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Dizzy swing completely broken

  • Immovablestone
    Still no ZOS acknowledgment? Shameful.
  • Rukzadlithau
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    They‘re lowkey promoting dual wield by makeing alternatives useless :wink:

    @ZOS_Gilliam
    No but seriously, rework the targetting. Just reverting to how it aimed isn‘t enough. The skill can‘t compete with sNb or DW setups since quite some time now. Adjusting as I suggested would revitalize the ability.
  • pokrakus
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    Don't be worry it will be fixed with next DLC, You will see if u still playing....
  • xeNNNNN
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    Kanar wrote: »
    Yeah I had same issues with snipe at Alessia bridge this morning.

    Good, that's indeed a positive change for everybody

    Good lord, so much truth in so few words. Amazing!
    Ah, e-communities - the "pinnacle" of the internet............yeah, right.
  • ZarkingFrued
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    Still no ZOS acknowledgment? Shameful.

    3 posts about it. Nothing at all.
  • TheMythicDawn
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    i'm sorry but if dizzy has to be collateral damage so snipe keeps this new aiming treatment

    actually im not sorry, im ok with this
  • Aurielle
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    There is a way to know if this thread has been noticed by ZoS.

    Start flooding with vulgar, rasistic, sexual, violent and Wrobel-insulting posts, and let's see if they react anyhow :D

    We must draw their attention somehow.

    somewhat worked for magsorcs though.

    What do you mean “worked”? Magsorc is currently in the worst state it has been in for a LONG time.

  • Olupajmibanan
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    @ZOS_GinaBruno

    Please, please, a word on this. You don't even have to write whole sentence. We would be ok even with initials only, something like WALII (we are looking into it).
  • Ragnarock41
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    Valykc wrote: »
    Well just keeping bumping all posts related to the issue. If enough people get annoyed by them, ZOS will have to intervene!

    Sadly the DS users are a minority nowadays sooo... good luck I'd say.
    Aurielle wrote: »
    There is a way to know if this thread has been noticed by ZoS.

    Start flooding with vulgar, rasistic, sexual, violent and Wrobel-insulting posts, and let's see if they react anyhow :D

    We must draw their attention somehow.

    somewhat worked for magsorcs though.

    What do you mean “worked”? Magsorc is currently in the worst state it has been in for a LONG time.

    deservedly so. old magsorc/magblade playstyle was extremely broken and was revolving around the shield spam crutch. I'm glad they buffed other things like c.frags and overload and nerfed the ez crutch shield spam. Now you'll have to actually give a damn about pressure, positioning, survival and build-play accordingly.

    Thought I'm not saying don't buff sorcs ever, I don't care how good or bad sorcs are. I just want them to use their brains when they play instead of smashing the shields for 20 minutes non stop.
    Edited by Ragnarock41 on October 24, 2018 10:02PM
  • RobZha
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    Have they still not even said a word on this anywhere? I can't figure out what reason they'd have to not even say something simple like "yeah we've noticed it, and sorry if it isn't going to be fixed right away but it should be looked at next week".

    I guess those of us that used the skill just aren't "high priority" enough, or something.

    I was crap with the skill anyway so have dumped it in favour of venomous claw for now. Crazily cheap skill, reminds me of using embers on mag dk and it's easy to land. So no burst at all but hoping to wear the enemy down instead. Might not be that much better for the time being but should at least get some damage in.
  • ZarkingFrued
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    I've held true to DSwing on my stamsorc. It's hard, but fun, which I prefer. The reward is great when you are good at landing it. That is going to go away though unless they fix this
  • aetherial_heavenn
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    Glad DS requires some aiming skill and can't be ani cancelled anymore either. That bug was plain trolling. Hope they take as long to fix it hitting target as they took to fix jabs hitting the player standing in your face. 😈
    Quoted for truth
    "In my experience, the elite ones have not been very toxic, and the toxic ones not very elite." WrathOfInnos
  • Burtan
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    Glad DS requires some aiming skill and can't be ani cancelled anymore either. That bug was plain trolling. Hope they take as long to fix it hitting target as they took to fix jabs hitting the player standing in your face. 😈

    Dizzying Swing cannot be animation cancelled and has always required aim and timing. Lag can cause what may look like bug abuse but most certainly is not.
  • Aliyavana
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    Glad DS requires some aiming skill and can't be ani cancelled anymore either. That bug was plain trolling. Hope they take as long to fix it hitting target as they took to fix jabs hitting the player standing in your face. 😈

    I think you mean snipe
  • Koensol
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    I've held true to DSwing on my stamsorc. It's hard, but fun, which I prefer. The reward is great when you are good at landing it. That is going to go away though unless they fix this
    Exactly this. It is just so much more fun to use compared to this new DW cheese where people are melting each other with 1 ability. Dizzy is a good example of risk/reward. Whenever you land it, it just feels so satisfying. Nothing like a good dizzy + la + dawnbreaker combo.
  • aetherial_heavenn
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    Burtan wrote: »
    Glad DS requires some aiming skill and can't be ani cancelled anymore either. That bug was plain trolling. Hope they take as long to fix it hitting target as they took to fix jabs hitting the player standing in your face. 😈

    Dizzying Swing cannot be animation cancelled and has always required aim and timing. Lag can cause what may look like bug abuse but most certainly is not.

