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Magicka Sorcerer PvP build "Bloody Vendetta" - I Define Op
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leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Septimus_Magna wrote: »The gear and skill combination doesnt really add up for me.
Axiom doesnt buff light attacks/reach/elemental weapon/ice comet plus it does little for shield size. You want to buff your strongest skills so you really miss out when you dont buff your ult dmg. You'd probably get more dmg from Julianos because it buffs all your dmg skills.
You only get sustain from EG, thats 2/3 of the time not magicka so I dont really know you sustain in out-numbered situations. Dark Conversion is easy to interrupt when you cannot LoS so its often not a reliable way to restore magicka. Besides, you'll be running into stam sustain issues if you have to break-free or dodge often.
Necropotence also works really well with Shadowrend, Lich on the back bar for sustain and Willpower/Master staff on the front bar to get more dmg. Tri-stat food and tri-stat glyphs on big armor pieces helps to get to 16k stamina.
Yeah i run that setup.
Shadowrend, lich, shackle, willpower inferno easy 50k magicka. Better sustain, better stamina etc..PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...0 -
Priyasekarssk✭✭✭✭✭I just don’t buy you win a 1v3 vs competent players with this. Granted, you don’t win that with a meta Sorc either - but that’s beside the point. I’ll give you that the build is something other than the stale Sorc meta, but that’s about it. As you say yourself:unless youre a MagSorc, or a more experienced player, itll take a few burst combo attempts to kill them.
It’s the same on any other Sorc. It’s the best Noob killer in the game.
Dude , OP is trolling and you people are very eager in responding as legit post. Just go and level up your Nb toon. Dont waste time here.0 -
ItsNebula✭✭✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »Septimus_Magna wrote: »The gear and skill combination doesnt really add up for me.
Axiom doesnt buff light attacks/reach/elemental weapon/ice comet plus it does little for shield size. You want to buff your strongest skills so you really miss out when you dont buff your ult dmg. You'd probably get more dmg from Julianos because it buffs all your dmg skills.
You only get sustain from EG, thats 2/3 of the time not magicka so I dont really know you sustain in out-numbered situations. Dark Conversion is easy to interrupt when you cannot LoS so its often not a reliable way to restore magicka. Besides, you'll be running into stam sustain issues if you have to break-free or dodge often.
Necropotence also works really well with Shadowrend, Lich on the back bar for sustain and Willpower/Master staff on the front bar to get more dmg. Tri-stat food and tri-stat glyphs on big armor pieces helps to get to 16k stamina.
Yeah i run that setup.
Shadowrend, lich, shackle, willpower inferno easy 50k magicka. Better sustain, better stamina etc..
Lich is a waste of a set, you dont get enough damage with it.
I have 50k Magicka and 3.3k Spell damage. Meta will never reach those stats.
I have 0 problem with sustain, so "better" sustain isnt a problem, nor really being relevant.0 -
Huggelz✭✭✭Is there a video of this build in action?Marcel
Marcel Rigmond DC Nightblade - Flawless Conqueror
Full Metal Carebears
Nemesis (RIP)0 -
ItsNebula✭✭✭✭✭16k health in pvp? 11k stam?
Oh, wow. Never gonna win a 1v1 against a good sorc who CCs on cooldown and is using mines so you cant heavy attack.
I always win against MagSorcs.. at least a good 80% of the duels. I usually always have the better damage, and my Stam recovery + EG and a heavy attack IF i even need to is fine.
Ive beat plenty of known and top tier magsorcs 1v1 with this build as well with no struggle0 -
ItsNebula✭✭✭✭✭Septimus_Magna wrote: »The gear and skill combination doesnt really add up for me.
Axiom doesnt buff light attacks/reach/elemental weapon/ice comet plus it does little for shield size. You want to buff your strongest skills so you really miss out when you dont buff your ult dmg. You'd probably get more dmg from Julianos because it buffs all your dmg skills.
You only get sustain from EG, thats 2/3 of the time not magicka so I dont really know you sustain in out-numbered situations. Dark Conversion is easy to interrupt when you cannot LoS so its often not a reliable way to restore magicka. Besides, you'll be running into stam sustain issues if you have to break-free or dodge often.
Necropotence also works really well with Shadowrend, Lich on the back bar for sustain and Willpower/Master staff on the front bar to get more dmg. Tri-stat food and tri-stat glyphs on big armor pieces helps to get to 16k stamina.
I sustain best in out numbered situations.
Harness Magicka is a blessing. Not many people bash Dark Conversion as well, and if ur CC immune they cant.
