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Nerfing Sorc skill

Artemiisia
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How the hell can you justify nerfing every sorc skill to the ground, making them useless to use, another nerf to rune prison.....

and while we still have DKs Fossilizes that not only stuns, but immobilize you, so first you have to use stamina to break free, and another skill like roll dodge, to get out of it, no other cc skill ingame, requires two things to get out of

and nightblades fear, is just broken af.....

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Edited by ZOS_JesC on August 22, 2018 2:43PM
  • Enslaved
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    DK fossilize has range that require DK to stand on its target to cast it. Sorc stun has range slightly greater than distance between Earth and Jupiter. Also, this is actually a buff since if target does not break free in 2 sec it will also suffer damage from this skill.
  • Artemiisia
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    its easy for a dk to get close to its target, it shouldnt require two things to get out of it.

    Now rune cage is 2sec only, you break free, and you can run away
    Fossilze, you break free, but you still fked, since you cant move away before roll dodge, and by then you already been hit with 5-8 skills
  • Lamiai
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    Do you play DK at all?
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  • Enslaved
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    U have been hit? Wow. Use shieldstacking. Also, ur streak breaks roots.
    Edited by Enslaved on August 20, 2018 11:40AM
  • Artemiisia
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    Enslaved wrote: »
    U have been hit? Wow. Use shieldstacking. Also, ur streak breaks roots.

    thats still two skills I need to use break freee, and streak, to get out of fossilizes

    if they nerf sorcs only viable cc ingame, they should give fossilizes the same treatment

  • e1team
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    Is it even possible to crunch out any significant damage in 2 secs?
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    Until I get to a sorc to cast fossilize I am hit by 15 skills, stunned twice and most likely meteored once. Ofc, I am talking about sorcs that actually know what they are doing.
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    Enslaved wrote: »
    U have been hit? Wow. Use shieldstacking. Also, ur streak breaks roots.

    Wrong. Streak does not remove the roots. You can streak away with roots on you, but its still there. You can streak multiple times till root is gone or dodgeroll after first streak.

    I do mostly streak+dodgeroll, because of this.
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  • Artemiisia
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    Enslaved wrote: »
    Until I get to a sorc to cast fossilize I am hit by 15 skills, stunned twice and most likely meteored once. Ofc, I am talking about sorcs that actually know what they are doing.

    if you use fossilize on range dk, then thats where your problem is, 2hander or 1h/board dks have no problem gettin to their target and use fossilizes
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    Artemiisia wrote: »
    Enslaved wrote: »
    Until I get to a sorc to cast fossilize I am hit by 15 skills, stunned twice and most likely meteored once. Ofc, I am talking about sorcs that actually know what they are doing.

    if you use fossilize on range dk, then thats where your problem is, 2hander or 1h/board dks have no problem gettin to their target and use fossilizes

    If you play sorc standing in one spot or even worse jumping in one spot, since you saw the cool aid kids do that on the yt, then you deserve to be stunned, rooted, killed and if person is underaged it will tbag u 2.
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    Enslaved wrote: »
    Artemiisia wrote: »
    Enslaved wrote: »
    Until I get to a sorc to cast fossilize I am hit by 15 skills, stunned twice and most likely meteored once. Ofc, I am talking about sorcs that actually know what they are doing.

    if you use fossilize on range dk, then thats where your problem is, 2hander or 1h/board dks have no problem gettin to their target and use fossilizes

    If you play sorc standing in one spot or even worse jumping in one spot, since you saw the cool aid kids do that on the yt, then you deserve to be stunned, rooted, killed and if person is underaged it will tbag u 2.

    well same could be said about you, if you dumb enough to be caught by the rune cage, you deserve to be locked into it for 3.5 sec, since now you can dodge it
  • Enslaved
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    Artemiisia wrote: »
    Enslaved wrote: »
    Artemiisia wrote: »
    Enslaved wrote: »
    Until I get to a sorc to cast fossilize I am hit by 15 skills, stunned twice and most likely meteored once. Ofc, I am talking about sorcs that actually know what they are doing.

