NOW that its over ....

Skinzz · August 2018

I killed 8 players in a resource tower during the double ap event with some of them being pretty high ranks. It is doable if you know what you're doing and use LOS

Grimhallow · August 2018

mattaeus01b16_ESO wrote: »

Grimick wrote: »

Jeremy wrote: »

If you want @mattaeus01b16_ESO (assuming you are on PC/NA), I would be happy to meet up with you in game and spam a few duels with you. We could investigate possible weaknesses and work on solutions for you PvP woes. I'm always happy to help! I'm actually hosing a clinic in my guild tonight at 6:00 PST, and you're welcome to come!

Thanks for the offer. But for now, Im done with PvP

No worries! The door is always open for people who truly want to improve!

eso_lags · August 2018

mattaeus01b16_ESO wrote: »

PvP, lets discus this ESO travesty.
What the hell did I just witness? Well, it was one of the WORST experiences Iv had in ESO, since the beta. Between the bitching and whining of other people about a skill or 2 that, in there opinion, is a no talent hack for people that dont know how to play. To the venomous PVPers that call you out in tells, calling you everything under the moon (just because they died in a fair battle), to the gankers that just can not be killed.
Heres a scenario for you. A group of 6 PvP peeps, venture into IC. Join another group on 6 on taking a flag, when 2 apposing faction players show up... 2... just 2. Now, for the most part, we are all golded out, have our skills in check, and have a decent idea how to play the game. In the other group of 6, had a Former Emperor. So we stood a decent chance of wining, right? &^%#$& NO! Not even close.
Not only did we not drop one... But we all, at one time or another, re spawned and joined the fight again. All of our team ran draining poisons of one kind or another, I ran a frost staff myself and controls. These 2 farmed us for the next hour, untill we just left. NOT once, did they run out of resources, not once did they go below 50%, that we saw. NOT one control landed except 1 Rune Cage, for half a second. And most of the time, they had damage shields going, and never stopped running.
*&^%$ing Disgusting how the PvP community *** on someone for using a skill they dont like, where in situations like above, they used no Rune Cage, No SLOADS, No Caluurion's Legacy, and walked all over the hole zone.
Completely unbalanced.... and venomess
And this experience has caused me to not want to PvP ever again in ESO.

I have to admit this made me smile

ItsNebula · August 2018

mattaeus01b16_ESO wrote: »

PvP, lets discus this ESO travesty.
What the hell did I just witness? Well, it was one of the WORST experiences Iv had in ESO, since the beta. Between the bitching and whining of other people about a skill or 2 that, in there opinion, is a no talent hack for people that dont know how to play. To the venomous PVPers that call you out in tells, calling you everything under the moon (just because they died in a fair battle), to the gankers that just can not be killed.
Heres a scenario for you. A group of 6 PvP peeps, venture into IC. Join another group on 6 on taking a flag, when 2 apposing faction players show up... 2... just 2. Now, for the most part, we are all golded out, have our skills in check, and have a decent idea how to play the game. In the other group of 6, had a Former Emperor. So we stood a decent chance of wining, right? &^%#$& NO! Not even close.
Not only did we not drop one... But we all, at one time or another, re spawned and joined the fight again. All of our team ran draining poisons of one kind or another, I ran a frost staff myself and controls. These 2 farmed us for the next hour, untill we just left. NOT once, did they run out of resources, not once did they go below 50%, that we saw. NOT one control landed except 1 Rune Cage, for half a second. And most of the time, they had damage shields going, and never stopped running.
*&^%$ing Disgusting how the PvP community *** on someone for using a skill they dont like, where in situations like above, they used no Rune Cage, No SLOADS, No Caluurion's Legacy, and walked all over the hole zone.
Completely unbalanced.... and venomess
And this experience has caused me to not want to PvP ever again in ESO.

Theres a thing called skill.

The SECOND i read "Now, for the most part, we are all golded out" i knew you were a bad PvPer. ONLY thing that matters when it comes to quality in PvP.. are the weapons. Purp weps to Gold is a HUGE damage difference.
Armor? It doesnt mean a rats A*s.

