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This was unexpected. What is it for?

If I had to guess, might it have something to do with Crown Store Gifting? If that is the case, that's remarkable that you could get a fix in so quickly--under 24 hours--and even take the server down for it! Surely this means that the next time you discover a major problem--e.g., breaking 6 item sets--you could revert the change that caused the bug in under 24 hours instead of waiting a whole week... right?
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  • pauli133
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    No, that doesn't follow.
  • MinarasLaure
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    code65536 wrote: »
    This was unexpected. What is it for?

    If I had to guess, might it have something to do with Crown Store Gifting? If that is the case, that's remarkable that you could get a fix in so quickly--under 24 hours--and even take the server down for it! Surely this means that the next time you discover a major problem--e.g., breaking 6 item sets--you could revert the change that caused the bug in under 24 hours instead of waiting a whole week... right?

    That is exactly what I thought lol.
    Praise Zo$!
  • weedgenius
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    Maybe they'll fix this guy while they're at it :innocent:
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  • Disturbed125
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    Man that would be nice.... most players would agree that if ZoS breaks something important they should just patch the fix in when they have it instead of waiting for the next Monday. Will we ever see it though? Probably not :/
    Edited by Disturbed125 on September 14, 2018 12:38AM
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  • Universe
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    ROFL when crown store is involved anything is possible :D

    It looks like they try to fix Crown Store gifting which is extremely bad for this game instead of trying to restrict and/or disallow it's usage.
    My opinion on the crown store gifting, which I recently posted in other discussion:
    Universe wrote: »
    I never accepted the current type of crown store gifting.
    Players were exploiting it left and right, selling numerous crown store items for gold.
    It is literally gold buying through the sale of crown store items.
    I hope that by taking down the crown store gifting for investigation, ZOS is considering how to restrict crown store gifting so it won't be exploited.

    While they said it's ok to trade crown store item for gold, it became ridiculous how fast players were accumulating massive amounts of gold.
    Maybe they finally changed their mind about this and restrict or disallow it by some manner.
    I suggested the following as the first step:
    "Please limit the number of gifts an account can deliver, for example:
    1 gift of 1-500 crowns per week.
    1 gift of 501-1,000 crowns per month.
    1 gift of 1,001-1,500 crowns per 2 months.
    1 gift of 1,501-3,000 crowns per 3 months.
    1 gift of 3,001-5,000+ crowns per 6 months. "
    Edited by Universe on September 14, 2018 12:46AM
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  • Leogon
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    Crown Store = Crunch Time
    Anything Else = Vacation Time
  • yiasemi
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    Excellent 6pm on a Friday night. What's up ESO, think everyone in Oz and Asia needs to get out more? :)
  • Undefwun
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    FIX SPRINT BUG
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  • Aurielle
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    code65536 wrote: »
    This was unexpected. What is it for?

    If I had to guess, might it have something to do with Crown Store Gifting? If that is the case, that's remarkable that you could get a fix in so quickly--under 24 hours--and even take the server down for it! Surely this means that the next time you discover a major problem--e.g., breaking 6 item sets--you could revert the change that caused the bug in under 24 hours instead of waiting a whole week... right?

    Perhaps, but wouldn’t servers be going down for patch maintenance (not just maintenance) if that were the case?

    Either way, I’m annoyed. I’m working all weekend and was looking forward to some early morning PVPing tomorrow. :( Would be nice to know why the servers are going down.

  • Seri
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    Aurielle wrote: »
    Either way, I’m annoyed. I’m working all weekend and was looking forward to some early morning PVPing tomorrow. :( Would be nice to know why the servers are going down.
    Given it's the only time some Oceanics get to play and there's very little wiggle room for missing days with this month's daily login, I can only assume ZOS is struggling to tax the NPCs high enough to pay out the 100k gold per person :tongue:
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  • Lysette
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    Given that it is a pain to login currently, i would say, it is desperately required to get rid of whatever is causing the unresponsiveness of login servers on PC NA at least. Character load and zoning into a region feels slow as well.
  • Glurin
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    Man that would be nice.... most players would agree that if ZoS breaks something important they should just patch the fix in when they have it instead of waiting for the next Monday. Will we ever see it though? Probably not :/

    There's important, there's game breaking, and then there's "Holy ***, this could be really, really bad."

    Important can wait until the next scheduled update. Game breaking can go either way depending on just how game breaking it is.

