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Nerf Magicka DK
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✭✭✭✭✭PelinalWhitestrake wrote: »
Yeah, let's add a penalty to heavy armor. If you wear 5 pieces or more your character cannot swim, and it applies to all classes.DK's should actually receive a penalty for wearing heavy armor. They make the best tanks and need to be nerfed in some areas (can't be all top tier healer, tank and damage dealer). Reduce their mitigation by 40% and we should see a lot more diversity in builds regarding tanks.
/s
That's just silly. I'm trying to suggest actual balance changes that would fix the game here. DK's are currently way OP in PVE as tanks, dd's and even healers.
No. What You're trying is just to present Your extremly subjective opinion coming from huge lack of experience in game.2 -
leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭PelinalWhitestrake wrote: »
Yeah, let's add a penalty to heavy armor. If you wear 5 pieces or more your character cannot swim, and it applies to all classes.DK's should actually receive a penalty for wearing heavy armor. They make the best tanks and need to be nerfed in some areas (can't be all top tier healer, tank and damage dealer). Reduce their mitigation by 40% and we should see a lot more diversity in builds regarding tanks.
/s
That's just silly. I'm trying to suggest actual balance changes that would fix the game here. DK's are currently way OP in PVE as tanks, dd's and even healers.
No. What You're trying is just to present Your extremly subjective opinion coming from huge lack of experience in game.
This 100%.
Play the game for more than a week first.
In fact go and make a mag dk first, can't balance something you haven't played.PS4 EU DC
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Moonsorrow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭This tread makes me wanna BUFF magDK. A LOT.
Though most likely its all coming from a magblade main, that will make threads like this in fear of main getting nerfed so have to write daily "nerf sorc dk warden templar" stuff to make it seem like magblade is not the one needing nerfs.1 -
ak_pvp✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Very well done OP. Watching this mess go down was funny, but if you can't tell, this is bait.
Calling standard cheap. Saying DK has good sustain that they can go 2 rotations without heavy attacking (This is bad for those who don't PvP, ideally you'd go through the entire parse) and saying whip should be raised to 4k. These are so outlandish that its obvious.MagDK main. PC/EU @AK-ESO
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Dubhliam✭✭✭✭✭
✭I can't believe this thread is still open.
Just yesterday I went into vAS+1.
Group composition:
2 DK tanks
2 templar healers
3 magsorcs
5 magblades
So yeah... nerf DK pls.
How can you people read this th
among other ramblings and still engage in a "discussion" with this guy?T..., remove the flame damage buff from engulfing flames (and maybe add that effect to liquid lightning? magSorc needs some love), ...1 -
TrinityBreaker✭✭✭✭✭I genuinely think the OP is wetarded.
Edit: I know what I said.Edited by TrinityBreaker on August 5, 2018 2:30PMEbonheart for life.
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Arobain✭✭✭✭for all the people laughing, tell mea counterplay in a 1v1 melee to ( flame breath> the fiery strike and then fossilize > spam fiery lash ) I'LL WAIT, CAUSE I WANT ALL YOU LAUGHERS TO BACK IT UP0 -
boombazookajd✭✭✭✭✭and I reiterate...
This is why pvp is cancer to this game. No nerfs to the classes come from PvE. Classes have lost their identity...why? Because Forniteboiz who PvP expect some kind of "equality" amongst classes so that the only thing that differs is the name of the class and the skill, along with the visuals of said skill.
Everyone always inevitably brings up 1vX or how they got melted by 3 skills. Granted the OP says he's talking about PVE but come on, this is PVP in disguise. No one in their right mind thinks that PvE should ever be nerfed. Every nerf magDK's have taken is because of PVP fanboiz qq'ing about how strong they are in 1vX or whatever other stupid things you brotato chips do in Cyrodil besides knock down helpless doors, farm scroll APs, faction jump, or buy emp.
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Thimesis✭boombazookajd wrote: »and I reiterate...
This is why pvp is cancer to this game. No nerfs to the classes come from PvE. Classes have lost their identity...why? Because Forniteboiz who PvP expect some kind of "equality" amongst classes so that the only thing that differs is the name of the class and the skill, along with the visuals of said skill.
Everyone always inevitably brings up 1vX or how they got melted by 3 skills. Granted the OP says he's talking about PVE but come on, this is PVP in disguise. No one in their right mind thinks that PvE should ever be nerfed. Every nerf magDK's have taken is because of PVP fanboiz qq'ing about how strong they are in 1vX or whatever other stupid things you brotato chips do in Cyrodil besides knock down helpless doors, farm scroll APs, faction jump, or buy emp.
This is a DK dominated meta. I want more PVE class variety, you see DK's as Tanks, Healers and DD's everywhere. This calls for a nerf.0 -
Thimesis✭leepalmer95 wrote: »PelinalWhitestrake wrote: »
Yeah, let's add a penalty to heavy armor. If you wear 5 pieces or more your character cannot swim, and it applies to all classes.DK's should actually receive a penalty for wearing heavy armor. They make the best tanks and need to be nerfed in some areas (can't be all top tier healer, tank and damage dealer). Reduce their mitigation by 40% and we should see a lot more diversity in builds regarding tanks.
