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So almost all classes getting buffs, only magsorc getting nerfed, but people are calling it nerfmire
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Itacira✭✭✭✭✭??? how were stamsorc buffed ????PC/EU - PVE 2H stam orc petsorc (meta, what meta?) ww - terrible dps - mediocre player - fun times - free ww bites to whomever asks so don't be shy if interested2 -
Haashhtaag✭✭✭✭✭
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Most of the really good stamplars I know run double damage sets before this change and sustain just fine. Some of them don’t even run repentance
The vast majority of players are PvErs. In PvE they're getting an extra 480 stam recovery, and 8% buff to jabs on the main target.
Even in PvP the new rune allows you to drop Bone Pirate which is currently mandatory for stamplars, and pick up a set like shackle, hulking, or spriggan. You can also drop the serpent stone for the warrior or lover. Overall stamplars will do more dmg in pvp. I'll quit my stamplar over the javelin change, but that's more of a personal thing.
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Sparr0w✭✭✭✭✭
✭Bigevilpeter wrote: »Stamden: buffed
Magplar: buffed
Stamplar: buffed
Magdk: buffed
Stamsorc: buffed
NBs: slighlty nerfed
Stamdk: same
Magden:Nerfed but they already sucked anyways
Overall this is a buffmire, but this also shows how many people played Magsorcs and Mageblades and had an easy life and now they have to L2P
Magplar - Agree
Stamplar - Agree from pve perspective
Magdk - DPS increase, sustain nerf.
Stamsorc - where?
NBs - Agree, extra 300-400 drain/s + healing nerf + tanking nerf.
Stamdk: Class this as a buff with the range
Magden: same as is, got a buff but bear nerf
However all mag classes got shields nerfed and any mag class that ran elemental weapon got a sustain nerf.@Sparr0w so I get the notification
Xbox (EU) - l Sparrow x | CP 810+DD: All Mag + StamPC (EU) - Sparrxw | CP 810+
Heal: Templar | Sorc | NB | Warden | Necro
Tank: NB | DK | Warden
Completions: All HM's + TTT + IR + GHDD: All Mag + Stam
Heal: Templar | Sorc
Tank: DK | NB
Completions: All HM's + TTT + IR + GH + GS2 -
ESO_Nightingale✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Oof that last one hit close to home. True though at least people know it was nerfed.PvE Frost Warden Main and teacher. Come Join the ESO Frost Discord to discuss everything frost!: https://discord.gg/5PT3rQX
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ruengdet2515✭✭✭Haashhtaag wrote: »When people make a thread like this and truly have no idea about the game.
Because that player is nerf.0 -
kathandira✭✭✭✭✭
✭Bigevilpeter wrote: »shows how many people played Magsorcs and Mageblades and had an easy life and now they have to L2P
Or rather, it shows that the theory crafters learned to play so well, they found the classes which were the exploitable. And everyone followed suit.PS4-NA. Breton Templar Healer, Bosmer Stamplar, Breton Magplar, Orsimer StamDK, Dunmer MagDK, Khajiit StamNB, Dunmer MagNB, Argonian Warden Tank, Altmer Magsorc0 -
TheGreatBlackBear✭✭✭✭✭
✭Some of these mag Sorcs need to get their heads out of their a** and get over themselves. The game doesn't revolve around you.Edited by TheGreatBlackBear on October 19, 2018 1:06PM6 -
Bigevilpeter✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Haashhtaag wrote: »When people make a thread like this and truly have no idea about the game.
I have been playing this game since 2015; got 10 characters maxed out and endgame and have finished most content in this game, im pretty sure I know quite a lot about this game
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Sparr0w✭✭✭✭✭
✭I'd still rather crack a heavy attack then use dark deal, 1s+ of idling and it only gives slightly more resources back if you let it run the full duration. The old version you could whack it twice and forget.@Sparr0w so I get the notification
Xbox (EU) - l Sparrow x | CP 810+DD: All Mag + StamPC (EU) - Sparrxw | CP 810+
Heal: Templar | Sorc | NB | Warden | Necro
Tank: NB | DK | Warden
Completions: All HM's + TTT + IR + GHDD: All Mag + Stam
Heal: Templar | Sorc
Tank: DK | NB
Completions: All HM's + TTT + IR + GH + GS0 -
Bigevilpeter✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I'd still rather crack a heavy attack then use dark deal, 1s+ of idling and it only gives slightly more resources back if you let it run the full duration. The old version you could whack it twice and forget.
On dummy maybe, but in real situations where you need to move and do other stuff its really good, all Magicka characters use channeled acceleration anyways, I dont see a big difference, you can use it for a burst of resources or just keep it up for some good sustain
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✭✭✭✭✭Main characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 50 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard StamplarAll chars 50 @ CP 1900+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.7 -
Amdar_Godkiller✭✭✭✭✭For PVP, I would say all stam classes were nerfed except the ones that are largely reliant on heavy armor, so stamden and stam dk.