What it really is on your end.. is a L2P issue.

del9 · August 2018

usmguy1234 wrote: »

This and I've also noticed people that can run full speed + and take damage like they are blocking... it even has the * by the damage number. Seems pretty suspicious.

Tap blocking

usmguy1234 · August 2018

del9 wrote: »

usmguy1234 wrote: »

This and I've also noticed people that can run full speed + and take damage like they are blocking... it even has the * by the damage number. Seems pretty suspicious.

Tap blocking

@del9 That's a new one. Seems like that would be easy with a macro... not sure how you'd do it on console... not saying it can't be done. It just would seem that their movement would be jerky but it's completely smooth and at full sprint speed.

del9 · August 2018

usmguy1234 wrote: »

del9 wrote: »

usmguy1234 wrote: »

This and I've also noticed people that can run full speed + and take damage like they are blocking... it even has the * by the damage number. Seems pretty suspicious.

Tap blocking

@del9 That's a new one. Seems like that would be easy with a macro... not sure how you'd do it on console... not saying it can't be done. It just would seem that their movement would be jerky but it's completely smooth and at full sprint speed.

Of course you can’t block or use abilities while sprinting, but most good players in a full kite back-turned sprint will be going through a defensive rotation. On stam im going thru vigor, FM, and class abilities like wings or extended ritual. If you tap block cancel each of your abilities in the kite rotation you can spend more time in full sprint, you will have good uptime on block mit. I’m not sure if this is what you saw, but this is how I kite (without macros) and I barely lose any sprint time.

Waffennacht · August 2018

del9 wrote: »

usmguy1234 wrote: »

del9 wrote: »

usmguy1234 wrote: »

This and I've also noticed people that can run full speed + and take damage like they are blocking... it even has the * by the damage number. Seems pretty suspicious.

Tap blocking

@del9 That's a new one. Seems like that would be easy with a macro... not sure how you'd do it on console... not saying it can't be done. It just would seem that their movement would be jerky but it's completely smooth and at full sprint speed.

Of course you can’t block or use abilities while sprinting, but most good players in a full kite back-turned sprint will be going through a defensive rotation. On stam im going thru vigor, FM, and class abilities like wings or extended ritual. If you tap block cancel each of your abilities in the kite rotation you can spend more time in full sprint, you will have good uptime on block mit. I’m not sure if this is what you saw, but this is how I kite (without macros) and I barely lose any sprint time.

That'd be very hard on Xbox, you gotta press down on the joystick to Sprint and that's not quick lol

Thogard · August 2018

Waffennacht wrote: »

del9 wrote: »

usmguy1234 wrote: »

del9 wrote: »

usmguy1234 wrote: »

This and I've also noticed people that can run full speed + and take damage like they are blocking... it even has the * by the damage number. Seems pretty suspicious.

Tap blocking

@del9 That's a new one. Seems like that would be easy with a macro... not sure how you'd do it on console... not saying it can't be done. It just would seem that their movement would be jerky but it's completely smooth and at full sprint speed.

Of course you can’t block or use abilities while sprinting, but most good players in a full kite back-turned sprint will be going through a defensive rotation. On stam im going thru vigor, FM, and class abilities like wings or extended ritual. If you tap block cancel each of your abilities in the kite rotation you can spend more time in full sprint, you will have good uptime on block mit. I’m not sure if this is what you saw, but this is how I kite (without macros) and I barely lose any sprint time.

That'd be very hard on Xbox, you gotta press down on the joystick to Sprint and that's not quick lol

Sounds terrible.

Console really can’t pull off any of the high-skill maneuvers you can do on PC. Not being able to tap block while sprinting would ruin pretty much every 1vX I’ve ever pulled off.

Thogard · August 2018

usmguy1234 wrote: »

del9 wrote: »

usmguy1234 wrote: »

This and I've also noticed people that can run full speed + and take damage like they are blocking... it even has the * by the damage number. Seems pretty suspicious.

