What is triggering adds spawn ? Boss health % ? Maybe we were DPSing too fast

shiningforce wrote: »

There seems to be no rhyme or reason to when they get Enraged.

There is a lot of bugs during this fight.

For example the Enraged werewolves will hit you from afar nowhere near you and you take serious damage. The tank we had took 127k while blocking against a werewolf. Werewolves do spawn too quick at times and the mechanics overlap which causes insta death for a lot of groups.

Enraged werewolves will always one shot the tank, it's intended. Kill them before they enrage to avoid one shot.

Astrid_V wrote: »

shiningforce wrote: »

There seems to be no rhyme or reason to when they get Enraged.

There is a lot of bugs during this fight.

For example the Enraged werewolves will hit you from afar nowhere near you and you take serious damage. The tank we had took 127k while blocking against a werewolf. Werewolves do spawn too quick at times and the mechanics overlap which causes insta death for a lot of groups.

Enraged werewolves will always one shot the tank, it's intended. Kill them before they enrage to avoid one shot.

@shiningforce

Yesterday I tanked and guided 2 random group finder pugs who had never done the fight before successfully through this without problems. Boss killed within 3 tries so I don't think there are bugs, more likely tactics problem. I did see that when our dps pushed the boss too fast I got indeed double spawns on the stairs but even that wasn't a problem if you insta-chainpull all spawning humans to the same center location in front of boss but as close to entrance as possible. The aoe from your dps can take care of them easily when they are still human.

a proper dedicated tank with lets say 30k resistance and 40K health pool can hold and tank the big Hulk werewolves after they turned just fine 1 at a time along with all the other non-turned adds as long as the dps focuses on priority killing them which they should. If dps is good their second prio kills on the non-turned humans will finish them before they turn. An ideal party with high dps and skill never has any human turn into a werewolf at all. They watch the animation of a human that starts to turn and focus fire him down before the turning animation completes.

Leave the whole area from entrance until the 2 starting human adds for the tank and the tank only so he can pull humans from the stairs to him and backstep with all adds and hulking werewolves in case they succesfully turn. This way he can make sure all mobs always face the entrance the whole time and the hulking werewolves' erratice twisting and turning behaviour with the huge cone area won't 1 shot dps or healer. Dps and healer safely near boss the whole fight.

PouletRico wrote: »

@shiningforce Yeah I not sure if it's bugs, but some mechanics are overlapping, resulting in a mess sometimes.

@profundidob16_ESO Thank for the advice ! I haven't tried that way, but it's sounds doable to me (I'm tank btw). Will give it a try asap.
My main issue was not being able to tank 2 enraged werewolf at the same time, giving that 4 adds are spawning, 2 of them will transform, sometime pretty quickly, and my DPS wasn't able to kill them fast enough.

yw. You're not supposed to have 2 big ones up at any time at all. Only the best of tank combined with the best of healer can hold 2 at once. Not very realistic and definately not indended (there should be an achievement for it in fact !!). If you have 2 big werewolves up It means indeed that your dps is not doing their job properly, not respecting kill priority. The reason you get 4 adds is because at least 1 dps is staying on the boss instead of switching to the newly spawned adds on the stairs. Tell them to watch the stairs to avoid that and as tank pull them in the very second they spawn. Be in the correct tank spot expecting them. The boss' voice dialogue gives you an explicit audio warning: "my siblings blablaba..." right before he summons them so you get ready to pull

The dps kill priority is at any given time.

1. purple bubble
2. humans starting to turn before they turn into a big werewolf
3. big werewolf (before you get bubbled and 1 shot)
4. other humans
5. boss

In a good group number 2 doesn't exist and in an awesome group 2 and 3 don't exist.

I had the same problem whenever I ran the dungeon. For one fight I stopped using puncture on the boss because it would only result in bringing the adds near him, thus enraging them. When I didn't puncture him that fight there were never double adds. Not sure if that's the issue or if it has to do with taunting but there was a clear difference when I didn't taunt.

tank takes 2 adds away from the boss, dds burn him fast, ez go. when 3-4 spawn boss will be 30%, tank grabs new adds fast, kite all the time left dds to execute the boss.. ezgo