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Why put a different timer on dremora skulls then normal world events?
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Jaraal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭So, 12 players are on 12 different Dremora skull timers. All 12 spend a ton of time grinding through a trial, and only 7 get the skull.
Who thought this would be a good idea?7 -
generalmyrick✭✭✭✭✭
✭So, 12 players are on 12 different Dremora skull timers. All 12 spend a ton of time grinding through a trial, and only 7 get the skull.
Who thought this would be a good idea?
zing!!!!"The red pill and its opposite, the blue pill, are a popular cultural meme, a metaphor representing the choice between:
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OrdoHermetica✭✭✭✭✭
✭Meanwhile, I mysteriously haven't gotten a Public Dungeon boss skull in the last 24 hours. All the others, no problem, but Public Dungeon bosses? Just not dropping. Good times.1 -
Loves_guars✭✭✭✭✭
✭Please ZoS for the love of Talos, make timers just dailies, no more 20 or x hs wait, make them reset at morning!!!!!! :'(4 -
Gorgoneus✭✭✭Poore greedy ZoS too scared to give you adequate daily reset, because they are counting every single skull you riped from their flesh. Dat stupid 20h system guaranteed some people will miss some amount of skulls anyway.Edited by Gorgoneus on October 21, 2018 8:42PM0 -
Jaraal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Poore greedy ZoS too scared to give you adequate daily reset, because they are counting every single skull you riped from their flesh. Dat stupid 20h system guaranteed some people will miss some amount of skulls anyway.
Yes because not many people are going to stay up all night missing sleep to get those odd hour refreshes. My guess is the 20 hr timer is actually a nerf, because people will usually be awake at the same time of day and remember when the 24 hour timer resets, but with 20 hour timers depending on human documentation to track, plus the rotation causing several resets to occur when people are sleeping/not playing, means there will be less objective fulfillment after all.0 -
generalmyrick✭✭✭✭✭
✭what was the point of the timer? limit motif proliferation?"The red pill and its opposite, the blue pill, are a popular cultural meme, a metaphor representing the choice between:
Knowledge, freedom, uncertainty and the brutal truths of reality (red pill)
Security, happiness, beauty, and the blissful ignorance of illusion (blue pill)"
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Compared to people that I've ignored = I am 18% more insightful, 20% less agreeable, and 88% more awesome.1 -
Alinhbo_Tyaka✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭One thing I will say about Final Fantasy XIV is anything on a timer had an entry under the timers tab of the UI. It would be nice to have something similar in this game especially for newer folks like myself who might not even be aware of the various timers. However it seems to me ZOS went the route of having the user community do most of the UI work via addons rather than provide many that I would consider basic functions of a game. While user addons are nice they also allow ZOS to justify lower development dollars as they can always say the player base will eventually do the work for them.generalmyrick wrote: »what was the point of the timer? limit motif proliferation?
If that was their rationale they failed. I've been buying event motifs I'm missing for anywhere between 500 and 5K gold with what appears to be no shortage of sellers.Edited by Alinhbo_Tyaka on October 21, 2018 9:27PM1 -
Maotti✭✭✭✭✭
✭The autistic part in me is spinning its head because of this. Would be much easier for me if the timer reset the same time as the daily quest reset time.Edited by Maotti on October 21, 2018 11:37PMPC EU2 -
stojekarcub18_ESO✭✭✭✭This was an EPIC fail on the part of ZOS.... HOW AND WHY COULD THIS POSSIBLY SEEM LIKE A GOOD IDEA?!?!2 -
fgoron2000✭✭✭✭starkerealm wrote: »Last night I killed 1 boss 3 times (because for some reason it took 3 attempts to get the ticket) and then logged off.
If there was a large cluster of players on the boss, that's your problem. Only the top 12 damage dealers get credit and a drop. If you have 20 some players working over the same enemy, it's entirely possible you won't get a drop (in this case no Plunder Skull, and no Ticket.)
You can get credit for a boss kill if you do enough healing as well. I wonder if healers are in addition to the top 12 dps, or if the top 12 is made up of both dps and healers.
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fgoron2000✭✭✭✭This should be fixed with Mondays patch for PC, ZOS is making the timers a daily event I believe I read that it was going to be the same as the crafting writ reset times.