Tap blocking

@del9 That's a new one. Seems like that would be easy with a macro... not sure how you'd do it on console... not saying it can't be done. It just would seem that their movement would be jerky but it's completely smooth and at full sprint speed.

It’s not a “new one”. Every good player does this.

It’s not something you could macro... and why would you? You just hold block when a projectile hits and immediately let go afterwards... blocking for less than half a second... it barely slows you down. Then it’s right back to sprinting.

Ramber · August 2018

mattaeus01b16_ESO wrote: »

PvP, lets discus this ESO travesty.
What the hell did I just witness? Well, it was one of the WORST experiences Iv had in ESO, since the beta. Between the bitching and whining of other people about a skill or 2 that, in there opinion, is a no talent hack for people that dont know how to play. To the venomous PVPers that call you out in tells, calling you everything under the moon (just because they died in a fair battle), to the gankers that just can not be killed.
Heres a scenario for you. A group of 6 PvP peeps, venture into IC. Join another group on 6 on taking a flag, when 2 apposing faction players show up... 2... just 2. Now, for the most part, we are all golded out, have our skills in check, and have a decent idea how to play the game. In the other group of 6, had a Former Emperor. So we stood a decent chance of wining, right? &^%#$& NO! Not even close.
Not only did we not drop one... But we all, at one time or another, re spawned and joined the fight again. All of our team ran draining poisons of one kind or another, I ran a frost staff myself and controls. These 2 farmed us for the next hour, untill we just left. NOT once, did they run out of resources, not once did they go below 50%, that we saw. NOT one control landed except 1 Rune Cage, for half a second. And most of the time, they had damage shields going, and never stopped running.
*&^%$ing Disgusting how the PvP community *** on someone for using a skill they dont like, where in situations like above, they used no Rune Cage, No SLOADS, No Caluurion's Legacy, and walked all over the hole zone.
Completely unbalanced.... and venomess
And this experience has caused me to not want to PvP ever again in ESO.

I hear you, this happens a lot and they actually show off stuff like this on tube/streams. When you are pretty good and with some friends/guildies then 2-4 people come to you group of 10-15 with 0 fear at all then whats HILARIOUS is they use a "run away" technique, they find stuff to run around so u cant get line of sight lol... they run and run, then attack here and there. I instructed my guild to not even engage these idiots any more there is no reason to.

Kelces · August 2018

This can happen in every area in this game.

I could tell you some stories about what I witnessed behaviour towards players, amazing indeed. But I won't, important is, that it is not a phenomenon limited to PvP. It only takes on different forms.

Bottom line: Relax, it's holidays you know...

StaticWave · August 2018

mattaeus01b16_ESO wrote: »

PvP, lets discus this ESO travesty.
What the hell did I just witness? Well, it was one of the WORST experiences Iv had in ESO, since the beta. Between the bitching and whining of other people about a skill or 2 that, in there opinion, is a no talent hack for people that dont know how to play. To the venomous PVPers that call you out in tells, calling you everything under the moon (just because they died in a fair battle), to the gankers that just can not be killed.
Heres a scenario for you. A group of 6 PvP peeps, venture into IC. Join another group on 6 on taking a flag, when 2 apposing faction players show up... 2... just 2. Now, for the most part, we are all golded out, have our skills in check, and have a decent idea how to play the game. In the other group of 6, had a Former Emperor. So we stood a decent chance of wining, right? &^%#$& NO! Not even close.
Not only did we not drop one... But we all, at one time or another, re spawned and joined the fight again. All of our team ran draining poisons of one kind or another, I ran a frost staff myself and controls. These 2 farmed us for the next hour, untill we just left. NOT once, did they run out of resources, not once did they go below 50%, that we saw. NOT one control landed except 1 Rune Cage, for half a second. And most of the time, they had damage shields going, and never stopped running.
*&^%$ing Disgusting how the PvP community *** on someone for using a skill they dont like, where in situations like above, they used no Rune Cage, No SLOADS, No Caluurion's Legacy, and walked all over the hole zone.
Completely unbalanced.... and venomess
And this experience has caused me to not want to PvP ever again in ESO.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehvAW-NXfoA

this is a clip of my 4 man group wiping a 15+ man IC group. Not hard to do when your opponents are clueless/wearing PvE gear.

