The first Mounts Rally Championship! Mounts speed comparison.

Ermiq · October 2018

Hi there!
Since I constantly notice my horse, guar and kagouti mounts are getting slow down while running through obstacles, landing from cliffs, and since some people say it's just an optical illusion because of specific mount's animations and all mounts have actually the same speed (no doubt here, on ideally flat surface it's true) and there's no difference between different mounts, I decided to make this comparison.
Sure, those people still will be arguing that it's not an evidence and it doesn't change anything.
However, horse (the only mount which is not hidden behind pay wall) is the slowest mount in this game when the route has obstacles and cliffs, and all mounts which don't stutter, don't slow down are not available in-game if you don't spend some crowns to get them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_feIqnTwBE&feature=youtu.be

Recremen · October 2018

While it's great to try and get evidence for your hypothesis your methodology needs a lot of work. Without a pre-scripted input (which would break ToS anyway) all of your speed differences could be explained as human error. For instance, at 2:27 your horse is actually ahead of your bear, but then you go off the rock differently and lose a bunch of time on the horse. We can, however, at least see some visual evidence of the delay on landing, and especially with the guar, kagouti, and horse clip around 1:29. Could just be a trick of the camera but who knows. I'd say the testing is inconclusive but merits further, more formalized study.

Katahdin · October 2018

I agree with @Recremen

To adequately test, you would need numerous runs (30+) on each type of mount over the exact same path, the exact same way. A timer that starts exactly when you hit the sprint button and stops at exactly the same place every time. No delay of human nature/variability etc.

I have run in groups of various mounts in Cyrodill hundreds of times and found no evidence of one type of mount getting left behind over other types of mounts.
Yes horses might get hung up more often but overall they are not left in the dust.

magictucktuck · October 2018

idk if anyone ever tested it at different points in speed and i know it could be in my head, but i always feel faster around 45-50 points in speed and then as soon as i hit 60 i feel slower. but i know it could be me just getting used to it or something but it has bugged me for a long time, its been noticeable on multiple toons

Loralai_907 · October 2018

In my head, the kitty mounts are the fastest. I'm sure that isn't true, it just seems like it to me because their movement in general flows better than a lot of other mounts movements.

Katahdin · October 2018

mommadani907 wrote: »

In my head, the kitty mounts are the fastest. I'm sure that isn't true, it just seems like it to me because their movement in general flows better than a lot of other mounts movements.

I think they seem faster because they are lower to the ground. I agree they do seem to run smoother.

sedi · October 2018

None of this matters because Indriks will teleport to the finish line soon 😜

Recremen · October 2018

sedi wrote: »

None of this matters because Indriks will teleport to the finish line soon 😜

... but leave their riders behind.

firedrgn · October 2018

Just race to either side of map a few times. I am willing to bet the times will average out to who cares amount of time.

Arkangeloski · October 2018

Guar mounts jump over obstacles better.

Ermiq · October 2018

@Recremen

Recremen wrote: »

For instance, at 2:27 your horse is actually ahead of your bear, but then you go off the rock differently and lose a bunch of time on the horse.

As you can see at 1:43 the horse getting off the rock exactly the same way as it does at 2:27. It's not my fault nor different riding.
In that place I just press jump button to jump on the rocks (on every mount) and then I let the mount to get down from those rocks just holding W+Shift. It's not me doing it differently, it's the horse makes it slower than other mounts, both times.

The horse was ahead of the bear because the bear slowed down after landing before the rocks, it also did the same at 1:32 in Round 1 (and there the bear also lost the time in comparison with a senche). So, again, it's not me, it's how the bear lands while falling from that particular cliff.

Speaking of automatic measurements and more synthetic tests, well, as you said, I can't do that. Though I'm sure the results would be the same.

Fischblut · October 2018

While it's great to try and get evidence for your hypothesis your methodology needs a lot of work. Without a pre-scripted input (which would break ToS anyway) all of your speed differences could be explained as human error. For instance, at 2:27 your horse is actually ahead of your bear, but then you go off the rock differently and lose a bunch of time on the horse. We can, however, at least see some visual evidence of the delay on landing, and especially with the guar, kagouti, and horse clip around 1:29. Could just be a trick of the camera but who knows.

I agree.
You would need not only script, but also perfectly flat road and no lag (I saw your Nix Ox slow down before jumping off, the mount normally shouldn't do it). Perfectly flat road is needed cause guar/kagouti and horse/elk mount types indeed stop after jumping

They will seem slower if your route includes jumping, but this affects the riding time itself, not their actual speed capability.

However I do not believe in speed difference, cause many times I see people riding their horse next to my senche (when both are at max speed) in Cyrodiil and we keep same distance/speed if we don't have to jump

See why guar and horse can seem slower:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJs8AEIg6VA

MrGarlic · October 2018

I did a speed comparison of different mounts about a month ago in another thread. The terrain was flat though to avoid any jumping anomalies. I do believe mount landing does differ slightly though. It seems as though the jump recovery is slightly slower on some mounts.

I could try this again but will have to wait until ZOS fixes my random ping as that will have a detrimental affect on whether I can jump in the right spot or not.

Here are the results from my own testing.

MrGarlic wrote: »

Rider - Wood Elf.
Mount skills maxed.
Wind running passive active (ie: 120CP in Lover)
No other speed buffs except as detailed below.

On PC/NA. Test track is from Honrich Tower Wayshrine to Riften Wayshrine along the main road. Same route each time. Rapids reapplied at 1 sec duration remaining. No jumping.

All times in seconds.

Doom Wolf Mount
Without Rapids - 102s
With Rapids - 80s

Sorrel Horse
Without Rapids - 102s
With Rapids - 80s

Dwarven Spider
Without Rapids - 103s
With Rapids - 80s

Green Narsis Guar
Without Rapids - 102s
With Rapids - 80s

Hammerfell Camel.
Without Rapids - 103s
With Rapids - 80s

Nix-Ox War Steed
Without Rapids - 103s
With Rapids - 80s

Leopard Senche
Without Rapids - 103s
With Rapids - 80s

ON PC/EU SERVER. Same conditions. No point testing all mounts I have.
Gorne Striped Wolf
Without Rapids - 103s
With Rapids - 80s

(Margin for error +/- 1s)

Conclusion:

All mounts have the same speed.

Ermiq · October 2018

@Fischblut @MrGarlic Guys, I believe the speed on flat surface is the same for all mounts, I have no doubts on that.
Here I made a route full of obstacles purposely, to show all these slowing downs on obstacles and acceleration delays after landing.

MrGarlic · October 2018

Eremith wrote: »

@Fischblut @MrGarlic Guys, I believe the speed on flat surface is the same for all mounts, I have no doubts on that.
Here I made a route full of obstacles purposely, to show all these slowing downs on obstacles and acceleration delays after landing.

I know, and I agree with you too. Some mounts do 'stumble' on landing at times and take a moment to recover their speed.