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PTS Update 20 - Feedback Thread for Templar
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Minno✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭can anyone explain me this?:
https://1drv.ms/v/s!AgnbTcTXhE9eiipbVl1kIrYH9TXx
No idea what that is, sorry.
radiant procs valkyn and caluurions
that's working as intended. Jesus beam is a single target channel with a DOT component.Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
- Guild-lead for MV
- Filthy Casual0 -
JimmyJuJu✭✭✭✭Blazing shield is a dead and buried skill.
No one ever visits its grave anymore, Even the R.I.P has faded from the tombstone.
*halloween mood
Jokes aside, can we please have something else to replace it? Something new, shiny and exciting to play with?
Right now, imo, the skill is not worth nor Devs' nor player's time to even look at it.
I would welcome a mag & stam version of a radial fear or stun skill (affecting up for 4? enemies). Forget anything that looks like a shield.
Mag = 5m radial stun
Stam = 5m radial fear
That would be so good.
A fear sounds good, Gotta fear that holy light, right?
It will make up a bit for the loss of Blinding Flashes a loooooong time ago.
My thought exactly. If I walked up to somebody IRL and they clapped their hands and blinding light came from their body, I would sh*t my pants. So, fear makes total sense
LOL, awesome.
And being radial but limited to 5 m will leave counter play in PvP while providing an AoE crowd control tool in PvE for Templar Tanks, since they are seriously lacking in that department. And templars in general are lacking a hard CC in their toolkit.
I pre-love this skill. But which is more likely:- An infinite coffee maker
- Pigs flying, both with & without wings
- The Second Coming (or the First, if you are Jewish)
- A radial hard CC skill in the Templar toolkit
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Soris✭✭✭✭✭
✭I think Blazing Shield is not a skill need to be removed/changed. It just need an update for PvP. It is still decent in PvE.
If anything, Focused Charge or that Healing Ritual can be removed for an AoE stun/fear.
Or they can just add aoe fear to Blazing Spears, which is much more "cost & time effective" for them. Considering it had stun before, they probably have the code hiding somewhere in their archiveEdited by Soris on October 1, 2018 9:58PMWelkynd [Templar/AD/EU]0 -
JimmyJuJu✭✭✭✭Well, doesn't hurt to try
This is true.
@Joy_Division Throwing it out there to completely overhaul the Sun Shield line and implement a radial CC skill like. Spear is OK, but it's not strictly "crowd" control. A radial CC based on the caster location would dovetail perfectly with sweeps and the brawler play-style of the Templar. Thanks!0 -
Joy_Division✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Lieblingsjunge wrote: »@Joy_Division
Since you seem to be the to-go-to person regarding templar-issues.. Is this something that will be fixed? Referring to the "being stuck in HA-animation without actually holding down LMB". Then you see that all damage pops out at once, and later the animations make 0 sense(3 random damage hits??) and weaving becomes close to impossible. This happens against dummies, bosses and players. (In addition to the other hitbox-issues with jabs...)
Will this.. like.. ever be looked into? x.x
https://youtu.be/9vdekKR_wfY
(Be so kind and ignore the music/sound/no intro. It's just cut raw material I uploaded directly >/<)
Edit: Also, rip. I didn't realise I was in the PTS feedback thread, whoops. I am sorrriiii.
Ah yes, I know that issue all to well. I do suggest putting in the official bug thread.Make Rush of Agony "Monsters only." People should not be consecutively crowd controlled in a PvP setting. Period.0 -
Cinbri✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Nerf to Blazing Shield is good thing. The harder already dead skill will be nerfed - the higher chance that in following update it will be completely overhauled into something really usefull.4 -
Checkmath✭✭✭✭✭
✭I finally got time to have a look in here again, damn military service. I will be back soon tough and will read more about all your templar concerns. Thx Joy for writing up the collection of feedback from the templar discord with some additions and explaining.
@Lieblingsjunge you can also ask me about anything regarding templars.
Well blazing shield now really looks terrible....
Guys I am soon back and give 100% again as class rep, stay tuned and patient, we will get the templar class back in shape
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Lieblingsjunge✭✭✭✭✭
✭I finally got time to have a look in here again, damn military service. I will be back soon tough and will read more about all your templar concerns. Thx Joy for writing up the collection of feedback from the templar discord with some additions and explaining.
@Lieblingsjunge you can also ask me about anything regarding templars.
Well blazing shield now really looks terrible....