K1NGPALM3R1 · August 2018

Sounds like you came across 2 very experienced players who know exactly what they are doing. I have been in there before with a group of around 20, We kept getting shown up by a 3 man team it wasn't over and over and we did kill them but they were organized, Offensive/defensive and they just new exactly what they were doing. Id like not to think of a cheat engine but you never no. Its something they probably do regularly and have it down to a T.

A video of some sort would be nice to see what was going on.

Thogard · August 2018

Was it this? This group started off at 12 but the first time we wiped them an IC boss did half the work for us. This was the only clean 2vX fight we got with that group w/ no boss adds:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znd9gPVwnQE

Asardes · August 2018

usmguy1234 wrote: »

This and I've also noticed people that can run full speed + and take damage like they are blocking... it even has the * by the damage number. Seems pretty suspicious.

Coward's Gear Set (from Battlegrounds)
(2 items) Adds 1206 Max Health
(3 items) Adds 129 Stamina Recovery
(4 items) Adds 129 Stamina Recovery
(5 items) While Sprinting you gain Major Expedition and Major Protection, increasing your Movement Speed and reducing your damage taken by 30%

Blocking mitigation is 50%, so Major Protection isn't that far off actually

Moonsorrow · August 2018

usmguy1234 wrote: »

This and I've also noticed people that can run full speed + and take damage like they are blocking... it even has the * by the damage number. Seems pretty suspicious.

Sword and Board ultimate allows that, often the effect does not show (due to lag and whatnot).

Reactive /quickly just tapping the block is a thing too, blocking while jumping ahead keeps the speed same in air if blocking or not. Also SnB passive helps with the moving while blocking speed. And speed bonuses on top of it.. can kinda move decently while blocking when needs.

This is what i meant when people always first go all "this is suspicious.. or cheating" before checking what actually mechanically allows the things they see.

Dredlord · August 2018

Thrusts-His-Spear wrote: »

I don't know how much easier zos could make it for players who outnumber smaller groups. This is getting ridiculous that people still complain when they get killed by a smaller group. Let's say the average player has 25k HP and there's two of them versus 12. The average light attack since the buff last patch is roughly 1.5 k to 2K. A 1.5 K light attack from 12 players would be 18K damage. If they use a skill let's say that does 3K on the same player that would be 36 thousand damage to a single player. Are you trying to tell me that you can't kill a single player putting out 54 thousand damage single Target as a group?

Did he dodge at that moment.

I'm just wondering because it totally *** on your argument.

Ps. Also I dont see any whining that small groups are beating larger groups in any significant volume.

usmguy1234 · August 2018

Moonsorrow wrote: »

usmguy1234 wrote: »

This and I've also noticed people that can run full speed + and take damage like they are blocking... it even has the * by the damage number. Seems pretty suspicious.

Sword and Board ultimate allows that, often the effect does not show (due to lag and whatnot).

Reactive /quickly just tapping the block is a thing too, blocking while jumping ahead keeps the speed same in air if blocking or not. Also SnB passive helps with the moving while blocking speed. And speed bonuses on top of it.. can kinda move decently while blocking when needs.

This is what i meant when people always first go all "this is suspicious.. or cheating" before checking what actually mechanically allows the things they see.

@Moonsorrow for one thing tap blocking would be super awkward on console. Sword and board ultimate is possible but the animation definitely wasn't visible. I think we can all agree without being patronizing that there are suspicious things in the game due to poor coding/ substandard servers. Suspicion=/=shaming someone for cheating.

usmguy1234 · August 2018

Thogard wrote: »

usmguy1234 wrote: »

del9 wrote: »

usmguy1234 wrote: »

This and I've also noticed people that can run full speed + and take damage like they are blocking... it even has the * by the damage number. Seems pretty suspicious.

