Advancing Yokeda (Berserker) Bow - does it exist?

Valrien · September 2018

SilverWF wrote: »

Please, return back Advancing Yokeda bow to the game
Removing staves - ok, but bow? This is stamina weapon too, why even touch it?

Why even touch one set and left as is - others?
Please, return back Advancing Yokeda bow to the game

@ZOS_GinaBruno

At this point I would consider this spam

Stratloc · September 2018

Valrien wrote: »

disintegr8 wrote: »

Valrien wrote: »

disintegr8 wrote: »

Valrien wrote: »

I mean, its basically useless so if it doesnt drop then good riddance.

Get a Maelstrom Bow!

Thank you for your most helpful input into this conversation.

Next time don't bother responding.

Why wouldn't I bother responding? Why would you waste so much time farming for something that is objectively inferior to other options?

It's usefulness has nothing to do with the subject at hand. Whether it dropped or not was the subject.

Whether or not it drops is irrelivent if it's useless to begin with

Don't dictate what's useless to others.

Valrien · September 2018

Stratloc wrote: »

Valrien wrote: »

disintegr8 wrote: »

Valrien wrote: »

disintegr8 wrote: »

Valrien wrote: »

I mean, its basically useless so if it doesnt drop then good riddance.

Get a Maelstrom Bow!

Thank you for your most helpful input into this conversation.

Next time don't bother responding.

Why wouldn't I bother responding? Why would you waste so much time farming for something that is objectively inferior to other options?

It's usefulness has nothing to do with the subject at hand. Whether it dropped or not was the subject.

Whether or not it drops is irrelivent if it's useless to begin with

Don't dictate what's useless to others.

How exactly is it useful? Bow is definitely not a main bar weapon so bow-bow builds shouldn't even really exist in the first place, and people with backbar bows will run Master or Maelstrom.

Please, give me one example that isn't just "Bow/Bow build" because those are as useless as the Yokeda bow itself.

Stratloc · September 2018

Valrien wrote: »

Stratloc wrote: »

Valrien wrote: »

disintegr8 wrote: »

Valrien wrote: »

disintegr8 wrote: »

Valrien wrote: »

I mean, its basically useless so if it doesnt drop then good riddance.

Get a Maelstrom Bow!

Thank you for your most helpful input into this conversation.

Next time don't bother responding.

Why wouldn't I bother responding? Why would you waste so much time farming for something that is objectively inferior to other options?

It's usefulness has nothing to do with the subject at hand. Whether it dropped or not was the subject.

Whether or not it drops is irrelivent if it's useless to begin with

Don't dictate what's useless to others.

How exactly is it useful? Bow is definitely not a main bar weapon so bow-bow builds shouldn't even really exist in the first place, and people with backbar bows will run Master or Maelstrom.

Please, give me one example that isn't just "Bow/Bow build" because those are as useless as the Yokeda bow itself.

You don't know the reasoning behind OP's question. Don't dictate what's relevant on these forums. For all you know he could be collecting sets. Stuff is not always about "meta".

Baz · September 2018

Relequen (who procs on bow Light attacks) & weapons enchant procs Yokeda stacks.

Another question @Valrien ?

Having a Yokeda bow would make the thing easier for stamina char to complete the last dungeons (now psijic offer a decent spammable)

SilverWF · September 2018

@Valrien
Yeah, that's even fun how you protecting some pretty crazy and non-meta setups (like melee DD with axe in Sirora set, lul), but completely refusing another (AY bowman)
May I ask: why?
Also, may I ask: are you in the dev team? Seems, not, so why I would explain something to you?

I may be crazy or just collector - what a deal for this to you?

ZOS, please turn back AY bow to the game, thx.

@Baz
Damn you!

Valrien · September 2018

I'm against any useless weapons. I want them all to be effectively removed. Dual Wield has uses specifically in PvP for magicka builds, but for Trial sets like Srioria there should never be a melee weapon.

Most bows in the game are straight up invalidated by Maelstrom and Master.

When did I even defend useless weapons while specifically attacking Yokeda bow? I hate all of them and think farming would be much easier if they were all gone.

@Baz Why would anyone use a bow mainbar build though, when bow basically offers nothing to being a "main" weapon?

