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Argonian race taking over ESO
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IZZEFlameLash✭✭✭✭✭
✭Goodness gracious, why do people keep complaining about Argonians actually being useful after what... 2 years or so of near uselessness? Argonians are for tanking and healing. That is all there's to it. Argonians don't make or break game but your skill as player do. Argonians lack quite a bit in damage even as a magicka spec. I don't see what's the problem here. They still all die to same for me. By the way, Imperials and Nords still are there for tanking and are very effective still. DD Templars are Altmers, Bretons can be used still for healing. These races I still see.Imperials, the one and true masters of all mortal races of Tamriel3 -
Trinity_Is_My_Name✭✭✭✭✭
✭It's like when you buy a new car and then all of a sudden you see everyone else is driving that same model. LOL. Same with Argonians or Bosmer or whatever. I have 21 characters and have ONE Argonian. I sure don't consider it the Master Race.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭IZZEFlameLash wrote: »Goodness gracious, why do people keep complaining about Argonians actually being useful after what... 2 years or so of near uselessness? Argonians are for tanking and healing. That is all there's to it. Argonians don't make or break game but your skill as player do. Argonians lack quite a bit in damage even as a magicka spec. I don't see what's the problem here. They still all die to same for me. By the way, Imperials and Nords still are there for tanking and are very effective still. DD Templars are Altmers, Bretons can be used still for healing. These races I still see.
We need the argonians to be weak so that they do not have a uprising against their dunmer masters0 -
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✭✭Guys stop! Kill the thread! Never talk about this again! What if ZOS actually notices!?0 -
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Racial in ESO is some of the most messed up game mechanics in any competitive game.The prob with racial passives in this game is that very few are applicable to all classes/roles. Argonian is the exception - more hp helps everyone. More healing recieved and done helps everyone. more resources from potions helps everyone.
Meanwhile some races passives are only useful for a single niche role.
IMHO racial passives need an overhaul; dont' nerf anyone but add something to all racial passives that anyone of any role at least gets SOME benefit from.
They dates back to then we had soft caps and they did not matter much, originally we had racial ultimates, but it was dropped because of protests, I think they would be fun if weaker than meta ultimates so mostly for fun or very situational.
Soft caps went away while the racial stayed, now add the Morrowind mega nerf.
However difference is not significant as I understand its 10% for magic DD on Altmer over races with no magic bonuses. For the rest is less, far less on healer and tanks and an Altmer stamwarden will still do more dps than an magic warden or at least did half a year ago. player skill is way more important.
Its mostly in the players head, they do 10k dps not 40 because of wrong race so no reason to train an rotation or even use set gear just go DD with ice staff and sword and board.
And you get no warning, racial description is pretty much the same as in Skyrim.
i would changed like it was in Morrowind and Oblivion, an starting bonus on skills and faster skill leveling.
Keep some flavor like Argonians can swim faster and Khajiit is better at pickpocket.Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.0 -
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✭Ya, the argonian is way too OP in PvP. They are also great at PvE, i see more and more Argonians eveytime i log in now. Now days all the other races are either builds for trials and dungeons, or for role playing. ZOS, please address this issue with argonians, and rebalance the races0 -
Jinchuu✭✭✭✭You must be htting the skooma too hard if you think some filthy muckmonsters are the master raceUnless you are willing to be a mindless sycophant and/or coddle others due to their insecurities prepare to be harrased by the Orwellian enforcers on these forums. You should also try to refrain from using any words more complex than those used by a small child due to the fact that said enforcers have made it clear that their vocabulary pool is aenemic.1
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Darkhorse1975✭✭✭✭✭Embrace the lizard inside you...
