An example why sorcerer shields need something done to them and why overload needed nerfed

Jake1576 · September 2018

https://youtu.be/vWOlXk0Zqvc someone explain to me why sorcerer's should be able to to have all that defense and hit like a truck I hope zos keeps some counter play to shields and goes through with the overload light attack Nerf

Micah_Bayer · September 2018

So cp 100's sand 200's and 300's getting wrecked by max cp while none of them break free or try to heal. Yeah great representation.

Jake1576 · September 2018

Micah_Bayer wrote: »

So cp 100's sand 200's and 300's getting wrecked by max cp while none of them break free or try to heal. Yeah great representation.

In this particular video they maybe low cp but this dude hits like this on Max cp player's also for a matter of fact his overload is one if the best things he is know for on PS4 na overload in my opinion it needed to be toned down I'm just happy it was and shields need some sort of counter play to them this is ridiculous all this guy is doing is spamming two buttons shields and overload light attack and looks like a pro there isn't really even any skill that goes into it honestly

Micah_Bayer · September 2018

You realize one of the enemies he was fighting in the video was also a mag sorc. And he killed that magsorc in 2 seconds. Maybe its not the class...maybe it's just that those enemies he was fighting never have fought in cyrodiil before because my god. Not one rally...not ONE VIGOR look at it yourself no one healed themselves or tried to roll dodge except the last guy who dodged like 10 attacks lol. Dodging is very effective. Just dodge and he will miss all his attacks..did you not see the same video?

Kikke · September 2018

a stamina warden can go up to a group of 10 and delete them from the very existance within 1 global cd. Blaming on sorc for what looks like killing noobs one by one is just lol and show how much you actually know about the game.

Jake1576 · September 2018

Micah_Bayer wrote: »

You realize one of the enemies he was fighting in the video was also a mag sorc. And he killed that magsorc in 2 seconds. Maybe its not the class...maybe it's just that those enemies he was fighting never have fought in cyrodiil before because my god. Not one rally...not ONE VIGOR look at it yourself no one healed themselves or tried to roll dodge except the last guy who dodged like 10 attacks lol. Dodging is very effective. Just dodge and he will miss all his attacks..did you not see the same video?

The point is tho not everyone is a pro in pvp and might not have a lot of experience I don't think this should be one of the first things you encounter if you don't even know what you're doing in pvp it would be really off putting and would probably make someone not even want to return to pvp in this particular video they are new lower cp player's but he does this nonsense on Max cp and experience player's also it's just spam overload light attack spam shields spam overload light attack spam shields etc where is the difficulty in that

Alpheu5 · September 2018

Jake1576 wrote: »

Micah_Bayer wrote: »

You realize one of the enemies he was fighting in the video was also a mag sorc. And he killed that magsorc in 2 seconds. Maybe its not the class...maybe it's just that those enemies he was fighting never have fought in cyrodiil before because my god. Not one rally...not ONE VIGOR look at it yourself no one healed themselves or tried to roll dodge except the last guy who dodged like 10 attacks lol. Dodging is very effective. Just dodge and he will miss all his attacks..did you not see the same video?

The point is tho not everyone is a pro in pvp and might not have a lot of experience I don't think this should be one of the first things you encounter if you don't even know what you're doing in pvp it would be really off putting and would probably make someone not even want to return to pvp in this particular video they are news lower cp player's but he does this nonsense on Max cp and experience player's also it's just spam light overload light attack spam shields spam overload light attack spam shields etc where is the difficulty in that

There's a server for people below level 50 to get used to PvP. Game balance shouldn't be based on how experienced players fare against newbies.

Micah_Bayer · September 2018

Jake1576 wrote: »

Micah_Bayer wrote: »

You realize one of the enemies he was fighting in the video was also a mag sorc. And he killed that magsorc in 2 seconds. Maybe its not the class...maybe it's just that those enemies he was fighting never have fought in cyrodiil before because my god. Not one rally...not ONE VIGOR look at it yourself no one healed themselves or tried to roll dodge except the last guy who dodged like 10 attacks lol. Dodging is very effective. Just dodge and he will miss all his attacks..did you not see the same video?

The point is tho not everyone is a pro in pvp and might not have a lot of experience I don't think this should be one of the first things you encounter if you don't even know what you're doing in pvp it would be really off putting and would probably make someone not even want to return to pvp in this particular video they are news lower cp player's but he does this nonsense on Max cp and experience player's also it's just spam light overload light attack spam shields spam overload light attack spam shields etc where is the difficulty in that

I can pop vigor and rally and those players wouldn't even be able to dent me. They had no dmg simple as that. Shields do not scale at all in 1vx situations they would have rekt that mag sorc if they were decent at the game. This is obviously the first time they have pvped. Besides the stam nughtblade there would be more than enough to take a sorc out had he known what he was doing.