@SilverWF You don't have to explain anything to me...but you also don't have to spam threads with nonsense requests to bring back a weapon that no one needs. I'm not a developer, but neither are you...so you do not know what the game needs any more than I do. In other words, if I have to shut up then there's no reason why you shouldn't as well.

People who actually care about making a decent build are thankful that there are less things clogging up the AY loot table.

SilverWF · September 2018

@Valrien
I'm not spamming but trying to bring ZOS attention for this problem. Unpopular weapon? Ok, make their chance to drop lesser than for "meta" weapons. I don't see any problems here. But don't remove it completely - this is just stupid.
Also, don't teach others how they need to play if they didn't asked you about this. Sure, you think you are 'pro' and 'guru', but not everyone around thinks the same, faar from that.
And, at last, I didn't seen your "spam fighting' posts in the yesterdays "jump' threads. So try to sell this to someone else.

Valrien · September 2018

SilverWF wrote: »

@Valrien
I'm not spamming but trying to bring ZOS attention for this problem. Unpopular weapon? Ok, make their chance to drop lesser than for "meta" weapons. I don't see any problems here. But don't remove it completely - this is just stupid.
Also, don't teach others how they need to play if they didn't asked you about this. Sure, you think you are 'pro' and 'guru', but not everyone around thinks the same, faar from that.
And, at last, I didn't seen your "spam fighting' posts in the yesterdays "jump' threads. So try to sell this to someone else.

You mean the one discussion I made, plus the one "this is stupid" post? Yeah, real spammy.

At least I'm not tagging devs in every other post

Anyways! You still haven't given me a good reason to actually have this bow so I think our little argument is resolved. Have a nice day, and have fun running vMA/vDSA

SilverWF · September 2018

Farewell
Thx for upping this thread.

ZOS, please turn back AY bow to the game, thx.

AlienatedGoat · September 2018

You're better off going for the vMA bow anyway, even if AY bows are removed from the game. vMA bow seems to drop pretty frequently.

geonsocal · September 2018

wouldn't it be super awesome if the golden sold vma, vdsa, and asylum weapons...

of course it would

Oakmontowls_ESO · September 2018

geonsocal wrote: »

wouldn't it be super awesome if the golden sold vma, vdsa, and asylum weapons...

of course it would

Maybe with Maelstrom Arena: Perfect Run, Dragon Star Arena Conqueror, and Asylum Sanatorium Vanquisher achievements as requirements

geonsocal · September 2018

Oakmontowls_ESO wrote: »

geonsocal wrote: »

wouldn't it be super awesome if the golden sold vma, vdsa, and asylum weapons...

of course it would

Maybe with Maelstrom Arena: Perfect Run, Dragon Star Arena Conqueror, and Asylum Sanatorium Vanquisher achievements as requirements

better yet - maybe we could include those weapons as part of the daily login rewards...

Baz · September 2018

A good player with double bow build will still pull higher dps than a random player with DW/bow build.

Weapon enchant, and Relequen does melee damages, so it will proc Yokeda. Simple as that.
The last dungeons & "trials" are not melee friendly. Having a Yokeda bow would offer the possibility to stamina to play ranged with the best gear possible. Sure you can go with Leviathan instead of Yokeda, but Yokeda is better. So why couldn't we use this ? Why a non conventional setup start with disadvantages ?

I'm part of a progressing trial guild, where non conventional builds are banned from our raid days. But I would love to play sometimes my stamblade (which is my 1st character) in the latest dungeons, get some achievements without being impeded in melee setup OR without the best gear on ranged setup.
And now ZoS offer us a decent spammable which is not a channel like snipe, bow/bow builds become reliable.

idk · September 2018

Baz wrote: »

A good player with double bow build will still pull higher dps than a random player with DW/bow build.

Weapon enchant, and Relequen does melee damages, so it will proc Yokeda. Simple as that.
The last dungeons & "trials" are not melee friendly. Having a Yokeda bow would offer the possibility to stamina to play ranged with the best gear possible. Sure you can go with Leviathan instead of Yokeda, but Yokeda is better. So why couldn't we use this ? Why a non conventional setup start with disadvantages ?