Is it certain that all of the Dremora timers will be changed this way with Monday's patch, or just the Event Ticket timer? That's a bit of a subtle line to draw in the sand, but if you read the patch notes, it specifies the timer for the quests that generate event tickets will refresh their ability to grant event tickets, not specifically the dremora timers, although it's the dremora skulls that generate the event ticket so who knows? I've read it several times and still can't work out the mechanics on whether it means all dremora skulls or just the ticket...0 -
fgoron2000✭✭✭✭OrdoHermetica wrote: »Meanwhile, I mysteriously haven't gotten a Public Dungeon boss skull in the last 24 hours. All the others, no problem, but Public Dungeon bosses? Just not dropping. Good times.
hmmmmm....starting today, i'm having the same issue with WB Dremora skulls...I've gone back & forth with support a couple times, and I'm still not convinced that they understand my issue. They keep telling me how it works, and I have to reply to them that, yeah I understood from the beginning that that's how it's supposed to work, but that's not how it is working...<sigh>
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Iselin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭OrdoHermetica wrote: »Meanwhile, I mysteriously haven't gotten a Public Dungeon boss skull in the last 24 hours. All the others, no problem, but Public Dungeon bosses? Just not dropping. Good times.
Do you mean dremora or no purple skulls either? The Public dungeon boss dremora skull is shared with overland quest bosses. You get it at one or the other but not both.
There is also a 3 minute timer for the regular purple skulls and in public dungeons it's easy to not get one from a boss due to that timer. But if you're not getting them from any public dungeon bosses, that's definitely a bug.0 -
yodased✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭There is a work around fo this. Just make sure the first skull you get is from a random dungeon.
The reason being, they are also on a 20hour cooldown for premium rewards.
So as long as that is first and all others are after, when you log in, if the random queue is purple, you good. If its blue its too soon.Tl;dr really weigh the fun you have in game vs the business practices you are supporting.2 -
weedgenius✭✭✭✭✭
✭OrdoHermetica wrote: »Meanwhile, I mysteriously haven't gotten a Public Dungeon boss skull in the last 24 hours. All the others, no problem, but Public Dungeon bosses? Just not dropping. Good times.
@OrdoHermetica SAME HERE!! Are you on PS4 NA? Is this a ZOS bug? I wrote down all my times from yesterday and got every other Dremora skull without a problem. Imagine my surprise when I killed that first public dungeon boss and didn't see the yellow skull. Uh... what? I'm positive I was supposed to get one. I killed a couple more and even tried it in another public dungeon later. Nope. I did not get a public dungeon skull today.PS4 NA
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Jaraal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭There is also a 3 minute timer for the regular purple skulls and in public dungeons it's easy to not get one from a boss due to that timer.
Where did you find this out? That could explain why we aren't getting purples from pub dung bosses. They expect us to stand around in front of a boss with a stopwatch in our hand to time the start of the fight? And hope some other group doesn't run in and start fighting it?
Really?
Edited by Jaraal on October 22, 2018 4:11AM0 -
code65536✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭There is also a 3 minute timer for the regular purple skulls and in public dungeons it's easy to not get one from a boss due to that timer.
Where did you find this out? That could explain why we aren't getting purples from pub dung bosses. They expect us to stand around in front of a boss with a stopwatch in our hand to time the start of the fight? And hope some other group doesn't run in and start fighting it?
Really?
For the 2016 and 2017 festivals, all bosses had a 3-minute cooldown for Plunder Skulls. They removed that cooldown for this year's festival. But there are some places where that cooldown still exists, such as public dungeons. However, some bosses in public dungeons, like those in the Rivenspire public dungeon, don't have cooldowns.
It's an inconsistent mess. And it's not clear yet at this point what is intended. Was the removal of the 3-minute cooldown this year an intended change? Or is it a bug? Is it a bug that some public dungeon bosses have no cooldown? Or is it a bug that some public dungeon bosses do have a cooldown?Nightfighters ― PC/NA and PC/EU
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fgoron2000✭✭✭✭There is also a 3 minute timer for the regular purple skulls and in public dungeons it's easy to not get one from a boss due to that timer.
Where did you find this out? That could explain why we aren't getting purples from pub dung bosses. They expect us to stand around in front of a boss with a stopwatch in our hand to time the start of the fight? And hope some other group doesn't run in and start fighting it?
Really?
For the 2016 and 2017 festivals, all bosses had a 3-minute cooldown for Plunder Skulls. They removed that cooldown for this year's festival. But there are some places where that cooldown still exists, such as public dungeons. However, some bosses in public dungeons, like those in the Rivenspire public dungeon, don't have cooldowns.