I'm still unsure if I view the mag changes as a net nerf for any class except magden, but the only one that was substantially buffed was magplar.
So the biggest nerfs were to stamsorc, stamplar, and magden IMO. Magplar and StamdK deservedly were buffed the most. Everyone else is somewhere between moderately nerfed and micro-buffed.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭TheGreatBlackBear wrote: »Some of these mag Sorcs need to get their heads out of their a** and get over themselves. The game doesn't revolve around you.
The game doesn't revolve around you either. I'd wager the person annoyed that people who have something to complain about are complaining, is the one under that impression.
Whenever nerfs happen, I always assume that people will vent and don't expect them not to discuss the consequences in a discussion forum, even when I think the nerfs are deserved.
It is obvious they are going to do that, there is never going to be a nerf that is universally enjoyed by the people it targets. The very idea of that is preposterous.Edited by spartaxoxo on October 19, 2018 8:56PM5 -
Jameliel✭✭✭✭✭
✭The forward momentum nerf is flat out stupid. 4 second buffs are beyond ludicrous. Whoever thought of and agreed to such garbage needs to be fired. They have absolutely no business working on an mmo of ESOs size.1 -
Bigevilpeter✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭PvP is a messy pile of trash anyways in this game, it was never balanced and never will be. At least PvE can be fixed1 -
VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Bigevilpeter wrote: »PvP is a messy pile of trash anyways in this game, it was never balanced and never will be. At least PvE can be fixed
PVP is fairly balanced. Its just balanced like Rock, Paper, Scissors. So someone will always win and someone will always lose, and some people can't stand losing. And if a build every manages to combine the best of rock and scissors, well that build must be nerfed, ASAP.2 -
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✭VaranisArano wrote: »Bigevilpeter wrote: »PvP is a messy pile of trash anyways in this game, it was never balanced and never will be. At least PvE can be fixed
PVP is fairly balanced. Its just balanced like Rock, Paper, Scissors. So someone will always win and someone will always lose, and some people can't stand losing. And if a build every manages to combine the best of rock and scissors, well that build must be nerfed, ASAP.
So if someone spend time and effort to make a good build it needs to be nerfed ? There will always be good builds because that's how many play.
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MinarasLaure✭✭✭✭I main both magden and magsorc and I'm playing mainly in pvp.
My magsorc will pretty much turn into a mule, while im actually quite happy with magden as I've never used the bear in pvp.
I've got shalk cost reduction, cliff dmg increased, Betty netch buffed and an overall dps increase thanks to the passive.
I get it, bop and arctic blast got nerfed, but as magden, I don't really careEdited by MinarasLaure on October 20, 2018 2:30PM1 -
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✭✭✭Bigevilpeter wrote: »Haashhtaag wrote: »When people make a thread like this and truly have no idea about the game.
I have been playing this game since 2015; got 10 characters maxed out and endgame and have finished most content in this game, im pretty sure I know quite a lot about this game
Not really, If you did you wouldn't post such troll threads. I feel bad for all the players that got their classes hammered. An if you were doing true endgame content you would of had a magblade and a sorcy running around everyday.
Also, how is it smart being happy that they the nerfed classes that are there for you as well? Smh
Edited by Girl_Number8 on October 20, 2018 2:37PM1 -
Bigevilpeter✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Girl_Number8 wrote: »Bigevilpeter wrote: »Haashhtaag wrote: »When people make a thread like this and truly have no idea about the game.
I have been playing this game since 2015; got 10 characters maxed out and endgame and have finished most content in this game, im pretty sure I know quite a lot about this game
Not really, If you did you wouldn't post such troll threads. I feel bad for all the players that got their classes hammered. An if you were doing true endgame content you would of had a magblade and a sorcy running around everyday.
Also, how is it smart being happy that they the nerfed classes that are there for you as well? Smh
Because I don't want to be forced to play only my Mageblade and Magsorc in endgame PvE, also what people arent noticing is the change in evasion buff, so if the healer uses gossamer all the party gets 25% aoe damage reduction even magicka characters which I think is OP.
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✭✭✭Bigevilpeter wrote: »Girl_Number8 wrote: »Bigevilpeter wrote: »Haashhtaag wrote: »When people make a thread like this and truly have no idea about the game.
I have been playing this game since 2015; got 10 characters maxed out and endgame and have finished most content in this game, im pretty sure I know quite a lot about this game
Not really, If you did you wouldn't post such troll threads. I feel bad for all the players that got their classes hammered. An if you were doing true endgame content you would of had a magblade and a sorcy running around everyday.
Also, how is it smart being happy that they the nerfed classes that are there for you as well? Smh
Because I don't want to be forced to play only my Mageblade and Magsorc in endgame PvE, also what people arent noticing is the change in evasion buff, so if the healer uses gossamer all the party gets 25% aoe damage reduction even magicka characters which I think is OP.
I don't want to be forced to play templar or nightblade instead. I want to play my sorc.Vaerah, Dark Elf Magicka Sorceress
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