    But a sudden, unexpected server shutdown coupled with the disabling of one of the systems and a vague message of "Um, so, we kind of found an issue that we need to fix so we're gonna just turn that off for now"? Yeah, that kinda sounds like the third one.
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  • LadyLethalla
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    yiasemi wrote: »
    Excellent 6pm on a Friday night. What's up ESO, think everyone in Oz and Asia needs to get out more? :)

    It's 8pm east coast Australia.
    Not happy, Jan.
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  • Taleof2Cities
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    Haven’t seen @code65536 this riled up since jewelry crafting debuted on PTS ... B)
  • Chickenstein
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    Man that would be nice.... most players would agree that if ZoS breaks something important they should just patch the fix in when they have it instead of waiting for the next Monday. Will we ever see it though? Probably not :/

    So you're voting for the servers being more down than up?
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  • Elong
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    Remember that time they brought the servers down immediately to fix broken walls on keeps in Cyrodiil?

    Yeah me neither...
  • Emathides
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    Prime time in Australia - Thanks ZOS
  • Saepio
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    2000 Friday Night prime time East Coast Australia, way to go ZO$. Only reason this will be happening SO fast will be a crown store fix.
  • Undefwun
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    EITHER WAY FIX THE DAMN SPRINT BUG ZOS
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  • Universe
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    Undefwun wrote: »
    EITHER WAY FIX THE DAMN SPRINT BUG ZOS

    Sadly, it's not going to happen this time.
    This maintenance is not a patch maintenance.
    Edited by Universe on September 14, 2018 9:47AM
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  • Gythral
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    Regrettable this is a
    "We did not design the server software very well" outage, as it is clear that they cannot kill the crown store, patch it's code while still running the main server

    seems everyone uses M$ as an example of how to code when they should be using UNIX


    Edited by Gythral on September 14, 2018 9:45AM
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  • Melkoj
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    Anyone know if this is gonna be a long one ?
  • Aurielle
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    Glurin wrote: »
    Man that would be nice.... most players would agree that if ZoS breaks something important they should just patch the fix in when they have it instead of waiting for the next Monday. Will we ever see it though? Probably not :/

    There's important, there's game breaking, and then there's "Holy ***, this could be really, really bad."

    Important can wait until the next scheduled update. Game breaking can go either way depending on just how game breaking it is.

    But a sudden, unexpected server shutdown coupled with the disabling of one of the systems and a vague message of "Um, so, we kind of found an issue that we need to fix so we're gonna just turn that off for now"? Yeah, that kinda sounds like the third one.

    Funny how the “holy s***, this could be really bad” issues that get fixed immediately always seem to involve the Crown Store...
  • essi2
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    Melkoj wrote: »
    Anyone know if this is gonna be a long one ?

    No, not even ZOS knows.

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  • Mrsinister2
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    I just got booted off the server while at a master chest :#
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    Aurielle wrote: »
    code65536 wrote: »
    This was unexpected. What is it for?

    If I had to guess, might it have something to do with Crown Store Gifting? If that is the case, that's remarkable that you could get a fix in so quickly--under 24 hours--and even take the server down for it! Surely this means that the next time you discover a major problem--e.g., breaking 6 item sets--you could revert the change that caused the bug in under 24 hours instead of waiting a whole week... right?

    Perhaps, but wouldn’t servers be going down for patch maintenance (not just maintenance) if that were the case?

    Either way, I’m annoyed. I’m working all weekend and was looking forward to some early morning PVPing tomorrow. :( Would be nice to know why the servers are going down.

    Not necessarily. If it’s a server side issue that doesn’t need rebuilding the client then there will be no client patch.
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  • Finviuswe
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    Aurielle wrote: »

    Either way, I’m annoyed. I’m working all weekend and was looking forward to some early morning PVPing tomorrow. :( Would be nice to know why the servers are going down.

    You never know when they'll spring one of these on you like this
  • DanteYoda
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    yiasemi wrote: »
    Excellent 6pm on a Friday night. What's up ESO, think everyone in Oz and Asia needs to get out more? :)

    It's 8pm east coast Australia.
    Not happy, Jan.

    Doesn't matter i have a 400 ping time daily these days anyway.. can't play even when the servers up either way..
  • DreadKnight
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    yiasemi wrote: »
    Excellent 6pm on a Friday night. What's up ESO, think everyone in Oz and Asia needs to get out more? :)

    6pm here for me too Beijing time :( not good
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    As much as I would like to think that this is to fix an emergent datacenter issue, or a game exploit, I fear that it is to fix Crown Store gifting. :smile:
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