It's an inconsistent mess. And it's not clear yet at this point what is intended. Was the removal of the 3-minute cooldown this year an intended change? Or is it a bug? Is it a bug that some public dungeon bosses have no cooldown? Or is it a bug that some public dungeon bosses do have a cooldown?
actually, what I firmly believe, as I've experienced it consistently since the beginning of this year's event, is that although they removed the general 3 minute timer, there's still a 3 minute timer FOR THE SAME BOSS...I've been getting purple skulls sometimes as quickly as within 30 seconds of each other in public dungeons when I go from one boss to the next one down the hall or in the next room for instance (think alik'r dolmens). But if I go back to the previous boss and it wasn't 3 minutes yet, I'd get no skull...1 -
code65536✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭fgoron2000 wrote: »There is also a 3 minute timer for the regular purple skulls and in public dungeons it's easy to not get one from a boss due to that timer.
Where did you find this out? That could explain why we aren't getting purples from pub dung bosses. They expect us to stand around in front of a boss with a stopwatch in our hand to time the start of the fight? And hope some other group doesn't run in and start fighting it?
Really?
For the 2016 and 2017 festivals, all bosses had a 3-minute cooldown for Plunder Skulls. They removed that cooldown for this year's festival. But there are some places where that cooldown still exists, such as public dungeons. However, some bosses in public dungeons, like those in the Rivenspire public dungeon, don't have cooldowns.
It's an inconsistent mess. And it's not clear yet at this point what is intended. Was the removal of the 3-minute cooldown this year an intended change? Or is it a bug? Is it a bug that some public dungeon bosses have no cooldown? Or is it a bug that some public dungeon bosses do have a cooldown?
actually, what I firmly believe, as I've experienced it consistently since the beginning of this year's event, is that although they removed the general 3 minute timer, there's still a 3 minute timer FOR THE SAME BOSS...I've been getting purple skulls sometimes as quickly as within 30 seconds of each other in public dungeons when I go from one boss to the next one down the hall or in the next room for instance (think alik'r dolmens). But if I go back to the previous boss and it wasn't 3 minutes yet, I'd get no skull...
No, no, it's just inconsistent.
I removed the timer for the regular skulls from the Plunder Skull Timer addon, because I was convinced that there was no cooldown this year.
One player complained and said that there was still a cooldown on Public Dungeon bosses. I thought that he was wrong, because I know that I had gotten quick skull drops in the Rivenspire dungeon. So I went back into the Rivenspire dungeon, killed two bosses in less than 30s of each other and got two skulls. So I told him that he was wrong, and that there was no cooldown, and that he was probably just seeing the same-boss cooldown.
He replied with a video, showing him killing several bosses in the Malabal Tor dungeon. All separate, different bosses. None of them were respawns. He even got the achievement for that dungeon, meaning that character hadn't ever killed those bosses before.
And sure enough, when I went to that particular dungeon, the bosses did indeed have a cooldown.
So, like I said, it's just inconsistent. Some have a cooldown. Some don't. Welcome to ESO.Edited by code65536 on October 22, 2018 8:07AMNightfighters ― PC/NA and PC/EU
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- Asylum Sanctorium: 114957 (NA) (Immortal Redeemer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10)
- Cloudrest: 131256 (NA) (Gryphon Heart #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7)
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- Apex Predator and Pure Lunacy
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- Defanged the Devourer and Nature's Wrath
- In Defiance of Death and No Rest for the Wicked
- Bane of Thorns and True Genius
- Ardent Bibliophile and Subterranean Smasher
- Battlespire's Best and Bastion Breaker
- Zero Regrets and Land, Air, and Sea Supremacy
- Fist of Tava and Invader's Bane
- Curator's Champion (Valinna) and Temporal Tempest
- Unshakeable Fervor and Lighting the Embers
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Boun✭✭fgoron2000 wrote: »OrdoHermetica wrote: »Meanwhile, I mysteriously haven't gotten a Public Dungeon boss skull in the last 24 hours. All the others, no problem, but Public Dungeon bosses? Just not dropping. Good times.
hmmmmm....starting today, i'm having the same issue with WB Dremora skulls...I've gone back & forth with support a couple times, and I'm still not convinced that they understand my issue. They keep telling me how it works, and I have to reply to them that, yeah I understood from the beginning that that's how it's supposed to work, but that's not how it is working...<sigh>
^ This
So i'm not the only one to have this problem, i simply didn't get a single yellow dremora skull in public dungeons ... and I ran many of them yesterday and the day before.0 -
OrdoHermetica✭✭✭✭✭
✭weedgenius wrote: »OrdoHermetica wrote: »Meanwhile, I mysteriously haven't gotten a Public Dungeon boss skull in the last 24 hours. All the others, no problem, but Public Dungeon bosses? Just not dropping. Good times.