    if you use fossilize on range dk, then thats where your problem is, 2hander or 1h/board dks have no problem gettin to their target and use fossilizes

    If you play sorc standing in one spot or even worse jumping in one spot, since you saw the cool aid kids do that on the yt, then you deserve to be stunned, rooted, killed and if person is underaged it will tbag u 2.

    well same could be said about you, if you dumb enough to be caught by the rune cage, you deserve to be locked into it for 2.0 sec, since now you can dodge it

    FTFY :trollface:
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    Drunk?
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    repsec for 1 g - no
    Devour Skill point returned - no

    Nightblades nerfed - no
    mSorc nerfed - yes
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  • Artemiisia
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    Enslaved wrote: »
    Artemiisia wrote: »
    Enslaved wrote: »
    Artemiisia wrote: »
    Enslaved wrote: »
    Until I get to a sorc to cast fossilize I am hit by 15 skills, stunned twice and most likely meteored once. Ofc, I am talking about sorcs that actually know what they are doing.

    if you use fossilize on range dk, then thats where your problem is, 2hander or 1h/board dks have no problem gettin to their target and use fossilizes

    If you play sorc standing in one spot or even worse jumping in one spot, since you saw the cool aid kids do that on the yt, then you deserve to be stunned, rooted, killed and if person is underaged it will tbag u 2.

    well same could be said about you, if you dumb enough to be caught by the rune cage, you deserve to be locked into it for 2.0 sec, since now you can dodge it

    FTFY :trollface:

    before this new nerf :)
  • Feanor
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    Enslaved wrote: »
    DK fossilize has range that require DK to stand on its target to cast it. Sorc stun has range slightly greater than distance between Earth and Jupiter. Also, this is actually a buff since if target does not break free in 2 sec it will also suffer damage from this skill.

    The patch notes say "Rune Prison", and that's the base skill, which has no damage at all. So no, it's not a buff.
    Main characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 50 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:
    Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard Stamplar
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  • Kikke
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    Artemiisia wrote: »
    Enslaved wrote: »
    U have been hit? Wow. Use shieldstacking. Also, ur streak breaks roots.

    thats still two skills I need to use break freee, and streak, to get out of fossilizes

    if they nerf sorcs only viable cc ingame, they should give fossilizes the same treatment

    I am a sorc main, and could you stop this? it's hurting my feelins. I have Mines, Encase, rune cage, streak, Attro stun and pet stun. No. Rune Cage was not and is not our only CC. L2P.

    And the Rune Cage "nerf" was a buff... as no idiot would ever sit in rune cage for 3,5sec. But reducing time before it breaks (and does dmg) too 2sec, you might actually have someone sitting it out

    but please, continue crying. Them tears are sweet xD
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  • SodanTok
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    Its a buff lol.
  • Feanor
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    SodanTok wrote: »
    Its a buff lol.

    It's not. See my post above. Love how everyone is jumping to conclusions without even reading the patch notes properly.
    Main characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 50 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:
    Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard Stamplar
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  • Kikke
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    Enslaved wrote: »
    Artemiisia wrote: »
    Enslaved wrote: »
    Until I get to a sorc to cast fossilize I am hit by 15 skills, stunned twice and most likely meteored once. Ofc, I am talking about sorcs that actually know what they are doing.

    if you use fossilize on range dk, then thats where your problem is, 2hander or 1h/board dks have no problem gettin to their target and use fossilizes

    If you play sorc standing in one spot or even worse jumping in one spot, since you saw the cool aid kids do that on the yt, then you deserve to be stunned, rooted, killed and if person is underaged it will tbag u 2.

    And you need too learn to play. use your chains, get close too sorc, fossilize and have fun, repeat untill sorc is out of stam.

