What is the single most underused set in ESO?

zaria · September 2018

kylewwefan wrote: »

Willows Path was broken for the first 3 years of the game. By the time it got fixed, just became completely irrelevant.

I would vote for essence thief also. Many people tried it and couldn’t figure it out. Looks great on paper, but the essence to capture lands in some precarious spots. If you even know what it is you’re looking for.

Essene thief yes, tested it a lot since I had so much of it farming for SPC, far to clunky to be effective.

LadyLethalla · September 2018

Oblivion's Foe would be another.

Androconium · September 2018

geonsocal wrote: »

wait a minute - are we talking underused cuz the set is garbage, or, decent set, just no one uses...

I'm not sure that it matters.

Androconium · September 2018

El_Borracho wrote: »

People, people, please. Have we forgotten about Immortal Warrior?

2 items: Adds 4% Healing Taken
3 items: Adds 14-1206 Maximum Health
4 items: Adds 4% Healing Taken
5 items: When you die, you instead turn into a statue for 3 seconds. While a statue you are immune to all negative effects but can still be healed. This effect can occur once every 20 minutes.

Look at that 5 piece. A statue? And look at that 20 minute cool down. I can't think of a reason to use that set, especially when Eternal Warrior, a near-equally perplexing set, exists.

I didnt forget, just another I didnt know about.

Androconium · September 2018

LadyLethalla wrote: »

Oblivion's Foe would be another.

I built a Level 4 training set.

Androconium · September 2018

BuildMan wrote: »

I would argue it is the crafted set ashen grip.

What do you think is the most underused set in ESO?

I'd argue that this should have been a poll, listing all the sets.
Now you don't have answer to your question....

raj72616a · September 2018

Latios wrote: »

Eh, there are a bunch of trash sets in ESO. Trying to decide which is the most underused is difficult, because most likely a lot of the sets posted here are actually not used by anyone at all.
If I had to pick one, I'd say 5 piece Night's silence: Why waste a 5-piece bonus when you can just get that as a Vampire?

Night's Silence
(2 items) Adds 1096 Maximum Stamina
(3 items) Adds 129 Stamina Recovery
(4 items) Adds 833 Weapon Critical
(5 items) Ignore the Movement Speed penalty of Sneak.

i think i read somewhere that it had been a great set before the nerf
the effect used to work as -100% on movement speed penalty
stack similar effects together, you can move sneaking faster than you sprint

Saucy_Jack · September 2018

This is easy. The bucket and broom set.

Rowjoh · September 2018

So many sets, skills and passives are outdated and not worth consideration anymore.

Fortunately there is an abundance of decent sets, passives and skills to choose from so it doesn't really matter about the duds.

zaria · September 2018

Saucy_Jack wrote: »

This is easy. The bucket and broom set.

Bucket and broom is awesome.

We need it as an weapon and armor style. Same with the civilian clothing.

WeylandLabs · September 2018

70% of sets go unused that's why there is a Meta every1 has the same build types wish there was more diversity.

Knootewoot · September 2018

TQSkull wrote: »

Universe wrote: »

I consider the 5th bonus of this set trash:
Kagrenac's Hope:
Current:
(2 items) Adds 1096 Maximum Magicka
(3 items) Adds 129 Magicka Recovery
(4 items) Adds 1206 Maximum Health
(5 items) Decrease time to resurrect an ally by 25%. When you successfully resurrect an ally, you restore 1720 Magicka.
(5 items) Adds 222 Spell Damage

No one cares about the time to resurrect an ally.
ZOS can change Kagrenac's Hope 4th and 5th bonuses to the following and by doing so a new magicka sustain set with fine damage will be born:
New:
Kagrenac's Hope(craftable, 8 traits):
(4 items) Adds 833 Spell Critical
5 items: You are imbued with the hope of Kagrenac. When You deal damage, you have 10% chance to increase your magicka recovery by 350 for 10 seconds.
5 items: You are imbued with the hope of Kagrenac. When You deal damage, you have 10% chance to increase your spell damage by 400 for 10 seconds.

I sometimes use it for random vet DLC Dungeons. Very useful to rez someone while you are targeted by a channeling oneshot mechanic. The 25% do make a difference. Even Alcast recommends it for heal builds - this is far from underused.