@OrdoHermetica SAME HERE!! Are you on PS4 NA? Is this a ZOS bug? I wrote down all my times from yesterday and got every other Dremora skull without a problem. Imagine my surprise when I killed that first public dungeon boss and didn't see the yellow skull. Uh... what? I'm positive I was supposed to get one. I killed a couple more and even tried it in another public dungeon later. Nope. I did not get a public dungeon skull today.
Nope, PC/NA. So, yeah, probably a ZOS bug if it's happening cross-platform. Also, it appears as though the Gold Coast Delves count as Public Dungeon bosses as far as the timer goes, but DON'T drop Public Dungeon Skulls, so... that's cool, too.0 -
ZOS_GregoryV wrote: »Greetings all,
After removing a handful of posts, we must remind everyone to keep all posts civil and constructive, as well as withing the guidelines of our Community Rules.
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-Greg-
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jaws343✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭There is also a 3 minute timer for the regular purple skulls and in public dungeons it's easy to not get one from a boss due to that timer.
Where did you find this out? That could explain why we aren't getting purples from pub dung bosses. They expect us to stand around in front of a boss with a stopwatch in our hand to time the start of the fight? And hope some other group doesn't run in and start fighting it?
Really?
Public dungeon bosses already have a cooldown timer for loot. You know when you kill too many too fast and only get gold? That is the timer. And its the same timer for the skulls. So yeah, you have always been required to wait around if you wanted to get loot.
And as far as the cooldown for the dremora skulls. How hard is it to just do the skull farm at the same time each day? For those who can't play at the same time, I can see how it can be frustrating. But there seem to be people following the timer right down to cooldown. Why? If you did your farm between 8-10Pm, the very next day, your timers restart between 4-6Pm. So, either just do your farm again at the same time as the previous day, or subract 4 hours from the last skull you pick up and do your farm then. It's literally simple math. 20 hours is 4 hours back from when you finished on the next day.0 -
doc_ketamine✭✭✭How hard is it to just do the skull farm at the same time each day? For those who can't play at the same time, I can see how it can be frustrating.
I wish the people who would come her tom comment "how hard is it to X" would read the multitudes who have already commented saying "it's hard because of our jobs and kids and life". It's great that you can play the same time every day. Not everyone can.
"How hard is it to" have all quest and item cooldowns reset at the same time each day, like GMT? C'mon, ZOS, enough with the horrible fragmentation / cooldown creep.Edited by doc_ketamine on October 22, 2018 1:53PM3 -
DenniMyuu✭✭✭✭So amazing when I can only play in the evening due to work and on the weekend I have to wait half a day to get them again because rip me I played in the evening Friday right...
I wonder how hard it must be to just add all those daily things to one equal timer like the crafting dailies etc.Possessed Myuutikora | Argonian | Templar | Healer | Master Angler • Goddess Goni | Argonian | Warden | Healer
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craftycarper73✭✭✭✭✭And Zo$ says ***, cos they they dont give a ***.
This event is perfect if you live off the state or bank of mummy n daddy and sit on your fat arse all day doing nothing but play games.
Those who have that dirty word a "Job" or Family commitments, are proper screwed over.Born, Bred & Made in Manchester UK, RIP 22 Angels. 22/05/2017
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doc_ketamine✭✭✭craftycarper73 wrote: »This event is perfect if you live off the state or bank of mummy n daddy and sit on your fat arse all day doing nothing but play games.
Those who have that dirty word a "Job" or Family commitments, are proper screwed over.
Man I love hearing the Brits grouse about things. Such wonderfully colorful language!
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craftycarper73✭✭✭✭✭doc_ketamine wrote: »craftycarper73 wrote: »This event is perfect if you live off the state or bank of mummy n daddy and sit on your fat arse all day doing nothing but play games.
Those who have that dirty word a "Job" or Family commitments, are proper screwed over.
Man I love hearing the Brits grouse about things. Such wonderfully colorful language!