    Dizzying swing should not be possible to ani cancel in theory. In practice it has been buggy and it has been possible for the last few weeks. And exploited to the max by certain players in cyrodil

    As for the rest. I was trolling a bit. Call it schadenfreude. Brought about by jabs on templars. They miss more than 50 per cent of time in both PvE and PvP and have done for years. Even Zos acknowledge the problem. But it isn't fixed. So i have little sympathy for a week old problem.
    Edited by aetherial_heavenn on October 25, 2018 7:01AM
    Quoted for truth
    "In my experience, the elite ones have not been very toxic, and the toxic ones not very elite." WrathOfInnos
  • Rukzadlithau
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    @aetherial_heavenn
    No, it has not been possible to ani cancle „the last weeks“. Stop spreading misinformative fantasies in an attempt to not be discovered as fraud.

    And while jabs were a mess forever and still are, it‘s no reason to be excited about the malfunction of another skill. What‘s up with this angerful behaviour, you had one Monster Energy too many?
  • xMauiWaui
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    it was hard hit a dizzy swing with my controller on a dancing pvp enemy.

    But now, i can hit 2-4x on a 15 minutes duel.

    I rlly hope for all xbox and ps4 Players, Zos fixed befor this go live on consoles...
  • Koensol
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    Good morning ZOS! A friendly reminder that people are still waiting for acknowledgement on the issue. Much appreciated.
  • Olupajmibanan
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    Koensol wrote: »
    Good morning ZOS! A friendly reminder that people are still waiting for acknowledgement on the issue. Much appreciated.

    ZoS, we don't expect fix for this anytime soon. We want only your statement. Don't worry, not a riot is going to break out if you post in this thread.
  • Burtan
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    Just some acknowledgement would be nice. I do not want to turn this into a quitting thread but its hard to keep interest in playing when gameplay is in such a bad state and it appears to go unnoticed.
  • Burtan
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    Burtan wrote: »
    Glad DS requires some aiming skill and can't be ani cancelled anymore either. That bug was plain trolling. Hope they take as long to fix it hitting target as they took to fix jabs hitting the player standing in your face. 😈

    Dizzying Swing cannot be animation cancelled and has always required aim and timing. Lag can cause what may look like bug abuse but most certainly is not.

    Dizzying swing should not be possible to ani cancel in theory. In practice it has been buggy and it has been possible for the last few weeks. And exploited to the max by certain players in cyrodil

    As for the rest. I was trolling a bit. Call it schadenfreude. Brought about by jabs on templars. They miss more than 50 per cent of time in both PvE and PvP and have done for years. Even Zos acknowledge the problem. But it isn't fixed. So i have little sympathy for a week old problem.

    This is caused by spamming the ability which will often cause a delay after which 2 swings can fire very close together. Dizzying Swing has been very buggy and unreliable for years.
  • Rukzadlithau
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    ZoS, we don't expect fix for this anytime soon. We want only your statement. Don't worry, not a riot is going to break out if you post in this thread.

    This must absolutely be hotfixed during this dlc cycle. It’s the signature offensive ability of the weapon line. The malfunction degrades the weapon line and destroys an entire playstyle.

    Simply reverting it to the way it was is not enough either. The skill was not up to date or user friendly for too long, and now is even completely useless.

    I‘m shocked how this is not getting addressed at all. How can a company of this calibre not have the capacity to immediately find satisfying solutions to such issues.
    Edited by Rukzadlithau on October 25, 2018 2:10PM
  • Yamakaziing
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    They want to kick people out entirely. Same groups don’t want any resistance. They wish to log on steamroll the board uncontested take all scrolls and Emp until another defaul raid on the other faction comes to dethrone.
  • JasonWangTaiwan
    Either change upper cut to instant or make it one phase check, if ZOS can’t deal with lag or class spammable the cast time is unreasonable.
    In PVP, a missed skill is trash and your target get potential heal because your skill did no damage.
    If someone worried about wrecking blow spam again and it won’t happen because the damage of upper cut is going to be readjust, so I see no point not to make it instant.
  • enzoisadog
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    Still waiting for the fix.
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  • usmcjdking
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    The sad thing is Dizzy Swing is so strong with the speed nerfs this patch.

    But so impossibly difficult to use ATM.
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  • Valykc
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    All I know is that the Templar class rep apparently said on the Templar discord channel that the uppercut bug was passed on... let’s see if they listen to the reps at all, since what I’ve gathered is that they ignore most of their feedback
  • BigBragg
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    Valykc wrote: »
    All I know is that the Templar class rep apparently said on the Templar discord channel that the uppercut bug was passed on... let’s see if they listen to the reps at all, since what I’ve gathered is that they ignore most of their feedback

    Okay so in two or three updates we will read a short quip like, "Fixed an issue where Dizzing Swing wasn't tracking properly."
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