Tap blocking

@del9 That's a new one. Seems like that would be easy with a macro... not sure how you'd do it on console... not saying it can't be done. It just would seem that their movement would be jerky but it's completely smooth and at full sprint speed.

usmguy1234 wrote: »

del9 wrote: »

usmguy1234 wrote: »

This and I've also noticed people that can run full speed + and take damage like they are blocking... it even has the * by the damage number. Seems pretty suspicious.

Tap blocking

@del9 That's a new one. Seems like that would be easy with a macro... not sure how you'd do it on console... not saying it can't be done. It just would seem that their movement would be jerky but it's completely smooth and at full sprint speed.

It’s not a “new one”. Every good player does this.

It’s not something you could macro... and why would you? You just hold block when a projectile hits and immediately let go afterwards... blocking for less than half a second... it barely slows you down. Then it’s right back to sprinting.

Try projectile(s). Anyways it was probably just shield ult that didn't have an animation. The person wasn't on their shield bar so it didn't immediately register to me that's what it was.

StaticWave · August 2018

Jeremy wrote: »

Faulgor wrote: »

I've run into such players as well. The frustrating part is that it's too obscure why you lose - how can someone have so many resources, take no damage, and deal more than enough damage themselves? I wish there was a feature to inspect another player's gear ..

Me too.

If there really was a build that allowed you to turn your character into one-man armies why don't more players do it? Why are these characters so rare?

That's why I think some kind of cheating might be involved. I'm not buying the argument there is only a handfull of skilled players in ESO's PvP and everyone else just sucks.

What if I told you that there is a build that can make you become a tank, while still doing enormous damage to the ordinary skill-less pvper? I’m talking near resistance cap, 4.5k+ crit resist, and 5k+ weapon damage.

Builds like that exist, but the reason why you don’t see many people using them is because they don’t want to theorycraft. They lookup youtube vids, copy other people’s builds, but don’t make an effort to at least tweak some stuff.

More importantly, theorycrafting requires testing, and “one-man army” builds require you to do just that, 1vX. If a player is mechanically bad, then not even a good build will help them. Builds are only 60% of the battle. The rest is mechanical skills, game knowledge, and a bit of rng luck

StaticWave · August 2018

Ramber wrote: »

mattaeus01b16_ESO wrote: »

PvP, lets discus this ESO travesty.
What the hell did I just witness? Well, it was one of the WORST experiences Iv had in ESO, since the beta. Between the bitching and whining of other people about a skill or 2 that, in there opinion, is a no talent hack for people that dont know how to play. To the venomous PVPers that call you out in tells, calling you everything under the moon (just because they died in a fair battle), to the gankers that just can not be killed.
Heres a scenario for you. A group of 6 PvP peeps, venture into IC. Join another group on 6 on taking a flag, when 2 apposing faction players show up... 2... just 2. Now, for the most part, we are all golded out, have our skills in check, and have a decent idea how to play the game. In the other group of 6, had a Former Emperor. So we stood a decent chance of wining, right? &^%#$& NO! Not even close.
Not only did we not drop one... But we all, at one time or another, re spawned and joined the fight again. All of our team ran draining poisons of one kind or another, I ran a frost staff myself and controls. These 2 farmed us for the next hour, untill we just left. NOT once, did they run out of resources, not once did they go below 50%, that we saw. NOT one control landed except 1 Rune Cage, for half a second. And most of the time, they had damage shields going, and never stopped running.
*&^%$ing Disgusting how the PvP community *** on someone for using a skill they dont like, where in situations like above, they used no Rune Cage, No SLOADS, No Caluurion's Legacy, and walked all over the hole zone.
Completely unbalanced.... and venomess
And this experience has caused me to not want to PvP ever again in ESO.

I hear you, this happens a lot and they actually show off stuff like this on tube/streams. When you are pretty good and with some friends/guildies then 2-4 people come to you group of 10-15 with 0 fear at all then whats HILARIOUS is they use a "run away" technique, they find stuff to run around so u cant get line of sight lol... they run and run, then attack here and there. I instructed my guild to not even engage these idiots any more there is no reason to.

