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Nerf Maelstrom bow
kessik221
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This item is for over performing and makes or breaks stamina classes. It's overwhelming power in PvE needs reduced significantly. No other single item makes a significant difference (upwards of 5k-10k dps difference) for stamina like the Maelstrom bow.
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kojou✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No. VMA is not that hard. Just do it and get one.
Besides, Relquen should be nerfed long before the VMA bow if we're talking about overperfoming gear.Playing since beta...65 -
WrathOfInnos✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭5-10k is false. You should go read this thread: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/394129/testing-the-master-bow-vs-the-maelstrom-bow25 -
jcm2606✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭You're going after the vMA bow? A weapon that, let me remind you, requires good execution of your rotation in order to perform optimally? When Relequen can add the same DPS with just light attack spamming? What?19 -
JobooAGS✭✭✭✭✭
✭Buff other stam skills, like volley if vma bow is to be nerfedEdited by JobooAGS on October 28, 2018 12:02AM3 -
RANKK7✭✭✭✭✭
✭Sure, let's nerf the only weapons left in game that truly must be earned with your own skills alone, no carries involved.
You can buy carries in whatever 4-men arena or trial you want, getting weapons (the majority of them being way better than the vma ones).
It says a lot about how this game is managed.
Vma weapons should get a huge buff, not a nerf. Too many already of them are utterly useless and the ones still used aren't that shiny anymore.
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"I really don't know who the **** came off with this change. Definitely somebody who does not play the game, that's for sure".
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jcm2606✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭dwemer_paleologist wrote: »
Why would you use the vMA bow in PVP? It's useless there, as people just move out of Volley. The Master bow is better in PVP.16 -
robpr✭✭✭✭✭
✭*provide alternative.
It's kinda off that most powerful piece of gear for group based play is aquired in solo content, while good pvp weapon are in trials and group arenas.2 -
myskyrim26✭✭✭✭✭
✭Buff everything. VMA bow, nightblades, sorcs, orcs and etc. Buff everything, so that people would complaint of BUFFS. We need change. *** -Vastei.Edited by myskyrim26 on October 28, 2018 12:31AM1 -
Apherius✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I can't get it/Don't want to try hard like everyone -> Nerf it.
Come on -_-Edited by Apherius on October 28, 2018 12:36AM16 -
Facefister✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭This item is for over performing and makes or breaks stamina classes. It's overwhelming power in PvE needs reduced significantly. No other single item makes a significant difference (upwards of 5k-10k dps difference) for stamina like the Maelstrom bow.
"5k-10k dps difference"
More like 3k~4k difference with a random bow and 1k~2k difference with Masters Bow.
Atleast you tried.18 -
kessik221✭✭✭The comparison listed was based off an old heavy attack rotation with proc sets, so yes the master bow might of been an appropriate comparison on a target dummy at that time. However, that is no longer the case and even if it was, in AoE situations the impact is much greater than the master bow and STILL far outperforms other weapons for stamina users.
To anyone bringing up the relequins set, i would point out not only is this an item SET not a single item, it can be farmed on normal mode in a few days.0 -
LadyLethalla✭✭✭✭✭
✭This item is for over performing and makes or breaks stamina classes. It's overwhelming power in PvE needs reduced significantly. No other single item makes a significant difference (upwards of 5k-10k dps difference) for stamina like the Maelstrom bow.
Calling for a nerf for PVE... smh
Why, did someone get a better DPS test?
Won't allow trial participation? Geez..
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Kikke✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Another 'lower the ceiling' post I see. Getting kinda tired of these..
What does it matter for you (A person absolutely not interested in min/maxing) that another person wants to use a bow that gives him a slightly higher damage?
If you have no interest in maxing your character with what you are given, then why do you need a bow required only by those that do?
Maelstrom weapons are a set. Reason it says (Part of the Thunderous Volley set (1/1)
And again, if you have no interest in doing this one content for a bow that will increase your damage. Why do you need it?
Or is it that you feel you don't need it, and that others have it is unfair?
Does this all come down to it being unfair that someone can clear veteran maelstrom arena, and therefore getting a better weapon than you?Cleared Trials:
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Oreyn_Bearclaw✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭If you can’t clear VMA, you don’t have the skill level or DPS for the damage difference from the VMA bow to matter. If you can, it’s a moot point because you have 7 of them.Edited by Oreyn_Bearclaw on October 28, 2018 3:59AM28 -
regime211✭✭✭✭✭
✭This item is for over performing and makes or breaks stamina classes. It's overwhelming power in PvE needs reduced significantly. No other single item makes a significant difference (upwards of 5k-10k dps difference) for stamina like the Maelstrom bow.
Bruh the game DOESN'T even work like it should and you're concerned about nerfs??Edited by regime211 on October 31, 2018 12:39AM7 -
LadyNalcarya✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »If you can’t clear VMA, you don’t have the skill level or DPS for the damage difference from the VMA bow to matter. If you can, it’s a moot point because you have 7 of them.
Pretty much this.
vMA can be cleared with about 20k dps, if someone cant do that, then they wont really notice the difference.Dro-m'Athra Destroyer | Divayth Fyr's Coadjutor | Voice of Reason
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zaria✭✭✭✭✭
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Its an pretty obvious trap to get players to do various types of content.*provide alternative.
It's kinda off that most powerful piece of gear for group based play is aquired in solo content, while good pvp weapon are in trials and group arenas.
And note that asking for nerfs is a lot like asking for close in air support from the death star.
It should also have an nominal cost of 100cp.
Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.5 -
SydneyGrey✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭It's hard for a lot of people to get that bow. It takes a long time to prepare a character that's good enough to get it. It's SUPPOSED to be more powerful than weapons from regular sets. If they nerf it, there'd be no reason to go through so much trouble to get it.
Stop asking the developers to destroy things you don't like.12 -
idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Cannot see OP actujally meaning what they say since it is hard to get 5-10k added dsp from the weapon's tooltip.
Edited by idk on October 28, 2018 5:13AM0 -
SirDopey✭✭✭✭✭
✭Another "I can't complete this content so make the reward worthless for others" post.
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Faulgor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The issue is not that it requires completing vMA, it's that it's mandatory for every stamina build since it was introduced, making it the largest factor in homogenizing stamina builds. As long as Maelstrom bow is this powerful, we will never see any other back bar weapon than bows. Maybe you're okay with that, but many people are bored to death by the narrow build diversity in this game.Alandrol Sul: He's making another Numidium?!?
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