callen4492 wrote: »Damn, that’s a cool build. My mind is blown right now. I was totally unaware that this had the potential to be so successful with so little max mag/stam. I recently played in a BG (on Xbox) and had a really tough time against a frost warden. I really thought I was going to see my gt (ThePhatLard) on the losing side of a fight in one of your clips. Well done. I hope you’ll share more clips of your char once more developed.
I think zaan could be a huge boon to your character. It’s tough to make it work but is a cheesy way to potentially get huge damage- especially with all the CC you’re doing.
Also, if you stick with torugs and put a different glyph on your snb bar, I suggest a shock glyph. The vulnerability that concussion status effect produces is devastating and you’re already applying the chilled status effect plenty on your char.
@ak_pvp Do enchants and poisons fire from a “shield” skill auch as reverb bash? Do any of y’all know?
Much props.
Waffennacht wrote: »They do fire off of reverb etc
Zaan would be a very strong choice, but after grinding MA 100 times I don't feel like grinding anything any time soon lol. (Need either frost staff or heavy helm)
Swift x2 also may be happening when I get more transmutation stones
In about 8 hours (at work so I can only hope) this build will officially be a Death match Leaderboard Build (112500 current score)
Lightning, Disease, Frost, and Magicka return glyphs are all tempting to use (to replace my back bar glyph) same with Magicka drain poisons
The low mag pool I can feel at times (why I'm gonna adjust that)
Gotta say, it's a ton of fun to use
Edit: BTW doesn't that costume look dope?!
You didn't mention the very specific bug/exploit associated with this setup. Can't watch vid now, but do you mention it in the vid?
callen4492 wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »They do fire off of reverb etc
Zaan would be a very strong choice, but after grinding MA 100 times I don't feel like grinding anything any time soon lol. (Need either frost staff or heavy helm)
Swift x2 also may be happening when I get more transmutation stones
In about 8 hours (at work so I can only hope) this build will officially be a Death match Leaderboard Build (112500 current score)
Lightning, Disease, Frost, and Magicka return glyphs are all tempting to use (to replace my back bar glyph) same with Magicka drain poisons
The low mag pool I can feel at times (why I'm gonna adjust that)
Gotta say, it's a ton of fun to use
Edit: BTW doesn't that costume look dope?!
Freaking awesome costume. First thing I noticed. What is it?
As far as weapon glyphs go, I would only stay away from a frost glyph, unless you just want it to go with the theme of the build. You’re procc’ng the frost status effect plenty from all your skills. Every other glyph would give you a significant increase in performance. Also, does torugs improve poisons also? Or would you switch to sloads if you used poisons?
Zaan isn’t hard to farm. I only have 19k dps on my pve magsorc build and I was able to farm it pretty easily. I will help you if you want and would give you the zaan visage if I get it. We just need people who know the mechanics.
My dps is embarrassing but I don’t really care much about end-game pve, only pvp. Never done much to improve at PvE content.
I feel you on not wanting to grind after running MA 100 times. I refuse to try to grind a dungeon for a specific weapon, unless it’s a special set-piece and then only MAYBE. But scalecaller vet really is pretty easy on non-hard-mode.
Also, you might benefit from trying a clockwork city filet for extra magic or orzorgas bear haunch for extra health recovery. With the filet, you would lose stam recovery but could maybe handle it. The bear haunch gives you enerything jewels of misrule gives, but extra health recovery.
Metemsycosis wrote: »Question: are you ultimates worth anything with low max stats?
Unique build, points for creativity.
Mister_DMC wrote: »@Waffennacht Any reason to run VMA ice staff or master ice staff?
Mister_DMC wrote: »@Waffennacht K cool, I've talked to Jack before about building an Ice warden. Even went so far as to make my Stam warden an Argonian with the name The-Wind-of-Winter. Luckily I've been saving the 7 gold VMA ice staves for something and a full gold set of Winterborn as well, all those VMA weekly rewards lol.
I would
1. swap skoria for bloodspawn
2. Swap frost clench for ele drain
3. Swap reverb for aoe defile skill
4. Swap torugs for impreg and just stack impen 1k cp all body
5. Infused pot cost reduction trait/enchants on 3x
6. Expedition lingering pots/immov speed Stam/tri pots/major vitality lingering pots
21sec pot time and use that as your sustain
7. Infused ice staff with absorb mag enchant
I would
1. swap skoria for bloodspawn
2. Swap frost clench for ele drain
3. Swap reverb for aoe defile skill
4. Swap torugs for impreg and just stack impen 1k cp all body
5. Infused pot cost reduction trait/enchants on 3x
6. Expedition lingering pots/immov speed Stam/tri pots/major vitality lingering pots
21sec pot time and use that as your sustain
7. Infused ice staff with absorb mag enchant
Super interesting build! especially enjoyin it as I'm leveling my frost mag den theses days.
And what about ice hearts monster set to synergize with all the frost dommage?
Waffennacht wrote: »I would
1. swap skoria for bloodspawn
2. Swap frost clench for ele drain
3. Swap reverb for aoe defile skill
4. Swap torugs for impreg and just stack impen 1k cp all body
5. Infused pot cost reduction trait/enchants on 3x
6. Expedition lingering pots/immov speed Stam/tri pots/major vitality lingering pots
21sec pot time and use that as your sustain
7. Infused ice staff with absorb mag enchant
Your idea has better sustain and better defense but loses hard CC and over half of it's damage capabilities.
This idea seems great for a premade group build.
Personally I always PuG and love killing opponents. I think your idea just doesn't have enough damage for my tastes.
Though some of your ideas I can implement and will trySuper interesting build! especially enjoyin it as I'm leveling my frost mag den theses days.
And what about ice hearts monster set to synergize with all the frost dommage?
I kinda hate ice heart lmfao. The shield won't last at all therefore won't give you any damage. The shield size is meh.
Skoria/Zaan is pretty necessary for reliable damage, I would also consider grothdarr if I couldn't have either of the first two.
The build has 0 burst damage without the proc sets. If you drop them, you either need to change a lot or become a superb group tank imo
Waffennacht wrote: »I would
1. swap skoria for bloodspawn
2. Swap frost clench for ele drain
3. Swap reverb for aoe defile skill
4. Swap torugs for impreg and just stack impen 1k cp all body
5. Infused pot cost reduction trait/enchants on 3x
6. Expedition lingering pots/immov speed Stam/tri pots/major vitality lingering pots
21sec pot time and use that as your sustain
7. Infused ice staff with absorb mag enchant
Your idea has better sustain and better defense but loses hard CC and over half of it's damage capabilities.
This idea seems great for a premade group build.
Personally I always PuG and love killing opponents. I think your idea just doesn't have enough damage for my tastes.
Though some of your ideas I can implement and will trySuper interesting build! especially enjoyin it as I'm leveling my frost mag den theses days.
And what about ice hearts monster set to synergize with all the frost dommage?
I kinda hate ice heart lmfao. The shield won't last at all therefore won't give you any damage. The shield size is meh.
Skoria/Zaan is pretty necessary for reliable damage, I would also consider grothdarr if I couldn't have either of the first two.
The build has 0 burst damage without the proc sets. If you drop them, you either need to change a lot or become a superb group tank imo
Mister_DMC wrote: »Hmmm or overwhelming surge
Waffennacht wrote: ».Mister_DMC wrote: »Hmmm or overwhelming surge
Overwhelming is a great set.
Would better to be a Magden with overwhelming because it's light armor, so either winterborn + overwhelming light Magden or overwhelming + heavy and would need to be tweaked to better accommodate overwhelming