Probably because its an "I win" button against ranged builds and useless against melee.

PVP in this game is balamced like "Rock, Paper, Scissors, so DK wings makes perfect sense in that light.

Galalin wrote: »

Lol another change everyone's playstyle to suit my playstyle post.... how cute

Please think before posting nonsense. Its about balance and the fact I feel pidgeon holed into melee. Cloak and shields are getting nerfed btw. what about RC? nooo. Any real player understands how ridiculous this skill is. Its why there are so many DKs in BGs now cause you can literally mitigate an entire play style.

I'd be more open to the OPs argument if wing-spamming DKs were actually overperforming. Since they're not, I can't bring myself to get too worked up.

In duels against classes like ranged MagBlade, no question they are OP. In all other PvP that actually matters, they have many counters (melee, Force Pulse, AoE to name a few).

I think they are fine though.

brandonv516 wrote: »

In duels against classes like ranged MagBlade, no question they are OP. In all other PvP that actually matters, they have many counters (melee, Force Pulse, AoE to name a few).

I think they are fine though.

In fairness, lots of things are OP in duels that are balanced in BGs and Cyrodiil. There's a reason dueling tournaments have a list of rules and disallowed sets.

brandonv516 wrote: »

In duels against classes like ranged MagBlade, no question they are OP. In all other PvP that actually matters, they have many counters (melee, Force Pulse, AoE to name a few).

I think they are fine though.

This somes up my point. Why does ranged pvp not matter?

Less of an issue with wings and an issue with what is/isn't reflectable IMO: hard-hitting abilities like Snipe should be reflectable, of course, because then otherwise reflect has no use, but should magblade, a ranged class whose entire strength is it's class skills, really not have a single non-projectile ranged ability in it's toolkit?

arkansas_ESO wrote: »

Less of an issue with wings and an issue with what is/isn't reflectable IMO: hard-hitting abilities like Snipe should be reflectable, of course, because then otherwise reflect has no use, but should magblade, a ranged class whose entire strength is it's class skills, really not have a single non-projectile ranged ability in it's toolkit?

I completely agree with you here.

Betty_Booms wrote: »

Perhaps they should rework hardened ward to reflect the next 6 melee attacks... oh the uproar...

Well definitely if it was 6 and not 4.

Also any ranged attack would kill your sorc cuz no shield would help and no heals

Anyway.

It's been nerfed plenty in the past, no double reflect, reflect limit and I think cost

Betty_Booms wrote: »

Why has reflective scales been overlooked so much? It is an "I win" button against ranged play styles. Because of this skill alone I am considering having to change my style or maybe just have a break. It is completely over- powered against ranged. You can use maybe 1/3rd of your tool kit against the DK.

Yes people will say just run away... But how affective is avoiding people because there is no way to beat them in a death match ffs..

There are an abundance of DKs in BGs these days. When this happens you are all but redundant.
I had one DK sit there and laugh at me cause all I could do was curse, pulse and HA channel...

When I play ranged magblade, none of my kit can hit them except Soul Harvest. Definitely a tough matchup. If you use a resto backbar with a spell damage enchant, light attack spam them while kiting. Eventually they will run out of magicka as wings is not cheap...and you'll have your burst charged.

Ultimately, wings is not broken since it scales very poorly.

Betty_Booms wrote: »

Galalin wrote: »

Betty_Booms wrote: »

Galalin wrote: »

You acting as if everyone has it. Amost all classes and skills have counters and there are builds and skills you could use... it's not anyone's fault but your own if you choose not to. You looking at this purely from a selfish point of view so there is no point debating over it. Git gud

Tell me what skills I should use to get around it as a mag sorc?
Be specific if you are going to make silly accusations.

But you strike me as the token forum troll that posts "git gud" in 90% of your posts without any constructive answer so I think ill just ignore you from here.

Can you find one post where I have every said that before? I think not. Stand in your mines and the DK then does what? There are lots of counters and I'm not wasting my time spelling it out for you. This is a l2p issue. Wings have been nerfed enough in the past

Now your just making me laugh... Melee IS the only matter cause there are no ranged DKs right?....just stop... really

If two ranged DKs with Reflective Shield fight each other, is that a "mirror match"?

Betty_Booms wrote: »

ak_pvp wrote: »

It sucks. But you gotta look on the other side. Its useless against melee builds, and vs multiple ranged targets who mow it down near instantly

Its no different to say purge which counters dot builds, or harness, which gives near infinite sustain and shields vs mag builds, and is useful against other ones. Compared to things like shimmer or cloak its laughable.

I'd be fine with it being changed completely, but blanket nerfing it is stupid.

I see what you are saying. But purge does not reflect the damage back to the attacker and it removes 2 harmfull affects not 6. Harness Magicka is a much greater cost. Must be magic damage to get magicka return and is available to all classes - and is getting nerfed. Cloak is getting destroyed by the nerf bat and I would much rather have a fighting chance against shimmer then smash my own face in with RC...

The problem is rock is trumping the rest right now.

Templar purge is 5 abilities. And includes every single on target effect. DK wings is 4 and has many many exemptions. Cloak isn't getting nerfed, no where near, its getting buffed cause mark is less duration and evasion for NBs means less pain when being revealed by an AoE. Remember cloak stops all ST attacks, dots and makes them invisible, it has no numerical limit. All the reveals more sacrificial for the revealer.

Harness is mildly nerfed, but it is also buffed vs low pen builds. So no, its also still going to be very strong. It being accessible isn't an excuse for its strengths, its any spell dmg, not just magic, so fire, ice, shock, etc. It returns more mag than it costs. But I am going to guess you are defending it because you use it.
Shimmering is cheaper and gives heroism to one of the strongest classes in the game.

Betty_Booms wrote: »

Perhaps they should rework hardened ward to reflect the next 6 melee attacks... oh the uproar...

Do it do it do it do it do it.
4 melee attacks, but remember to add the same amount of exemptions wings has. Have fun with your shield being destroyed by 2 players light attacking you.