Guys I am soon back and give 100% again as class rep, stay tuned and patient, we will get the templar class back in shape
Yay! The more to speak for the templars, the better. But now that you're here... Is anything being done to the jabs/weaving? Not sure if you watched the video I posted, but it's the thing that makes me discard jabs as a functioning skill and resort to crushing shock/clench spam and ignore the class-identifying skill that's jabs. Because reacting to incoming damage while being stuck in an animation isn't enjoyable.
And why the snip the changes to Blazing Shield.... As if anyone used it. Well, there's one person in EU/PC Vicec that i know uses it. An AD templar. Except him/her, I never see it used. It did damage if everyone stacked damage sources on it, but that was it's entire point though
Hope to have you back full-time soon, @Checkmath o/Edited by Lieblingsjunge on October 2, 2018 11:01AMIgnorance is the greatest weapon of tyranny.
PC - EU.
Lieblingsjunge(AD) - Racechanged Argonian :< | AR 50 - No double AP or Bleakers involved |
Sits-On-Cacti(DC) - Problem?
Fail-With-Tail(AD) - Healing Springs-spammer :<
Tiny Liebs(EP) - Very Tiny. Also heals.
Lieblingsmädchen(DC) - Magplar is love.
The Dominàtrix(AD) - Chains, whip, whip, whip.
Fluffy Furball Kitten(DC) - Kittycat, meow.
Your Face(EP) - People make bad jokes about my name =(
Liebs-With-Trees(AD) - Male argo with a big tail :>
Officer/Sandwitch of Zerg Squad
My title: The Maneater, Destroyer of Maneuvers, Bane of Potatoes, she who devours them, The Black Hole, the humorless, first of her name.0 -
katorga✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭And why the snip the changes to Blazing Shield....
I think they screwed up the nerf, and changed the wrong thing. When I saw the notes on Bone Shield, I was sure they were going to change the increase to shield size based on number of players near/hit for BOTH morphs to keep the size capped. The nerf to damage and its justification makes ZERO sense.
The shields don't "scale with armor"; the shield value does not get larger based on your armor mitigation percentage; LESS damage hits the same size shield.1 -
JimmyJuJu✭✭✭✭I finally got time to have a look in here again, damn military service. I will be back soon tough and will read more about all your templar concerns. Thx Joy for writing up the collection of feedback from the templar discord with some additions and explaining.
@Lieblingsjunge you can also ask me about anything regarding templars.
Well blazing shield now really looks terrible....
Guys I am soon back and give 100% again as class rep, stay tuned and patient, we will get the templar class back in shape
Thank you for your service - all around 1 -
Pelican✭✭✭✭✭Radial sweep's range needs to be increased to 8m, that skill can barely hit anything point blank.
Also its sad that a heavy stamblade wearing impregnable armor can hit harder than a light magplar running something like axiom+shackle.PC NA - EP Solo PvP Player
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Minno✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Radial sweep's range needs to be increased to 8m, that skill can barely hit anything point blank.
Also its sad that a heavy stamblade wearing impregnable armor can hit harder than a light magplar running something like axiom+shackle.
Agreed.Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
- Guild-lead for MV
- Filthy Casual1 -
JimmyJuJu✭✭✭✭
Except for that tiny window at <10% health when jesus beam hits like a truck. Of course, getting to that 10% threshold takes a long time and a 40k magicka pool - with a high likelihood of getting burst down first. Especially by stamblades.1 -
fullheartcontainer✭✭✭✭If anything, Focused Charge or that Healing Ritual can be removed for an AoE stun/fear.
Whoa there. Both of those abilities are on my bar right now. Focused Charge might be buggy but damn it, it's the only mobility I've got. It's also a magicka gap closer, which is *amazing*. As for healing ritual, I run a heal/tank build and that's actually a super great heal for bursting allies around you.
As much as they're nerfing the already dead Blazing Shield, they should just remove it and use that slot for something else. It's super obvious ZOS doesn't want us having a shield.
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Checkmath✭✭✭✭✭
✭About blazing shield....yeah its already a dead skill. Mostly user by templar tanks (if used at all), which profit from resistances now apply to shields too, therefore the nerf.
I pushed Joy to add the suggestion of increasing radial sweeps radius in his notes before the last meeting. So that is already handed in to the devs.
