Nerf Dawnbreaker

  • karekiz
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    Only....

    If you nerf dmg vs WW/Vamps only.

    Don't touch my PvE damage.
  • TequilaFire
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    It never ends, if they nerf Dawnbreaker you will be back asking for the next ult everyone slots to be nerfed.
    Novel thought spec and learn defense. ;)
  • qbit
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    Didn’t read post or thread. Just saw a call for a nerf and came here to tell OP to be careful what he/she wishes for. Next nerf might be to his character.
  • ezio45
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    yes bring dawn breaker in line with meteor, and nerf snipe and lethal arrow while you at it


    of course this wont happen while wrobel is incharge
  • qbit
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    Nerf sorc so light attack causes 1 damage point if it was performed within 2 seconds of a slotted ability. Only apply to sorcerer class. Seems legit to me.
    Edited by qbit on September 28, 2018 12:20AM
  • TequilaFire
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    Don't for get to mess with Wrath/Implosion then! lol
    Salty sorcs. smh
  • qbit
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    Don't for get to mess with Wrath/Implosion then! lol
    Salty sorcs. smh

    As a magsorc main in PvE, I don’t use either. FYI
  • Alpheu5
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    ghwaite wrote: »
    How about undo all nerfs and start again from the start :smiley:

    Light and heavy attacks only, with Morrowind attack-success RNG.
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  • TequilaFire
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    qbit wrote: »
    Don't for get to mess with Wrath/Implosion then! lol
    Salty sorcs. smh

    As a magsorc main in PvE, I don’t use either. FYI

    Good for you, but I would use the best execute in the game.
  • MaxJrFTW
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    Now they're taking Crescent Sweep away from Stamplars, so here i go Dawnbreaker. They just love taking options away from stamina based builds. Every stam build in the game is practically the same except for a couple of class abilities.

    "As stamina builds already have a bursty option with Dawnbreaker, we wanted Magicka Templars to have access to a similar option with Crescent Sweep. This also expands the options for Stamina Templars to have a more defensive Ultimate from Empowering Sweep to help fulfill the brawler playstyle."

    Because magplars totally have no access to Meteor, Nova, and Elemental Storm. Guess they needed even more options, meanwhile forcing stamina builds to use Dawnbreaker...No stamina templar will use empowering sweep because it does no dmg whatsoever, and we have much better defensive options in Remembrance, Shield Wall if you use 1h and shield, Devouring Swarm if you're a vamp, and Undo from the Psijic line.
    Edited by MaxJrFTW on September 28, 2018 12:29AM
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  • RPGplayer13579
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    My Characters.

    Mike Snow - Imperial - Templar - One-Handed and Shield - Tank - Daggerfall Covenant - Commander.
    Catelyn Rivers - Breton - Sorcerer - Destruction Staff - Daggerfall Covenant - Telvanni Magister.
    Ashara Sand - Redguard - Warden - Two-Handed/One-Handed and Shield - Daggerfall Covenant - Heroic.
    Tormund gro-Largash - Orsimer - Dragonknight - Two-Handed - Daggerfall Covenant - Furious.
    Lysa Rivers - Breton - Nightblade - Bow/One-Handed and Shield - Vampire - Daggerfall Covenant - Brassy Assassin.

    Jon Karstark - Nord - Dragonknight - Two-Handed - Ebonheart Pact - Drunk.
    Arya Sand - Dunmer - Dragonknight - Dual Wield - Ebonheart Pact - Assassin.
    Sansa Snow - Impeial - Warden - Destruction Staff/One-Handed and Shield - Ebonheart Pect - Swashbuckler.
    Jojen Reed-Walker - Argonian - Templar - Restoration Staff - Healer - Ebonheart Pact - Melancholy.
    Alys Karstark - Nord - Nightblade - Bow/Dual Wield - Ebonheart Pact - Minstrel.

    Nymeria Woods - Bosmer - Nightblade - Bow - Aldmeri Dominion - Thief.
    Brandon Wings - Altmer - Templar - Restoration Staff - Healer - Aldmeri Dominion - Scholar.
    Lyanna Flowers - Altmer - Sorcerer - Sword/Destruction Staff - Aldmeri Dominion - Duchess.
    Marvolo-jo Riddle - Khajiit - Necromancer - Destruction Staff - Aldmeri Dominion - Deadlands Firewalker.
    Obara Woods - Bosmer - Templar - Bow - Werewolf - Aldmeri Dominion - Cheerful.

  • JinMori
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    Clearly not biased...

    Dude, you play ww, you take the good and the bad, the bad is that you take more damage from certain abilities.
  • ccfeeling
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    This is not a class base skill , if you feel pain in WW form , maybe use back human form :D
  • Ragnarock41
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    Or fix the bloody leap so I don't have to go dbos.
  • ArchMikem
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    I dont care about Dawnbreaker, but the stun morph needs to go.
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  • pteam
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    lol at all the kiddies on this forum asking for nerfs every week....
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  • WaltherCarraway
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    Stacking DB could be annoying but DB is fine imho
    Back from my last hiatus. 2021 a new start.
  • TheInfernalRage
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    Another nerf request because he chose the path that is directly within the full power of an ultimate. That's Dawnbreaker. You're a Werewolf. Deal with it.
  • RPGplayer13579
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    I dont care about Dawnbreaker, but the stun morph needs to go.