Kikke · September 2018

wait wait wait... So your proof is you using an ULTIMATE for GANKING of lesser players in cyro.

Again; how is this stronger than a stamina ult bomb, a NBs ult bomb? I can find movies of ANY class that ganks 4 players of lesser skill. Does not show anything about the class. says more of the players in cyro.

Jake1576 · September 2018

Micah_Bayer wrote: »

Jake1576 wrote: »

Micah_Bayer wrote: »

You realize one of the enemies he was fighting in the video was also a mag sorc. And he killed that magsorc in 2 seconds. Maybe its not the class...maybe it's just that those enemies he was fighting never have fought in cyrodiil before because my god. Not one rally...not ONE VIGOR look at it yourself no one healed themselves or tried to roll dodge except the last guy who dodged like 10 attacks lol. Dodging is very effective. Just dodge and he will miss all his attacks..did you not see the same video?

The point is tho not everyone is a pro in pvp and might not have a lot of experience I don't think this should be one of the first things you encounter if you don't even know what you're doing in pvp it would be really off putting and would probably make someone not even want to return to pvp in this particular video they are news lower cp player's but he does this nonsense on Max cp and experience player's also it's just spam light overload light attack spam shields spam overload light attack spam shields etc where is the difficulty in that

I can pop vigor and rally and those players wouldn't even be able to dent me. They had no dmg simple as that. Shields do not scale at all in 1vx situations they would have rekt that mag sorc if they were decent at the game. This is obviously the first time they have pvped. Besides the stam nughtblade there would be more than enough to take a sorc out had he known what he was doing.

I understand that maybe but I'm just saying as a whole tho zos has to look at how difficult fighting a sorcerer is for everyone not just pro's that know how to beat them and that's the reason why I think their should be counter play to shields and especially overload light attack not everyone is an experienced pvper experience doesn't even have anything to do with it either their are people who have Max cp and are experienced player's and they still get taken out by sorcerer's overload light attack's or can't get through a sorcerer's shields

AhPook_Is_Here · September 2018

Micah_Bayer wrote: »

So cp 100's sand 200's and 300's getting wrecked by max cp while none of them break free or try to heal. Yeah great representation.

Don't forget stand in ultimate. 3 of them were pros at that.

usmguy1234 · September 2018

Jake1576 wrote: »

Micah_Bayer wrote: »

You realize one of the enemies he was fighting in the video was also a mag sorc. And he killed that magsorc in 2 seconds. Maybe its not the class...maybe it's just that those enemies he was fighting never have fought in cyrodiil before because my god. Not one rally...not ONE VIGOR look at it yourself no one healed themselves or tried to roll dodge except the last guy who dodged like 10 attacks lol. Dodging is very effective. Just dodge and he will miss all his attacks..did you not see the same video?

The point is tho not everyone is a pro in pvp and might not have a lot of experience I don't think this should be one of the first things you encounter if you don't even know what you're doing in pvp it would be really off putting and would probably make someone not even want to return to pvp in this particular video they are new lower cp player's but he does this nonsense on Max cp and experience player's also it's just spam overload light attack spam shields spam overload light attack spam shields etc where is the difficulty in that

You realize that a lower the ceiling, raise the floor model is really bad for a mmo, right? It's healthy to admit that there will always be people better than you or just have more time to commit to playing. Take for example if you played a game of pick up vs a team that plays two or three games a day vs your team that plays once on the weekend... who would likely win? Yes, your team might get lucky and win but 9 times out of 10 the other team will win. Also, just as a side note, how you handle a loss says more about you than how you handle a victory.

webrgesner · September 2018

i was playing my magsorc today i got zerged down by only 3 people. After i cc break i put up 1 shield and ALL their damage went right through it in less than 1 sec and killed me. Can you imagine what thats like with the 1 sec cast time?! with my stamplar i can dodge roll cuz im stam AND i have vigor and rally i can survive 3 people easily

webrgesner · September 2018

if sorc can already get bursted quick i cant wait next patch

Micah_Bayer · September 2018

Jake1576 wrote: »

Micah_Bayer wrote: »

Jake1576 wrote: »

Micah_Bayer wrote: »

You realize one of the enemies he was fighting in the video was also a mag sorc. And he killed that magsorc in 2 seconds. Maybe its not the class...maybe it's just that those enemies he was fighting never have fought in cyrodiil before because my god. Not one rally...not ONE VIGOR look at it yourself no one healed themselves or tried to roll dodge except the last guy who dodged like 10 attacks lol. Dodging is very effective. Just dodge and he will miss all his attacks..did you not see the same video?