What’s even MORE HILARIOUS is if those same “idiots” who run around stuff get 8-11 more people to match the size of whatever group that was chasing them, the fight would be so lopsided that you could call it a dummy target practice.

Grimhallow · August 2018

StaticWave wrote: »

Ramber wrote: »

mattaeus01b16_ESO wrote: »

PvP, lets discus this ESO travesty.
What the hell did I just witness? Well, it was one of the WORST experiences Iv had in ESO, since the beta. Between the bitching and whining of other people about a skill or 2 that, in there opinion, is a no talent hack for people that dont know how to play. To the venomous PVPers that call you out in tells, calling you everything under the moon (just because they died in a fair battle), to the gankers that just can not be killed.
Heres a scenario for you. A group of 6 PvP peeps, venture into IC. Join another group on 6 on taking a flag, when 2 apposing faction players show up... 2... just 2. Now, for the most part, we are all golded out, have our skills in check, and have a decent idea how to play the game. In the other group of 6, had a Former Emperor. So we stood a decent chance of wining, right? &^%#$& NO! Not even close.
Not only did we not drop one... But we all, at one time or another, re spawned and joined the fight again. All of our team ran draining poisons of one kind or another, I ran a frost staff myself and controls. These 2 farmed us for the next hour, untill we just left. NOT once, did they run out of resources, not once did they go below 50%, that we saw. NOT one control landed except 1 Rune Cage, for half a second. And most of the time, they had damage shields going, and never stopped running.
*&^%$ing Disgusting how the PvP community *** on someone for using a skill they dont like, where in situations like above, they used no Rune Cage, No SLOADS, No Caluurion's Legacy, and walked all over the hole zone.
Completely unbalanced.... and venomess
And this experience has caused me to not want to PvP ever again in ESO.

I hear you, this happens a lot and they actually show off stuff like this on tube/streams. When you are pretty good and with some friends/guildies then 2-4 people come to you group of 10-15 with 0 fear at all then whats HILARIOUS is they use a "run away" technique, they find stuff to run around so u cant get line of sight lol... they run and run, then attack here and there. I instructed my guild to not even engage these idiots any more there is no reason to.

What’s even MORE HILARIOUS is if those same “idiots” who run around stuff get 8-11 more people to match the size of whatever group that was chasing them, the fight would be so lopsided that you could call it a dummy target practice.

Except that target dummies take longer to kill, and don't drop AP when they die xD

Moonsorrow · August 2018

usmguy1234 wrote: »

Moonsorrow wrote: »

usmguy1234 wrote: »

This and I've also noticed people that can run full speed + and take damage like they are blocking... it even has the * by the damage number. Seems pretty suspicious.

Sword and Board ultimate allows that, often the effect does not show (due to lag and whatnot).

Reactive /quickly just tapping the block is a thing too, blocking while jumping ahead keeps the speed same in air if blocking or not. Also SnB passive helps with the moving while blocking speed. And speed bonuses on top of it.. can kinda move decently while blocking when needs.

This is what i meant when people always first go all "this is suspicious.. or cheating" before checking what actually mechanically allows the things they see.

@Moonsorrow for one thing tap blocking would be super awkward on console. Sword and board ultimate is possible but the animation definitely wasn't visible. I think we can all agree without being patronizing that there are suspicious things in the game due to poor coding/ substandard servers. Suspicion=/=shaming someone for cheating.

Yep, too often no animations visible because of lag and sometimes at Cyrodiil the game decides that there is too many effects same time and it leaves some important effects away, thats when some ultimates not show, and things start to happen in a way that people go: "what killed me lol?" when get hit by invisible dawnbreakers and so on. Noticed often that when i use SnB ulti and do a bar switch then its not visible even for myself too when going in on some action hot spots.