Ive never had stam sustain issues with this build either. Tri-Stat food and Glyphs youd lose way to much Magicka, making your shields a LOT weaker. And sustain would really then go to ass0 -
LukosCreyden✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I want videos. You claim this build is god tier, let us see some videos of it in action. Some good old 1v1's and 1vX's.Struggling to find a new class to call home.Please send help.0 -
Hutch679✭✭✭✭✭
✭This build so good I pvp long time. I make 1vx so easy now thanks to this build. I am God mode now i feel activated. Maximum recovery with power level 5000. To legit to quit. 80% of the duels I win 100% of the time. I will give you all my gold for this build. Thank you!4 -
GrigorijMalahevich✭✭✭✭✭I dOn’T nEeD tO wOrRy AbOuT rEaPpLyInG sHiElDs.
Well, his shields last for full 6 seconds and he can do 1-2 heavy snb attacks to gain full stam after breaking free and rolling!
I just don’t know what to say.
PC/EU 800 CP.
PvP MagSorc.Pedro Gonzales - Mag Sorc EP vMA Flawless Conqueror clear http://imgur.com/a/CB6j6
Valera Progib - Stam Sorc DC vMA Flawless Conqueror clear https://i.imgur.com/eYgpXG2.png
Valera Pozhar - Mag DK EP vMA Flawless Conqueror clear http://imgur.com/a/jrsuK
Valera Podlechi - Mag Templar AD vMA Flawless Conqueror clear http://imgur.com/a/N0BYq2 -
PhoenixGrey✭✭✭✭✭
✭If the plan is to play with 16k health, you might as well build for 60k+ mag ? .
I am not quite sure how those shields hold up in outnumbered situations even when stacked given you might not be dodge rolling a lot.0 -
Lylith✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭LeifErickson wrote: »I understand the benefits of having a shield on your front bar, but putting all your shields on back bar has huge advantages. They are different playstyles and saying it is a necessity to front bar a shield in order to beat good players is simply not true.
but when you can't barswap and you not ON that bar?
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Lexxypwns✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭This build so good I pvp long time. I make 1vx so easy now thanks to this build. I am God mode now i feel activated. Maximum recovery with power level 5000. To legit to quit. 80% of the duels I win 100% of the time. I will give you all my gold for this build. Thank you!
5000?
More like 5000 trillion1 -
Barbaran✭✭✭✭My only criticism is ele weapon. The animation slows down your rotation too much, any good player can out heal with the timing gaps or recover from a stun0
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pteam✭✭✭16k health, no impen gear, very minimal healing. Lmao!The Flawless Conqueror
Xbox NA - its pteam
Completed vDSA - vHRC HM - vAA HM - vSO HM - vMoL - vHoF HM - vCR +1 - vMA Flawless 585k - vAS +2 HM0 -
moosegod✭✭✭This build doesn't really seem groundbreaking, everyone and their Nix Hound has built a magsorc for max stats. Can survive with that hp by spamming shields and streaking away with all the magicka but once that runs dry it's over. Plus I'm pretty sure I fought a guy named I define op the other day and his stam sorc friend was the one doing all the work. The magsorc had to repeatedly flee the fight (I mean so did the stamsorc but he could last a little longer before zooming out). Personally not a fan of the hit and run play style. This set up may work for someone though if they're into that. Just replace axiom with something better. Even war maiden would be more useful.0 -
Siohwenoeht✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Edited by Siohwenoeht on September 8, 2018 4:15AM"It is a lovely language, but it takes a very long time saying anything in it, because we do not say anything in it, unless it is worth taking a long time to say, and to listen to." - Treebeard4 -
Waffennacht✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭This build so good I pvp long time. I make 1vx so easy now thanks to this build. I am God mode now i feel activated. Maximum recovery with power level 5000. To legit to quit. 80% of the duels I win 100% of the time. I will give you all my gold for this build. Thank you!
OMG I'm dead. You've killed me.
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Akinos✭✭✭✭✭
✭Is there a video of this build in action?
Don't think so. But i found the build video for his "so many people have asked me for this build i just don't know what to do with myself" build....which has more dislikes then likes on it xD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwbbHlJ18iE Edited by Akinos on September 8, 2018 3:34PMPC NA | @AkinosPvP 1vX/Small Scaler, Raid Leader, Youtuber and Twitch.tv Streamer.MAGICKA MELEE IS LIFE!Magplar, MagDK, Magden, Magblade, Magsorc & Magcro PvP/Build videos & moretwitch.tv/akinospvp0 -
The-Baconator✭✭✭✭LeifErickson wrote: »I understand the benefits of having a shield on your front bar, but putting all your shields on back bar has huge advantages. They are different playstyles and saying it is a necessity to front bar a shield in order to beat good players is simply not true.
but when you can't barswap and you not ON that bar?