    NO DK should EVER complain about Sorcs! a DK is a Rock towards Sorcs Scissors.
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  • Zodiac_
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    Artemiisia wrote: »
    How the hell can you justify nerfing every sorc skill to the ground,

    Best joke i have read for quite some time :smiley:

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    kikkehs wrote: »
    Enslaved wrote: »
    Artemiisia wrote: »
    Enslaved wrote: »
    Until I get to a sorc to cast fossilize I am hit by 15 skills, stunned twice and most likely meteored once. Ofc, I am talking about sorcs that actually know what they are doing.

    if you use fossilize on range dk, then thats where your problem is, 2hander or 1h/board dks have no problem gettin to their target and use fossilizes

    If you play sorc standing in one spot or even worse jumping in one spot, since you saw the cool aid kids do that on the yt, then you deserve to be stunned, rooted, killed and if person is underaged it will tbag u 2.

    And you need too learn to play. use your chains, get close too sorc, fossilize and have fun, repeat untill sorc is out of stam.

    NO DK should EVER complain about Sorcs! a DK is a Rock towards Sorcs Scissors.

    I dont complain, I also dont cry like (insert generic insult with regional localization) when zos buff my fav class.
  • SodanTok
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    Feanor wrote: »
    SodanTok wrote: »
    Its a buff lol.

    It's not. See my post above. Love how everyone is jumping to conclusions without even reading the patch notes properly.

    Well either it applies to morphs too and its a buff or not and its literally nothing
  • Feanor
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    SodanTok wrote: »
    Feanor wrote: »
    SodanTok wrote: »
    Its a buff lol.

    It's not. See my post above. Love how everyone is jumping to conclusions without even reading the patch notes properly.

    Well either it applies to morphs too and its a buff or not and its literally nothing

    Why would it apply to the morphs? And no, it wouldn't be a buff - you either CC break within 1 second or you don't, in which case the damage Rune Cage does is your least problem.
    Main characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 50 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:
    Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard Stamplar
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  • SodanTok
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    Feanor wrote: »
    SodanTok wrote: »
    Feanor wrote: »
    SodanTok wrote: »
    Its a buff lol.

    It's not. See my post above. Love how everyone is jumping to conclusions without even reading the patch notes properly.

    Well either it applies to morphs too and its a buff or not and its literally nothing

    Why would it apply to the morphs? And no, it wouldn't be a buff - you either CC break within 1 second or you don't, in which case the damage Rune Cage does is your least problem.

    I would disagree on that other thing but if it doesnt change it its pointless thing to discuss.

    As for why, it would be for consistency but yes I see now they usually put "and morphs' when balancing base ability with intent to change all. Easy thing to miss, but you are right ;)
  • Wifeaggro13
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    Artemiisia wrote: »
    How the hell can you justify nerfing every sorc skill to the ground, making them useless to use, another nerf to rune prison.....

    and while we still have DKs Fossilizes that not only stuns, but immobilize you, so first you have to use stamina to break free, and another skill like roll dodge, to get out of it, no other cc skill ingame, requires two things to get out of

    and nightblades fear, is just broken af.....

    this game should have never tried to run its pve pvp system like this. PVP should have always been a separate system at the very least throttled back. ESO is a homogenized mess in pve relying solely on DPS as its core. its now ruined both aspects of the game
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    Artemiisia wrote: »
    How the hell can you justify nerfing every sorc skill to the ground, making them useless to use, another nerf to rune prison.....

    and while we still have DKs Fossilizes that not only stuns, but immobilize you, so first you have to use stamina to break free, and another skill like roll dodge, to get out of it, no other cc skill ingame, requires two things to get out of

    and nightblades fear, is just broken af.....

    Reading the 2 threads you have opened I wonder if you were drunk too
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  • Derbforgaill
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    Artemiisia wrote: »

    and nightblades fear, is just broken af.....

    They've been nerfing nb's fear in recent patches. They've made reduction in the number of shadows, decreased duration of snare...

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    LAUGHS IN TEMPLAR

    Welcome to our world of no class CC [no, the debuff that can be cc broken is not cc....as it hinders 0 mobility]
  • DanteYoda
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    Its not a nerf if you are still better than a warden...
  • Feanor
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    Can we please stop saying nerfs are ok because some classes have it worse? Do you want every class to play like misery?
    Main characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 50 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:
    Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard Stamplar
    All chars 50 @ CP 1900+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.
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