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The Place by Tony Walsh Please ReadThis is the place in the North West of England
It’s ace, it’s the best and the songs that we sing
From the stands, from our bands set the whole planet shaking
Our inventions are legends! There’s nowt we can’t make and
So we make brilliant music. We make brilliant bands
We make goals that make souls leap from seats in the stands
And we make things from steel and we make things from cotton
And we make people laugh, take the mick summat rotten
And we make you at home and we make you feel welcome
And we make summat happen, we can’t seem to help it
And if you’re looking for history then yes, we’ve a wealth
But the Manchester way is to make it yourself
And make us a record, a new number one
And make us a brew while you’re up, love. Go on!
And make us feel proud that you’re winning the league
And make us sing louder and make us believe it
that this is the place that has helped shape the world
And that this the place where a Manchester girl
Name of Emmeline Pankhurst from the streets of Moss Side
Led a Suffragette City with sisterhood pride
And this is the place with appliance of science
We’re on it, atomic, we strut with defiance
In the face of a challenge we always stand tall
Mancunians in union delivered it all
Such as housing and libraries, and health, education
And unions and co-ops, the first railway station
So we’re sorry! Bear with us! We invented commuters!
But we hope you forgive us – we invented computers!
And this is the place Henry Royce strolled with Rolls
And we’ve rocked and we’ve rolled with our own Northern Soul
And so this is the place to do business, then dance
Where go-getters and goal setters know they’ve a chance
And this is the place where we first played as kids
And me Mam lived and died here, she loved it she did
And this is the place where our folks came to work
Where they struggled in puddles, they hurt in the dirt
And they built us a city. They built us these towns
And they coughed on the cobbles to the deafening sound
Of the steaming machines and the screaming of slaves
They were scheming for greatness, they dreamed to their graves
And they left us a spirit, they left us a vibe
The Mancunian Way to survive and to thrive
And to work and to build, to connect and create and
Greater Manchester’s greatness is keeping it great
And so this is the place now we’ve kids of our own
Some are born here, some drawn here but we all call it home
And they’ve covered the cobbles, but they’ll never defeat
All the dreamers and schemers who still teem through these streets
Because this is a place that has been through some hard times
Oppressions, recessions, depressions and dark times
But we keep fighting back with Greater Manchester spirit
Northern grit, northern wit in Greater Manchester’s lyrics
And there’s hard times again in these streets of our city
But we won’t take defeat and we don’t want your pity
Because this a place where we stand strong together
With a smile on our face, Mancunians Forever
And we’ve got this* as the place where a team with a dream (*Forever Manchester)
Can get funding and something to help with their scheme
Because this is the place that understands your grand plans
We don’t do No Can Do, we just stress Yes We Can!
Forever Manchester’s a charity for people round ‘ere
You can fundraise, donate. You can be a volunteer
You can live local, give local. We can honestly say
We do charity differently, that Mancunian Way
And we fund local kids, and we fund local teams
We support local dreamers to work for their dreams
We support local groups and the great work they do
So can you …help us help… local people like you?
Because this is the place in our hearts, in our homes
Because this is the place that’s a part of our bones
‘Cos Greater Manchester gives us such strength from the fact
That this is the place. We should give something back.
Always remember. Never forget. Forever Manchester.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭doc_ketamine wrote: »How hard is it to just do the skull farm at the same time each day? For those who can't play at the same time, I can see how it can be frustrating.
I wish the people who would come her tom comment "how hard is it to X" would read the multitudes who have already commented saying "it's hard because of our jobs and kids and life". It's great that you can play the same time every day. Not everyone can.
"How hard is it to" have all quest and item cooldowns reset at the same time each day, like GMT? C'mon, ZOS, enough with the horrible fragmentation / cooldown creep.
It's so great that you quoted the second part of my comment about understanding it being frustrating for those who can't play at the same time and then completely ignored it. But at the same time, you missed the point where my comment was directed at people who track the timer down to the minute so that they can get the skulls immediately on cooldown. You know, the people that seem to have the time to play the game whenever they want.
Also, everyone seems to expect ZOS to contact them and work out their schedules so that everything works out perfectly for them. Sometimes being an adult, with real life responsibilities, means you can't always do everything you want. And that comes with the realization that noone owes you anything. This is a video game, and real life takes precedent. Oh well.Edited by jaws343 on October 22, 2018 2:27PM0