If you're built with more than minimal stam recov you can use dodge roll to both extend offensive windows and recover from unexpected spike damage. All in all it just comes down to player preference, I know top tier players that run both and swear by both.First PS4 NA Grand Overlord, Stormproof, and Flawless Conqueror.
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Nicko_Lps✭✭✭✭✭Is there a video of this build in action?
Don't think so. But i found the build video for his "so many people have asked me for this build i just don't know what to do with myself" build....which has more dislike then likes on it xDhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwbbHlJ18iE
No...
Just no.0 -
Pijng✭✭✭The-Baconator wrote: »LeifErickson wrote: »I understand the benefits of having a shield on your front bar, but putting all your shields on back bar has huge advantages. They are different playstyles and saying it is a necessity to front bar a shield in order to beat good players is simply not true.
but when you can't barswap and you not ON that bar?
If you're built with more than minimal stam recov you can use dodge roll to both extend offensive windows and recover from unexpected spike damage. All in all it just comes down to player preference, I know top tier players that run both and swear by both.
But you won't name them because of name and shame policy0 -
ItsNebula✭✭✭✭✭PhoenixGrey wrote: »If the plan is to play with 16k health, you might as well build for 60k+ mag ? .
I am not quite sure how those shields hold up in outnumbered situations even when stacked given you might not be dodge rolling a lot.
The difference in shields from 50k Magicka to 60k is VERY small.. you get more damage with 3.4k spell damage i feel likeIs there a video of this build in action?
Don't think so. But i found the build video for his "so many people have asked me for this build i just don't know what to do with myself" build....which has more dislikes then likes on it xDhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwbbHlJ18iE
Youre the same guy TGM and i 2vX'd against speed kills and his 6 man right?
This is the same build from that 2vX too
Edit; Almost the same build, i dont use force anymore, and ive changed up a few enchants and poisionsEdited by ItsNebula on September 8, 2018 4:57PM0 -
Akinos✭✭✭✭✭
✭PhoenixGrey wrote: »If the plan is to play with 16k health, you might as well build for 60k+ mag ? .
I am not quite sure how those shields hold up in outnumbered situations even when stacked given you might not be dodge rolling a lot.
The difference in shields from 50k Magicka to 60k is VERY small.. you get more damage with 3.4k spell damage i feel likeIs there a video of this build in action?
Don't think so. But i found the build video for his "so many people have asked me for this build i just don't know what to do with myself" build....which has more dislikes then likes on it xDhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwbbHlJ18iE
Youre the same guy TGM and i 2vX'd against speed kills and his 6 man right?
This is the same build from that 2vX too
Edit; Almost the same build, i dont use force anymore, and ive changed up a few enchants and poisions
I've only ever been zerged down by you, like once or twice, during a keep siege. And I've never died to speed kills because me and him don't attack each other. There was never any 2vX nor do I have a 6 man lol.Edited by Akinos on September 8, 2018 5:01PMPC NA | @AkinosPvP 1vX/Small Scaler, Raid Leader, Youtuber and Twitch.tv Streamer.MAGICKA MELEE IS LIFE!Magplar, MagDK, Magden, Magblade, Magsorc & Magcro PvP/Build videos & moretwitch.tv/akinospvp0 -
leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭This is a troll post right?
Just making sure, because this cannot be a real thread.PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...1 -
LeifErickson✭✭✭✭✭
✭leepalmer95 wrote: »This is a troll post right?
Just making sure, because this cannot be a real thread.
This one isn't, the others are. I know it isn't because I see this player running this build open world.0 -
Waffennacht✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭LeifErickson wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »This is a troll post right?
Just making sure, because this cannot be a real thread.
This one isn't, the others are. I know it isn't because I see this player running this build open world.
Hey, my post is not a troll thread. My stamina sorc is most definitely a stamina sorc0 -
ItsNebula✭✭✭✭✭PhoenixGrey wrote: »If the plan is to play with 16k health, you might as well build for 60k+ mag ? .
I am not quite sure how those shields hold up in outnumbered situations even when stacked given you might not be dodge rolling a lot.
The difference in shields from 50k Magicka to 60k is VERY small.. you get more damage with 3.4k spell damage i feel likeIs there a video of this build in action?
Don't think so. But i found the build video for his "so many people have asked me for this build i just don't know what to do with myself" build....which has more dislikes then likes on it xDhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwbbHlJ18iE
Youre the same guy TGM and i 2vX'd against speed kills and his 6 man right?
This is the same build from that 2vX too
Edit; Almost the same build, i dont use force anymore, and ive changed up a few enchants and poisions
I've only ever been zerged down by you, like once or twice, during a keep siege. And I've never died to speed kills because me and him don't attack each other. There was never any 2vX nor do I have a 6 man lol.
Howd you like that 4vX a few mins ago at sej?
Only ever been zerged down.. smh0