/s
That's just silly. I'm trying to suggest actual balance changes that would fix the game here. DK's are currently way OP in PVE as tanks, dd's and even healers.
No. What You're trying is just to present Your extremly subjective opinion coming from huge lack of experience in game.
This 100%.
Play the game for more than a week first.
In fact go and make a mag dk first, can't balance something you haven't played.
I posted a 41k 6M parse a page ago, first time parsing on a magDK. I did it without even looking at the screen, and switching hand placement (right hand on keyboard and left on mouse). Go ahead and tell me that magDK isn't OP.0 -
ak_pvp✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭for all the people laughing, tell mea counterplay in a 1v1 melee to ( flame breath> the fiery strike and then fossilize > spam fiery lash ) I'LL WAIT, CAUSE I WANT ALL YOU LAUGHERS TO BACK IT UP
Ah, the case where satire attracts the people being mocked who feel like they are in good company.
Simple. Avoid firey breath because its got a *** hitbox so easy to evade by just kiting. Fire strike, 5m, similar. Fossilize, can't quite avoid it, but use shuffle or FM and then dodge the power whip. Also if you die to whip spam l2p.MagDK main. PC/EU @AK-ESO
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Thimesis✭for all the people laughing, tell mea counterplay in a 1v1 melee to ( flame breath> the fiery strike and then fossilize > spam fiery lash ) I'LL WAIT, CAUSE I WANT ALL YOU LAUGHERS TO BACK IT UP
Ah, the case where satire attracts the people being mocked who feel like they are in good company.
Simple. Avoid firey breath because its got a *** hitbox so easy to evade by just kiting. Fire strike, 5m, similar. Fossilize, can't quite avoid it, but use shuffle or FM and then dodge the power whip. Also if you die to whip spam l2p.
I think fiery breath should go down to 5 meters just like burning embers. It's a free 10% damage buff, shouldn't be easy to land IMO.0 -
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✭✭Every class has annoying little things, but I don't like anybody getting nerfed personally... Dk wings are very annoying for me when I am on my sorcerer, but if anything I think that they, along with magicka templar and warden, could actually do with a buff, rather than nerfing anybody. I don't agree with making classes worse in order to make others better, it would be far better to make the less stronger classes better in my opinion
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nalimoleb14_ESO✭✭✭✭OP mains a magSorc and is convinced that the “nerf Sorc” threads came from bitter DK players, as evidenced by his original post and the fact that he is calling for PVE nerfs (LOL) from a class that 1) just became usable again in PVE 2) is not even the top competing DPS class 3) Is scarce if not non-existent in vet trials (except as tanks of course) 4) he literally targeted the main viable skills a magDK has to be competitive.
Look - nerfs suck, it sucks when you get hit by them, I can imagine it’s hard not to take it personally, but you either roll with the punches or gtfo.Edited by nalimoleb14_ESO on August 5, 2018 5:14PM0 -
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✭✭✭✭boombazookajd wrote: »and I reiterate...
This is why pvp is cancer to this game. No nerfs to the classes come from PvE. Classes have lost their identity...why? Because Forniteboiz who PvP expect some kind of "equality" amongst classes so that the only thing that differs is the name of the class and the skill, along with the visuals of said skill.
Everyone always inevitably brings up 1vX or how they got melted by 3 skills. Granted the OP says he's talking about PVE but come on, this is PVP in disguise. No one in their right mind thinks that PvE should ever be nerfed. Every nerf magDK's have taken is because of PVP fanboiz qq'ing about how strong they are in 1vX or whatever other stupid things you brotato chips do in Cyrodil besides knock down helpless doors, farm scroll APs, faction jump, or buy emp.
This is a DK dominated meta. I want more PVE class variety, you see DK's as Tanks, Healers and DD's everywhere. This calls for a nerf.
The level of delusion...1 -
miteba✭✭✭✭Nerf requests of any kind should have a crowns payment attached to it...
One day all classes Will be the same, with different skill names... And then bye bye ESO1 -
Sreja_Bone✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »PelinalWhitestrake wrote: »
Yeah, let's add a penalty to heavy armor. If you wear 5 pieces or more your character cannot swim, and it applies to all classes.DK's should actually receive a penalty for wearing heavy armor. They make the best tanks and need to be nerfed in some areas (can't be all top tier healer, tank and damage dealer). Reduce their mitigation by 40% and we should see a lot more diversity in builds regarding tanks.
/s
That's just silly. I'm trying to suggest actual balance changes that would fix the game here. DK's are currently way OP in PVE as tanks, dd's and even healers.
No. What You're trying is just to present Your extremly subjective opinion coming from huge lack of experience in game.
This 100%.
Play the game for more than a week first.
In fact go and make a mag dk first, can't balance something you haven't played.
I posted a 41k 6M parse a page ago, first time parsing on a magDK.
I did it without even looking at the screen, and switching hand placement (right hand on keyboard and left on mouse). Go ahead and tell me that magDK isn't OP.