Abouts jabs: there is already improvement regarding aiming while rooted. Still i understand Lieblings issues with using the skill, since the hitbox is very dependent on server-client-stuff too. I think Joy added a suggestions about making jabs singletarget with splash damage, which would solve the problem. But that is only a suggestion and i am not a huge fan of that one. I know, that evasion will be a counter to our signature skill, but i love this skill so much, that i do not like it changed like this (damage, healing and casttime can change, but i just love the area effect and animation (totally biased here ^^)).0 -
Lieblingsjunge✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes! That's exactly the thing about jabs. It's an amazing skill, I love it. It's class identifying, and it's got kinda cool animations too. But the bugs with it just... Idk. It's triggering. Cus the skill itself is unique, and I honestly like it.
Hitbox feels clunky at times, you get stuck in weird animations.. Idk. This skill could be so amazing, but instead it's just awkward to use. No matter how great it looks/Feels/seems. x.xIgnorance is the greatest weapon of tyranny.
PC - EU.
Lieblingsjunge(AD) - Racechanged Argonian :< | AR 50 - No double AP or Bleakers involved |
Sits-On-Cacti(DC) - Problem?
Fail-With-Tail(AD) - Healing Springs-spammer :<
Tiny Liebs(EP) - Very Tiny. Also heals.
Lieblingsmädchen(DC) - Magplar is love.
The Dominàtrix(AD) - Chains, whip, whip, whip.
Fluffy Furball Kitten(DC) - Kittycat, meow.
Your Face(EP) - People make bad jokes about my name =(
Liebs-With-Trees(AD) - Male argo with a big tail :>
Officer/Sandwitch of Zerg Squad
My title: The Maneater, Destroyer of Maneuvers, Bane of Potatoes, she who devours them, The Black Hole, the humorless, first of her name.0 -
JimmyJuJu✭✭✭✭Regarding sweeps:...but i just love the area effect and animation (totally biased here ^^)).
Yes. I tend to think this is the main reason all Templar fans love the class. IfLieblingsjunge wrote: »Yes! That's exactly the thing about jabs. It's an amazing skill, I love it. It's class identifying, and it's got kinda cool animations too. But the bugs with it just... Idk. It's triggering. Cus the skill itself is unique, and I honestly like it.
Hitbox feels clunky at times, you get stuck in weird animations.. Idk. This skill could be so amazing, but instead it's just awkward to use. No matter how great it looks/Feels/seems. x.x
Don't take away my jabs. You think the magsorcs are howling about sheeelds? Try taking away jabs. Rage quit!0 -
Lightspeedflashb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭TheNightflame wrote: »Give blazing shield morph blinding flashes effect
Zos has stated no passive miss chance.0 -
Elsterchen✭✭✭✭✭
✭@Checkmath regarding the new targeting of jabs... I hope it works on live, on PTS I got 10-12 FPS -> testing is really difficult. (It seems to work as intended in 1 out of 10 cases, but idk wether the times its not working are up to lag, poor player /system performance or intentional)
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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JimmyJuJu✭✭✭✭Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »TheNightflame wrote: »Give blazing shield morph blinding flashes effect
Zos has stated no passive miss chance.
A stun or fear effect fits well within the current game rules and would be a welcome addition to the Templar's rather weak CC options. Clap them hands together and watch the zerglings scurry 0 -
technohic✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭TheNightflame wrote: »Give blazing shield morph blinding flashes effect
I'd rather solar barrage stay weak damage wise, give the new evasion, and remove roots and snares on pulse.
Too much?0 -
JimmyJuJu✭✭✭✭TheNightflame wrote: »Give blazing shield morph blinding flashes effect
I'd rather solar barrage stay weak damage wise, give the new evasion, and remove roots and snares on pulse.
Too much?
Immunity on cast, sure. On pulse - along with empower - maybe too much.
That said, I have found excellent utility timing solar barrage + proxy det + elemental ring on a bomber build. Add grothdarr, eye of flame, and vicious death in there and you can get incredible AoE damage if you time it right. Try it out in mist form on a vamplar and await the hate tells 1 -
Zer0oo✭✭✭✭✭
✭hi pve mag meta players
- Update 23Ice Furnace: This item set now grants Spell Damage, rather than Weapon Damage for the 4 piece bonus0 -
Gnortranermara✭✭✭✭✭
✭I think Joy added a suggestions about making jabs singletarget with splash damage, which would solve the problem.
That would be amazing. Make the skill lock onto a single target and then simply base the AOE for the splash on what the original hitbox would've been. Yes, there are some disadvantages to requiring a target to lock onto, but it's worth it if we can keep that target in our crosshairs. It may be necessary to let them dodge to break the target lock for balance in PvP. Still, I'm all for it.0
gonna miss my crescent sweep. Goodbye, friend. 