong indeed :) I like it.
  • mayasunrising
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    Kadoin wrote: »
    Dead-Water's Guile

    (2 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage
    (3 items) Adds 1206 Max Health
    (4 items) Adds 1096 Maximum Stamina
    (5 items) When an enemy dies within 2 seconds of being damaged by you, you gain 5 Ultimate.

    Seriously, who authorized this? No concept or idea of balance.

    When I saw this all I could think was "ball zergs in Cyro, now 100% more ball zergyer." =(

    Just what we needed, them being able to bring their ultis back on line faster.
    Edited by mayasunrising on November 2, 2018 11:31PM
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  • Arkangeloski
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    Add bloodspawn and we good.
  • adeptusminor
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    The opposite of nerf is fren
  • Waffennacht
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    I wouldn't use it
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  • Swifigames
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    Not every set should be a best in slot set. Variety is the spice of life. Keep giving people what they really want...options.
    I think the set variety is great. These are the types of sets that allow a large portion of the community to be more creative in their builds.
    Not everyone's working on the best PvP superdash to kill set, or the best supermash PvE set. Quite a lot of players are just having fun doing questing content and trying out sets like DWG.
    What did you want? More of the same?
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  • zaria
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    Kadoin wrote: »
    Dead-Water's Guile

    (2 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage
    (3 items) Adds 1206 Max Health
    (4 items) Adds 1096 Maximum Stamina
    (5 items) When an enemy dies within 2 seconds of being damaged by you, you gain 5 Ultimate.

    Seriously, who authorized this? No concept or idea of balance.

    It's fun set and situational, majority of difficult bosses spawn only handful of mobs or none at all, so it helps for farming, for fast dealing with trash, but useless in real challenge.
    This so much, VO is an trial set but its far more useful in easy dungeons and complete insane overland.
    On hard bosses there healer feed resources its pretty useless.

    VO+Dead water in cloadrest :)

    Large scale fights in Cyrodil might be one place its OP however here an organized raid group will always beat an pug as in army against mob.

    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • Gilvoth
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    p00tx wrote: »
    It's a zerg-tato set. You just insanely spam light attack dmg out in any random direction, and when one of the 100 players near you kills something, you replenish your ult so you can keep spamming Eye of the Storm.


    you would have died anyway because its a zerg on you, no matter if they have ultimates ready or not lol.
  • Gilvoth
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    can please show us how this set is bad?
    and also, how do get this set? i know a few people in my guild that would love to have this set for thier tank builds, but as far as PvP i dont see how this set could really do anything we couldnt do allready.
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    and also, how do get this set?
    it's overland Murkmire set. drops everywhere in this zone

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    Alamakot wrote: »
    and also, how do get this set?
    it's overland Murkmire set. drops everywhere in this zone

    ty for info
  • SakuraRush
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    Outside of a select few ballgroup situations I fail to see where this set would be the best choice in PvP. And even then the amount of ult generated by it would not be worth the set you give up.

    I fail to see how this set would be a problem in pve.

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