    What would you replace it with?
    My Characters.

    Mike Snow - Imperial - Templar - One-Handed and Shield - Tank - Daggerfall Covenant - Commander.
    Catelyn Rivers - Breton - Sorcerer - Destruction Staff - Daggerfall Covenant - Telvanni Magister.
    Ashara Sand - Redguard - Warden - Two-Handed/One-Handed and Shield - Daggerfall Covenant - Heroic.
    Tormund gro-Largash - Orsimer - Dragonknight - Two-Handed - Daggerfall Covenant - Furious.
    Lysa Rivers - Breton - Nightblade - Bow/One-Handed and Shield - Vampire - Daggerfall Covenant - Brassy Assassin.

    Jon Karstark - Nord - Dragonknight - Two-Handed - Ebonheart Pact - Drunk.
    Arya Sand - Dunmer - Dragonknight - Dual Wield - Ebonheart Pact - Assassin.
    Sansa Snow - Impeial - Warden - Destruction Staff/One-Handed and Shield - Ebonheart Pect - Swashbuckler.
    Jojen Reed-Walker - Argonian - Templar - Restoration Staff - Healer - Ebonheart Pact - Melancholy.
    Alys Karstark - Nord - Nightblade - Bow/Dual Wield - Ebonheart Pact - Minstrel.

    Nymeria Woods - Bosmer - Nightblade - Bow - Aldmeri Dominion - Thief.
    Brandon Wings - Altmer - Templar - Restoration Staff - Healer - Aldmeri Dominion - Scholar.
    Lyanna Flowers - Altmer - Sorcerer - Sword/Destruction Staff - Aldmeri Dominion - Duchess.
    Marvolo-jo Riddle - Khajiit - Necromancer - Destruction Staff - Aldmeri Dominion - Deadlands Firewalker.
    Obara Woods - Bosmer - Templar - Bow - Werewolf - Aldmeri Dominion - Cheerful.

  • Jameliel
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    Hard for me to tell what's getting used to kill me due to lag. Most of the time, I seem to be doing fine in battle, then all of a sudden skills stop responding, my rss are drained to 0, and I'm laying there dead. Looking at recap there are always a bunch of attacks that hit at once, and usually DB is at least one of them. Nerf lag, Nerf unresponsive skills, Nerf Wrobel and all the other Nerfers.
    Edited by Jameliel on September 28, 2018 1:36AM
  • Crixus8000
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    Not sure what nerf would make most classes change ults without completely destroying dawnbreaker. The reason is it used by almost all stam chars is because it's such a well balanced ult. Yes I don't think it's op, it's just that most other ults suck and could do with some changes.
  • Finviuswe
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    I dont care about Dawnbreaker, but the stun morph needs to go.

    Interesting and valid take.

    Just due to the stun, it is overperforming. But without it, no issue.

    Well as I already says I certainly don't think it is (objectively) overperforming, but alternate points of view are, indeed always appreciated!
  • Chrlynsch
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    JinMori wrote: »
    Clearly not biased...

    Dude, you play ww, you take the good and the bad, the bad is that you take more damage from certain abilities.

    Clearly you can't read...
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  • rfennell_ESO
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    It's hard to say if Dawnbreaker damage is overpowered or not.

    The reason the bulk of pvpers are using it is because it can be made totally invisible (no counterplay) with animation cancelling...
  • kypranb14_ESO
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    How to "balance" DBoS:

    At the base cost of 125 Ult, it does it's direct damage to all enemies within range, but no bleed.

    At 150 Ultimate it picks up it's bleed component.

    At 175 Ultimate it also stuns.

    </Sarcasm>
  • Chrlynsch
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    Another nerf request because he chose the path that is directly within the full power of an ultimate. That's Dawnbreaker. You're a Werewolf. Deal with it.
    Do better...

    Dawnbreaker should be the best choice ultimate against werewolf and vampires.

    It should not be the best choice against every enemy in the game.
    Caius
    Pack Leader of Scourge Alliance- First Fang of Hircine, The Beast of Bruma
    PC NA
  • BlackLabel
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    No
  • Kadoin
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    I'm not a vampire or werewolf on all my chars specifically because of dawnbreaker and disease/fire damage. Without that, why would I not be one?
  • Silver_Strider
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    Will Destro Ultimate also be nerfed, because I die to that just as much as I die to Dawnbreaker.

    The simple truth is that, there are all of 3 good Stamina Ultimates in this game (2 of which are class locked and 1 of them is always glitching out every other patch). The Dual Wield and 2h Ultis are weaker than Dawnbreaker, cost more and offer no real utility, whereas the Bow Ultimate is just too costly for what amounts to a Single target DoT.

    Buff up the other Weapon Ultimates a bit, lower their costs and maybe you'll start seeing something other than Dawnbreaker in your death recap.
    Argonian forever
  • Emma_Overload
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    Make Meteor instant!
    #CAREBEARMASTERRACE
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