I'm part of a progressing trial guild, where non conventional builds are banned from our raid days. But I would love to play sometimes my stamblade (which is my 1st character) in the latest dungeons, get some achievements without being impeded in melee setup OR without the best gear on ranged setup.
And now ZoS offer us a decent spammable which is not a channel like snipe, bow/bow builds become reliable.

Any decent raid leader does not care about ones build as long as they perform to his/her expectations. Of course someone might need to prove they can actually pull it off outside of progression nights since that is not exactly the night for experimentation.

Also, snipe has an activation time, not a channel.

code65536 · September 2018

erlewine wrote: »

Cavedog wrote: »

Advancing Yokeda bows were removed from the game quite a while ago.

Makes sense. Same time they removed Destruction Mastery resto staves and the like from dropping.

I got Destruction Mastery mauls from a recent vDSA weekly.

Milchbart · September 2018

Although I have several MSA and Master bows i would like to have that Yokeda bow.
Why can't i make melee damage with a bow if I'm really close to the enemy?
It should proc on distance to the enemy and not on weapon type.

erlewine · September 2018

code65536 wrote: »

erlewine wrote: »

Cavedog wrote: »

Advancing Yokeda bows were removed from the game quite a while ago.

Makes sense. Same time they removed Destruction Mastery resto staves and the like from dropping.

I got Destruction Mastery mauls from a recent vDSA weekly.

Interesting, maybe they can still come from weekly reward. Definitely seems like the sort of thing they'd overlook ~.~

Baz · September 2018

idk wrote: »

Baz wrote: »

A good player with double bow build will still pull higher dps than a random player with DW/bow build.

Weapon enchant, and Relequen does melee damages, so it will proc Yokeda. Simple as that.
The last dungeons & "trials" are not melee friendly. Having a Yokeda bow would offer the possibility to stamina to play ranged with the best gear possible. Sure you can go with Leviathan instead of Yokeda, but Yokeda is better. So why couldn't we use this ? Why a non conventional setup start with disadvantages ?

I'm part of a progressing trial guild, where non conventional builds are banned from our raid days. But I would love to play sometimes my stamblade (which is my 1st character) in the latest dungeons, get some achievements without being impeded in melee setup OR without the best gear on ranged setup.
And now ZoS offer us a decent spammable which is not a channel like snipe, bow/bow builds become reliable.

Any decent raid leader does not care about ones build as long as they perform to his/her expectations. Of course someone might need to prove they can actually pull it off outside of progression nights since that is not exactly the night for experimentation.

Also, snipe has an activation time, not a channel.

Well we are near breaking 20min vMoL HM, so I think my team & RL are decent enough to know what's good/bad for us to hit our goal

channel/activation time/cast time/canalized/whatever call it as you want it's the same sh*t

Milchbart wrote: »

Although I have several MSA and Master bows i would like to have that Yokeda bow.
Why can't i make melee damage with a bow if I'm really close to the enemy?
It should proc on distance to the enemy and not on weapon type.

By game design, melee damages are done with melee weapons or skill that have 5m range. But there is thing that does melee damage that can be done by range (weapon enchant, Relequen, Burning Light, and I probably miss a lot more)

Bosco916 · February 2019

To everyone saying it's a "useless weapon," yes, in regards to procing AY with light attacks or bow abilities--AY bow is useless.
However, other abilities could proc AY while an AY bow is equipped, ie. Venomous Claw. Now, having an AY bow with similar abilities such as the aforementioned slotted, it would be very helpful in keeping up the AY buff duration while swapped away from dual wield AY bar--RIGHT?

Bigevilpeter · February 2019

AY procs on melee attacks, using a bow will literally do nothing, might as well slot a random bow

zaria · February 2019

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

AY procs on melee attacks, using a bow will literally do nothing, might as well slot a random bow

Except the 4) passive.

Shall we now discuss all the staffs who drops in pure stamina sets? or the other way around, no idea how many BSW and SPC bows I have gotten

Bosco916 · February 2019

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

AY procs on melee attacks, using a bow will literally do nothing, might as well slot a random bow

Did you see what I wrote? Venomous Claw is a melee attack and can be slotted on an AY bow bar...thus making an AY bow not useless in having to worry about bar swapping just to Endless Hail/Acid Sprat/Poison Inject etc. and swapping back to AY daggers asap before losing AY buff. Seamless.