RedRook · August 2018

mattaeus01b16_ESO wrote: »

...they used no Rune Cage, No SLOADS, No Caluurion's Legacy, and walked all over the hole zone.
Completely unbalanced....

So they beat your greater numbers, without cheese?! It must be hax!

Merlin13KAGL · August 2018

Without video, every ounce of this is speculation. Could be exploits, could be PvP badassery. There's simply no way to know.

TheDoomsdayMonster · August 2018

mattaeus01b16_ESO wrote: »

PvP, lets discus this ESO travesty.
What the hell did I just witness? Well, it was one of the WORST experiences Iv had in ESO, since the beta. Between the bitching and whining of other people about a skill or 2 that, in there opinion, is a no talent hack for people that dont know how to play. To the venomous PVPers that call you out in tells, calling you everything under the moon (just because they died in a fair battle), to the gankers that just can not be killed.
Heres a scenario for you. A group of 6 PvP peeps, venture into IC. Join another group on 6 on taking a flag, when 2 apposing faction players show up... 2... just 2. Now, for the most part, we are all golded out, have our skills in check, and have a decent idea how to play the game. In the other group of 6, had a Former Emperor. So we stood a decent chance of wining, right? &^%#$& NO! Not even close.
Not only did we not drop one... But we all, at one time or another, re spawned and joined the fight again. All of our team ran draining poisons of one kind or another, I ran a frost staff myself and controls. These 2 farmed us for the next hour, untill we just left. NOT once, did they run out of resources, not once did they go below 50%, that we saw. NOT one control landed except 1 Rune Cage, for half a second. And most of the time, they had damage shields going, and never stopped running.
*&^%$ing Disgusting how the PvP community *** on someone for using a skill they dont like, where in situations like above, they used no Rune Cage, No SLOADS, No Caluurion's Legacy, and walked all over the hole zone.
Completely unbalanced.... and venomess
And this experience has caused me to not want to PvP ever again in ESO.

Git Gud dude...

2 people should never ever beat 12...ever.

If the 2 beat the 12, then the 12 really need to learn to play.

Priyasekarssk · August 2018

mattaeus01b16_ESO wrote: »

PvP, lets discus this ESO travesty.
What the hell did I just witness? Well, it was one of the WORST experiences Iv had in ESO, since the beta. Between the bitching and whining of other people about a skill or 2 that, in there opinion, is a no talent hack for people that dont know how to play. To the venomous PVPers that call you out in tells, calling you everything under the moon (just because they died in a fair battle), to the gankers that just can not be killed.
Heres a scenario for you. A group of 6 PvP peeps, venture into IC. Join another group on 6 on taking a flag, when 2 apposing faction players show up... 2... just 2. Now, for the most part, we are all golded out, have our skills in check, and have a decent idea how to play the game. In the other group of 6, had a Former Emperor. So we stood a decent chance of wining, right? &^%#$& NO! Not even close.
Not only did we not drop one... But we all, at one time or another, re spawned and joined the fight again. All of our team ran draining poisons of one kind or another, I ran a frost staff myself and controls. These 2 farmed us for the next hour, untill we just left. NOT once, did they run out of resources, not once did they go below 50%, that we saw. NOT one control landed except 1 Rune Cage, for half a second. And most of the time, they had damage shields going, and never stopped running.
*&^%$ing Disgusting how the PvP community *** on someone for using a skill they dont like, where in situations like above, they used no Rune Cage, No SLOADS, No Caluurion's Legacy, and walked all over the hole zone.
Completely unbalanced.... and venomess
And this experience has caused me to not want to PvP ever again in ESO.

There are some cheaters cheating with movement speed for very long time streamers included. Its not something new. When they do that, you cannot even land 1 hit or a CC. When they do it in NB its impossible to catch them. Barely they take damage no matter how many people are attacking. Because movement speed ridicuously high, its cannot comprehend the damage. Even with 3 swifts you cannot catch them. There are many people using cheat engine/hacks to do that for cheating positions with ridiculous movement speed . Sometimes they completely disappear out of sight and respawn in another position in fraction of second. Its kind of infinite super sprint. If you see people with ridiculous movment speed , there is a high probablity they are cheaters. Just avoid them and report them. Never go in their direction. Its best way to punish movement speed cheaters.