I use it in PvP and combined with the support skill line rez bonus it is great. And how can it be trash if it also provided 222 spell damage.

Overall a good set imho

TheUrbanWizard · September 2018

Saucy_Jack wrote: »

This is easy. The bucket and broom set.

Nirnhoned or infused on the broom?

RaddlemanNumber7 · September 2018

Sithis. Always trashed it, right from the very first piece I got.

Not bucket and broom. If I had those they would get used.

Feric51 · September 2018

TheUrbanWizard wrote: »

Saucy_Jack wrote: »

This is easy. The bucket and broom set.

Nirnhoned or infused on the broom?

Weighted or GTFO... lol.

lagrue · September 2018

When I run my stam alts from 0-50 I have a bunch of precrafted sets just for them:
5 Hunding, 4 Nightmother - and 3 Ashen Grip. So, at the very least I use it. I find it better for my alts over all, since it was easy to slap together in jewlery (minimum investment into the system needed) - and I trade the rather crappy 5 piece bonus of NM for some health and weapon damage, I'll take it.

danno8 · September 2018

DeadlyRecluse wrote: »

Yeah, hard to argue that Kags is underused, at least if you consider the entire lifespan of the game.

When % rez speed bonuses were additive, high AR templars in Kags wre invaluable, especially with invis bats. Pop 3 dudes up in your bats.

It mostly just got nerfed by the reintroduction of forward camps. But this set ruled Cyrodiil when forward camps were gone for nearly a year.

Septimus_Magna · September 2018

For medium armor PVP builds Senche's Bite could be pretty good but I dont know anyone who runs it.

Senche's Bite
(2 items) Adds 129 Stamina Recovery
(3 items) Adds 833 Weapon Critical
(4 items) Adds 1096 Max Stamina
(5 items) When you use Roll Dodge, your Weapon Damage is increased by 420 and Weapon Critical by 657 for 5 seconds.

During combat you usually dodge every 5s, there's no cooldown on the effect and weapon dmg/crit buffs healing.

RebornV3x · September 2018

Somewhere wrote: »

Are we not going to talk about Ice Furnace?

(2 items) Adds 1096 Max Magicka

(3 items) Adds 833 Spell Critical

(4 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage

(5 items) When you deal direct damage with a Frost Damage ability, you have a 50% chance to deal an additional 1046 Flame Damage to all enemies within 8 meters around the initial target. This effect can occur once every 1 second.

Who is this set even made for?

If the just changed the 4 pc to spell damage instead of weapon damage this would probably be an amazing set

eso_lags · September 2018

Light speaker or any of the sets that drop in the same dungeon that it drops in.. Thats my guess. Although if you wanna get specific. It might be one of the horrible crafted sets. Seeing as low lvs that get those dungeon drops might actually use the sets til they get better stuff. But who would go out of there way to craft junk?

Caligamy_ESO · September 2018

Kinda surprised these haven't been mentioned..
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generalmyrick · September 2018

DeadlyRecluse wrote: »

There's a bunch that are hot garbage (spelunker, lol).

Ashen grip stands out to me as uniquely bad, though. It's particularly egregious because it would be an easy set to make "decent but not BiS" just by upping the proc number (and making the partial bonuses and the 5piece proc play in the same CP domain).

I've seen people use or try to use Death's Wind, Lightspeaker, Night's Silence and Trainee (which used to be super good, and is honestly still decent on magicka toons). Same with some other sets that frequently get dismissed (Willow's Path, Hatchling's Shell, Whitestrake's Retribution, Oblivion's Edge, etc).

I've never seen someone actually try to use Ashen Grip.

i like hatchling in non-intense pve. its really cool to get that extra shield.

Inarre · September 2018

Universe wrote: »

nemvar wrote: »

Universe wrote: »

I consider the 5th bonus of this set trash:
Kagrenac's Hope:
Current:
(2 items) Adds 1096 Maximum Magicka
(3 items) Adds 129 Magicka Recovery
(4 items) Adds 1206 Maximum Health
(5 items) Decrease time to resurrect an ally by 25%. When you successfully resurrect an ally, you restore 1720 Magicka.
(5 items) Adds 222 Spell Damage

No one cares about the time to resurrect an ally.
ZOS can change Kagrenac's Hope 4th and 5th bonuses to the following and by doing so a new magicka sustain set with fine damage will be born:
New:
Kagrenac's Hope(craftable, 8 traits):
(4 items) Adds 833 Spell Critical
5 items: You are imbued with the hope of Kagrenac. When You deal damage, you have 10% chance to increase your magicka recovery by 350 for 10 seconds.
5 items: You are imbued with the hope of Kagrenac. When You deal damage, you have 10% chance to increase your spell damage by 400 for 10 seconds.