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JumpmanLane✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭for all the people laughing, tell mea counterplay in a 1v1 melee to ( flame breath> the fiery strike and then fossilize > spam fiery lash ) I'LL WAIT, CAUSE I WANT ALL YOU LAUGHERS TO BACK IT UP
After fossilize it would be powerlash as fossilize procs it then LEAP LOL. Not so much spam fiery lash. Particularly if the MagDk is wearing Skoria and he waited til THAT PROCCED hehehehe
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Gulkrim-mur✭✭✭Onefrkncrzypope wrote: »1/10 mate would not bait again
What other class has a straight up 25% total damage buff? Also magDK rotation is super simple... yet so powerful. Doesn't seem fair to me. Compare it with magSorcs. Around same DPS but Sorcs need a much harder rotation to reach it.
Nightblades lol.
Yes the sorc is challenging to burst a player to death trapped in runecage don't worry tho if u don't kill them the die after time cage pop and mage fury proc. Don't forget that implosion. Rage noon learn to fight one. They are bad at open world.Edited by Gulkrim-mur on August 5, 2018 8:29PM1 -
webrgesner✭✭✭✭bruh. 9/10 i kill mag dks. I have played magdk pvp and its hard. but there are some people who are super skilled with using them. GTFO with this post xD0 -
webrgesner✭✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »PelinalWhitestrake wrote: »
Yeah, let's add a penalty to heavy armor. If you wear 5 pieces or more your character cannot swim, and it applies to all classes.DK's should actually receive a penalty for wearing heavy armor. They make the best tanks and need to be nerfed in some areas (can't be all top tier healer, tank and damage dealer). Reduce their mitigation by 40% and we should see a lot more diversity in builds regarding tanks.
/s
That's just silly. I'm trying to suggest actual balance changes that would fix the game here. DK's are currently way OP in PVE as tanks, dd's and even healers.
No. What You're trying is just to present Your extremly subjective opinion coming from huge lack of experience in game.
This 100%.
Play the game for more than a week first.
In fact go and make a mag dk first, can't balance something you haven't played.
@leepalmer95 my 1st pvp character was a magdk. I barely play it now because its a hard class to master and the burst isnt even good. kiting is hard (you have to use mist form) which i dont even like because its hard to sustain for me. People dont understand how hard it is to play a magdk and even get a kill with it xD this "nerf mag dk" is a joke0 -
Chibs✭✭✭✭boombazookajd wrote: »and I reiterate...
This is why pvp is cancer to this game. No nerfs to the classes come from PvE. Classes have lost their identity...why? Because Forniteboiz who PvP expect some kind of "equality" amongst classes so that the only thing that differs is the name of the class and the skill, along with the visuals of said skill.
Everyone always inevitably brings up 1vX or how they got melted by 3 skills. Granted the OP says he's talking about PVE but come on, this is PVP in disguise. No one in their right mind thinks that PvE should ever be nerfed. Every nerf magDK's have taken is because of PVP fanboiz qq'ing about how strong they are in 1vX or whatever other stupid things you brotato chips do in Cyrodil besides knock down helpless doors, farm scroll APs, faction jump, or buy emp.
This is a DK dominated meta. I want more PVE class variety, you see DK's as Tanks, Healers and DD's everywhere. This calls for a nerf.
What? Haha yes DKs are the best tanks, but how often do you meet a DK healer man? I think they’re pretty good and I have one but when I’m doing vet content I rarely see them EVER. Go to any competitive trial group, you will most likely never ever in a million years see a DK healer. You will also most likely never see a Mag DK DPS in any competitive trial group because the truth is, their dps isn’t enough to compete with the 5 Magblade 3 Stamblade/ or maybe a Stamplar meta. You are so delusional.1 -
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✭The Uninvited wrote: »alainjbrennanb16_ESO wrote: »Onefrkncrzypope wrote: »1/10 mate would not bait again
What other class has a straight up 25% total damage buff? Also magDK rotation is super simple... yet so powerful. Doesn't seem fair to me. Compare it with magSorcs. Around same DPS but Sorcs need a much harder rotation to reach it.
You have not set up you sorc right then
DK's reach 55-60k solo buffed (on a 51mil dummy). Show me a parse of magSorcs doing as much.
Show me a parse of a DK doing that first.
Edit: Oh, and please make that a parse of YOUR own DK.
Right? It was my first try too....0 -
Lylith✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭for all the people laughing, tell mea counterplay in a 1v1 melee to ( flame breath> the fiery strike and then fossilize > spam fiery lash ) I'LL WAIT, CAUSE I WANT ALL YOU LAUGHERS TO BACK IT UP
Ah, the case where satire attracts the people being mocked who feel like they are in good company.
Simple. Avoid firey breath because its got a *** hitbox so easy to evade by just kiting. Fire strike, 5m, similar. Fossilize, can't quite avoid it, but use shuffle or FM and then dodge the power whip. Also if you die to whip spam l2p.
so when break free bugs out, but charges you stam anyway and keeps you petrified and whipped to ***, it's a l2p issue?
fascinating.1
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