The point is tho not everyone is a pro in pvp and might not have a lot of experience I don't think this should be one of the first things you encounter if you don't even know what you're doing in pvp it would be really off putting and would probably make someone not even want to return to pvp in this particular video they are news lower cp player's but he does this nonsense on Max cp and experience player's also it's just spam light overload light attack spam shields spam overload light attack spam shields etc where is the difficulty in that

I can pop vigor and rally and those players wouldn't even be able to dent me. They had no dmg simple as that. Shields do not scale at all in 1vx situations they would have rekt that mag sorc if they were decent at the game. This is obviously the first time they have pvped. Besides the stam nughtblade there would be more than enough to take a sorc out had he known what he was doing.

I understand that maybe but I'm just saying as a whole tho zos has to look at how difficult fighting a sorcerer is for everyone not just pro's that know how to beat them and that's the reason why I think their should be counter play to shields and especially overload light attack not everyone is an experienced pvper experience doesn't even have anything to do with it either their are people who have Max cp and are experienced player's and they still get taken out by sorcerer's overload light attack's or can't get through a sorcerer's shields

I get what you're saying but that is if the implication that sorcerer is the best pvp class. They are not though. They are midtier

Karm1cOne · September 2018

What happens when these new players run into a good stamen? Sorcs are known potato mashers, and overload is an ultimate, of course it hits hard. And is dodgable, reflectable, and slow moving.

Apherius · September 2018

Yeah and Bomblade are fine, Vicious death, proxi deto, soul tether then sap sap.

Jake1576 wrote: »

where is the difficulty in that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3-uFxcC2bk

jaws343 · September 2018

Let's also ignore the fact the the Sorc is fighting on a resource with the help of guards doing damage and providing eclipse. Of course the other players lost.

grannas211 · September 2018

Jake1576 wrote: »

https://youtu.be/vWOlXk0Zqvc someone explain to me why sorcerer's should be able to to have all that defense and hit like a truck I hope zos keeps some counter play to shields and goes through with the overload light attack Nerf

This video proves what every Sorc has already known. They are great at smashing bad players. Not sure your point?

Emmagoldman · September 2018

Surprise attack into mines, good thinking! Also taking full aggro of the flag guards at low cp. You don't see competitive players using overload actively. Why do you think it's not used when fighting experienced players?

Yusuf · September 2018

I wish i would run into these kind of players. I could do something similar with EVERY class except warden (since i never played one)

And I'm BAD

Haashhtaag · September 2018

Lol at getting wrecked by an OL light attack build sorcerer. L2P

X3ina · September 2018

I hope you do understand that any dk could kill him by pressing literally 1 skill. Time to nerf them aswell ?

idk · September 2018

Jake1576 wrote: »

I hope zos keeps some counter play to shields and goes through with the overload light attack Nerf

Zos stated they will make shields not interruptible which removes any counterplay. One second activation is not counterplay, it just makes the skill useless.

It also means that if this hits live Zos will have to revert it after seeing how poorly they thought this one out or make it more difficult for stamina to use active dodge roll. It would be imbalanced for stam to have greater defenses.

I also have to agree with the post quoted below

grannas211 wrote: »

Jake1576 wrote: »

https://youtu.be/vWOlXk0Zqvc someone explain to me why sorcerer's should be able to to have all that defense and hit like a truck I hope zos keeps some counter play to shields and goes through with the overload light attack Nerf

This video proves what every Sorc has already known. They are great at smashing bad players. Not sure your point?

oxygen_thief · September 2018

is it a joke?

runagate · September 2018

Micah_Bayer wrote: »

So cp 100's sand 200's and 300's getting wrecked by max cp while none of them break free or try to heal. Yeah great representation.

LMAO

smh

LadyNalcarya · September 2018

Hmm so sorcs are OP. Okay, but even in your video there's a newbie sorc just melting and dying instantly.
My question: why did it happen if sorc shield presumably makes you invincible? Maybe it has something to do with the fact that its max cp player ganking noobs?

Haashhtaag · September 2018

He wasn’t even ganking.

ezio45 · September 2018

So what your saying is, magsorc can kill alot of players who are ALL half there level or below who are playing poorly..... with that sorcs ultimate.....

what about all those magblades with destro ultis that kill literally 15 players at one time that are all max lvl.... does that need a nerf? i mean at least sorcs terrible evil ultimate you have to kill them individually.....

what about stamblades who can do that exact same thing? who can rip through players half there lvl with ambush incap. does that need a nerf?

ZOS BTW THIS IS SARCASM, OVERLOAD DESTRO AND INCAP ALL DONT DESERVE A NERF

Hokiewa · September 2018

For the love of resplendent sweet rolls, buff your punctuation son!!!!

ccmedaddy · September 2018

Killing a bunch of potatoes while camping a friendly resource is something any class can do. And you don't even have to be that skilled.

If anyone thinks this clip is proof that magsorcs are OP in PvP then they need to learn how to not be horrible at this game before voicing their opinions on how to balance it.