What? Kagrenac has been a staple in organized PVP and progression groups. It certainly has its place and is definitly not underused.

Well maybe some use it, but I still consider it's 5th bonus useless since most of the time the 25% faster resurrection isn't used.
The 25% faster resurrection is not making a lot of difference.
One can slot better sets and achieve much higher stats.

Before it was nerfed this set was overpowered in pvp. Templar healers would backbar this and literally insta-res with the cyrodiil res passive.

Although it definitely still has its place (more for non templar) it isn't as strong as it once was

Inarre · September 2018

Sky_WK wrote: »

Universe wrote: »

nemvar wrote: »

Universe wrote: »

I consider the 5th bonus of this set trash:
Kagrenac's Hope:
Current:
(2 items) Adds 1096 Maximum Magicka
(3 items) Adds 129 Magicka Recovery
(4 items) Adds 1206 Maximum Health
(5 items) Decrease time to resurrect an ally by 25%. When you successfully resurrect an ally, you restore 1720 Magicka.
(5 items) Adds 222 Spell Damage

No one cares about the time to resurrect an ally.
ZOS can change Kagrenac's Hope 4th and 5th bonuses to the following and by doing so a new magicka sustain set with fine damage will be born:
New:
Kagrenac's Hope(craftable, 8 traits):
(4 items) Adds 833 Spell Critical
5 items: You are imbued with the hope of Kagrenac. When You deal damage, you have 10% chance to increase your magicka recovery by 350 for 10 seconds.
5 items: You are imbued with the hope of Kagrenac. When You deal damage, you have 10% chance to increase your spell damage by 400 for 10 seconds.

What? Kagrenac has been a staple in organized PVP and progression groups. It certainly has its place and is definitly not underused.

Well maybe some use it, but I still consider it's 5th bonus useless since most of the time the 25% faster resurrection isn't used.
The 25% faster resurrection is not making a lot of difference.
One can slot better sets and achieve much higher stats.

Umm, no. Kags is very very common in PVP. 25% res speed is very very strong when combined with templar and support passives. the stats are very good, and a bonus 5th piece spell damage to boot.

Only if you define very strong as less than three seconds. Because the bonuses multiply instead of add now (been that way since just after wrothgar I think) its comparatively worse on a templar than it is for any other class.

rfennell_ESO · September 2018

You got the undaunted sets, which have mostly never had a point in their hybrid design.

The Sithis set is totally pointless.

But... those are sets you can obtain easily by doing quests.

https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Thews+of+the+Harbringer+Set

(2 items) Adds 1206 Max Health

(3 items) Adds 1206 Max Health

(4 items) Adds 129 Spell Damage

(5 items) When you block a direct damage attack, you deal damage to your attacker equal to 4% of your current Health.

I've never once seen that one in use (it's a telvar stone set)

Asardes · September 2018

Lieblingsjunge wrote: »

Morkuldin ;_;

I actually saw someone using it in PvP during the event. Saw that sword pop out and said. WTF is that? Then I remembered the set existed. The 2-3-4p bonuses aren't bad though

witchdoctor · September 2018

Sloads?

I hear that's a crappy set.

Asardes · September 2018

As a general rule I deconstruct sets that give Major buffs easily obtainable from potions and/or skills:
Rattlecage, Dreugh King Slayer, Toothrow, Treasure Hunter - the latter is especially bad since as magicka you'll slot Inner Light for the extra magicka even if you use Spell Power potions.

Casul · September 2018

Androconium wrote: »

BuildMan wrote: »

I would argue it is the crafted set ashen grip.

What do you think is the most underused set in ESO?

I'd argue that this should have been a poll, listing all the sets.
Now you don't have answer to your question....

Do polls even have that many options?

Everstorm · September 2018

According to Merriam-Webster:

Definition of underused
: not fully used : having more potential than is currently being realized or utilized underused land

Come on people: underused =! unused.