Dont worry you are not a noob , while the other person is cheating. Cheater is the noob. Just leave the place. You can never win a cheater unless you are a cheater. ZOs has to make speed hard cap to stop these noob cheaters.

But if they have high movment speed with expedition , but within reasonable limits and you are able to execute some ablities , and they take damage and they take reaonable time time to recover between each execution, then they could be real pros. I dont think its even possible to hack core numbers other than movement speed apart from NB & DK macros.

I dont think resources can be hacked, because its server side. But who knows.

Thogard · August 2018

Priyasekarssk wrote: »

mattaeus01b16_ESO wrote: »

PvP, lets discus this ESO travesty.
What the hell did I just witness? Well, it was one of the WORST experiences Iv had in ESO, since the beta. Between the bitching and whining of other people about a skill or 2 that, in there opinion, is a no talent hack for people that dont know how to play. To the venomous PVPers that call you out in tells, calling you everything under the moon (just because they died in a fair battle), to the gankers that just can not be killed.
Heres a scenario for you. A group of 6 PvP peeps, venture into IC. Join another group on 6 on taking a flag, when 2 apposing faction players show up... 2... just 2. Now, for the most part, we are all golded out, have our skills in check, and have a decent idea how to play the game. In the other group of 6, had a Former Emperor. So we stood a decent chance of wining, right? &^%#$& NO! Not even close.
Not only did we not drop one... But we all, at one time or another, re spawned and joined the fight again. All of our team ran draining poisons of one kind or another, I ran a frost staff myself and controls. These 2 farmed us for the next hour, untill we just left. NOT once, did they run out of resources, not once did they go below 50%, that we saw. NOT one control landed except 1 Rune Cage, for half a second. And most of the time, they had damage shields going, and never stopped running.
*&^%$ing Disgusting how the PvP community *** on someone for using a skill they dont like, where in situations like above, they used no Rune Cage, No SLOADS, No Caluurion's Legacy, and walked all over the hole zone.
Completely unbalanced.... and venomess
And this experience has caused me to not want to PvP ever again in ESO.

There are some cheaters cheating with movement speed for very long time streamers included. Its not something new. When they do that, you cannot even land 1 hit or a CC. Barely they take damage no matter how many people are attacking. Because movement speed ridicuously high, its cannot comprehend the damage. Even with 3 swifts you cannot catch them. There are many people using cheat engine to do that for cheating positions with ridiculous movement speed . Sometimes they completely disappear out of sight and respawn in another position in fraction of second. Its kind of infinite super sprint. If you see people with ridiculous movment speed , there is a high probablity they are cheaters. Just avoid them and report them. Never go in their direction. Its best way to punish movement speed cheaters.

Dont worry you are not a noob , while the other person is cheating. Cheater is the noob. Just leave the place. You can never win a cheater unless you are a cheater.

But if they have high movment speed with expedition , but within reasonable limits and you are able to execute some ablities , and they take damage and they take reaonable time time to recover between each execution, then they could be real pros. I dont think its even possible to hack core numbers other than movement speed apart from NB & DK macros.

I dont think resources can be hacked, because its server side. But who knows.

Super fast movement speed? Disappearing and then reappearing in another place? There's a name for players like that.

We call them...

Australians

artal · August 2018

This topic was great laugh i must say...
Also the part about cheating on console

Coulndt play much this event but once i did logged in cyro and there was this mag sorc with constantly 7-8 people on him. He would kill few but new would come.
So me and my friend just watch as he decimated people over and over again.
When they gave up he turned on my friend and than two of us jumped him, both decent players that knows how to heal, cc and attack (not pros though). Anyway it was pretty short work and he was done. The point is that there is just no way to 1vx players that know what they are doing (ofc that implies that they have decent build that can dish dmg to).

So ye, git gud my good sir