Edited by Darkhorse1975 on August 29, 2018 5:44AMMaster Craftsman!4 -
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Someone say Nerf!?No nerfs, just buff other races - I play a Bosmer, give me some love!Edited by ScardyFox on August 29, 2018 6:20AM4 -
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✭✭✭✭Its pretty annoying how zos promote something by making it unbalanced so people just jump on new op stuff.0 -
Beardimus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The thing is Argonians were always a joke/meme. But their passive changes has made them very popular, they also will be on their second DLC with MirkmireXbox One | EU | EP
Beardimus : VR16 Dunmer MagSorc [RIP MagDW 2015-2018]
Emperor of Sotha Sil 02-2018 & Sheogorath 05-2019
1st Emperor of RavenwatchAlts - - for the Lolz
Archimus : Bosmer Thief / Archer / Werewolf
Orcimus : Fat drunk Orc battlefield 1st aider
Scalimus - Argonian Sorc Healer / Pet master
Fighting small scale with : The SAXON Guild
Fighting with [PvP] : The Undaunted Wolves
Trading Guilds : TradersOfNirn | FourSquareTraders
Xbox One | NA | EP
Bëardimus : L43 Dunmer Magsorc / BG
Heals-With-Pets : VR16 Argonian Sorc PvP / BG Healer
Nordimus : VR16 Stamsorc
Beardimus le 13iem : L30 Dunmer Magsorc Icereach0 -
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Grand Master Crafter, Beta baby who grew with the game. PC/NA. @Sheezabeast if you have crafting needs!6 -
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PC EU ADMaster Crafter - Anything you need!!High Elf Magicka Templar Healer/DPS/TankTrials / Dungeons / PVP / Everything9 -
RavenSworn✭✭✭✭✭I just want a better racial for my bosmer.... Maybe better damage with a pet out. That'll help tremendously. Don't really care much about argonian to be honest.Ingame: RavenSworn, Pc / NA.
Of Wolf and Raven
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EDS604✭✭✭racial passives should be deleted and applied as a secondary function of mundus stones OR let people do a quest to attune to their new passive skillset, similar to vampire/werewolf questline. Race should only be a cosmetic feature.Edited by EDS604 on August 29, 2018 7:32AMPC EU, Guildleader of "Death By Gargoyle".1 -
eco_TR✭✭✭Better join us, if you want to be a good drinker.In light, there is darkness.
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Kram8ion✭✭✭✭✭
✭Sorry there’s literally nothing you could do to the Argonian racial passive that would make me switch to an ugly lizard with a fat tail and a monotone voice.
I tried to make an Argonian with a look like the kinds of reptiles I like irl and I couldn’t do it. Making one I like the looks of escapes me.
Nah. Pass.
This is Fashion Scrolls Online, I’m looking toward end game Vanity boss
Haha your absolutely right I think that's why dying in g cyrodil often hasn't bothered me because I do it fabulously darling
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lagrue✭✭✭✭✭
✭I don't find them taking over by a longshot, I see quite vast diversity on PS4 NA, but elves and humans reign supreme over beast races still in terms of population.
That said I have 2 Argonians myself, Templar and Warden, both healers - but that's because Argonian is naturally built to be healer."You must defeat me every time. I need defeat you only once"0 -
killimandrosb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Argonian is the favourite pick for a lot of the best pvp'ers atm, due to their excellent resource management and synergy with potions and healing. All passives fit perfect for a pvp toon roaming around in smallscale or 1vx. Nord is as far as I know the dedicated worst pvp race to pick0
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✭✭✭✭✭IZZEFlameLash wrote: »Goodness gracious, why do people keep complaining about Argonians actually being useful after what... 2 years or so of near uselessness? Argonians are for tanking and healing. That is all there's to it. Argonians don't make or break game but your skill as player do. Argonians lack quite a bit in damage even as a magicka spec. I don't see what's the problem here. They still all die to same for me. By the way, Imperials and Nords still are there for tanking and are very effective still. DD Templars are Altmers, Bretons can be used still for healing. These races I still see.
Revenge is not the best motivation for balancing the game.
And no, theyre also pretty damn strong for every pvp build. Yes, even tanky stamina builds that are meta these days.
You can argue that altmer is also kinda op, but using altmer for stam build would gimp you. Argonian, though? Gimme those resources!
There is currently no other race that has equally powerful passives.Edited by LadyNalcarya on August 29, 2018 3:14PMDro-m'Athra Destroyer | Divayth Fyr's Coadjutor | Voice of Reason
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AhPook_Is_Here✭✭✭✭✭
✭All the hottest guys play Argonians.
Edited by AhPook_Is_Here on August 29, 2018 2:07PM“Whatever.”
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albesca✭✭✭✭✭HighKinlady wrote: »Inhuman003 wrote: »Long live the Lizards of Angonia hail the Lizard King
I was expecting a Jim morrison / argonian crossover for the picture
This is the best I could come up with at work.PC EU
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yiasemi✭✭✭✭AhPook_Is_Here wrote: »All the hottest guys play Argonians.
I, I will be king
And you, you will be queen
Though nothing will drive those scummy PVEr's away
We can beat them, just for one day
We can be Heroes, just for one day
And you, you could be mean
And I, I'll drink potions all the time
'Cause we're lizards, and that is a fact
Yes we're lizards, and that is that
Though nothing, will keep us together
We could steal time, just for one day
We can be Heroes, 'til ZOS takes it away
What'd you say? for ever and a day
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