Are we stupid or really stupid?

weedgenius · July 2018

Complains about the product, says the product won’t improve so long as people continue to pour money into this subpar product, then admits to pouring money into the subpar product. I don’t get it.

Madrax573 · July 2018

I play from Australia with an average ping of 200+ and it runs fine and smooth on my laptop.

I've had the disappearing walls happen a few times but a quick restart and cache clear and goes away for me.

WildWilbur · July 2018

Sovjet wrote: »

ESO is not dying, and if so. Provide some hard facts that show that's it's dying.

Maybe he's got alternative facts?

Sovjet · July 2018

WildWilbur wrote: »

Sovjet wrote: »

ESO is not dying, and if so. Provide some hard facts that show that's it's dying.

Maybe he's got alternative facts?

Well he didn't provide them either hahahah. What a joke...

Agobi · July 2018

I am not giving money to Zo$....so I consider myself firmly in the "not stupid" category......

webrgesner · July 2018

My life sucks. This games world is more beautiful than mine. In this game i have a purpose! People need me and i am Tamriels savior! In real life im nothing, people sucks, life is meaningless. But tamriel is whats up. Thats why im stupid and pay for the game

Marabornwingrion · July 2018

I've also gave them a lot of money in the past, but I won't anymore.

I don't buy crowns, I don't buy stuff from crown store, I will also cancel my eso+ soon.

My patience have ended.

Olen_Mikko · July 2018

Sovjet wrote: »

Morgul667 wrote: »

I unsubbed already

Guess what, no one cares

I do, hats off this great warrior with strenght. I couldn't do it

Marabornwingrion · July 2018

webrgesner wrote: »

My life sucks. This games world is more beautiful than mine. In this game i have a purpose! People need me and i am Tamriels savior! In real life im nothing, people sucks, life is meaningless. But tamriel is whats up. Thats why im stupid and pay for the game

I think psychologist could help you with your vision of yourself and surrounding world.

Or you're just trolling...

White wabbit · July 2018

Sovjet wrote: »

Morgul667 wrote: »

I unsubbed already

Guess what, no one cares

Guess what I care less money = more issues with the game

Pixel_Zealot · July 2018

Nope, done paying for a lacklustre service. Cancelled my sub this morning for various reasons.

I'll stick to other studios who actually deserve my 'irrelevant' sub.

Altaire · July 2018

Astrid_V wrote: »

webrgesner wrote: »

My life sucks. This games world is more beautiful than mine. In this game i have a purpose! People need me and i am Tamriels savior! In real life im nothing, people sucks, life is meaningless. But tamriel is whats up. Thats why im stupid and pay for the game

I think psychologist could help you with your vision of yourself and surrounding world.

Or you're just trolling...

Do ya charge for this service or can ya make me better armor/weapons so I FEEL better?
pills work too.

Turelus · July 2018

If the game as complete garbage none of us would play it.

I sure wouldn't give them money if the game didn't have something I enjoy. However for me personally the game gives out enough fun and enjoyment to warrant me playing and supporting it.

Everyone has to make that choice for themselves however, it's also possible to play the game with very small investment depending on what you're preferred playing style is.
If you don't buy Crown Store items then it's only Expansion (standard edition), and 1-3 DLC a year depending if the content interests you.

The_Protagonist · July 2018

Sovjet wrote: »

Morgul667 wrote: »

I unsubbed already

Guess what, no one cares

Seems like you care enough to let them know that

Sparr0w · July 2018

White wabbit wrote: »

bellatrixed wrote: »

DeadlyPhoenix wrote: »

ESO is dying

We're all dying
All MMOs die eventually
Nothing lasts forever

But if ESO is on its deathbed I'm a shoe.

I'd say that there has been a vast drop of player base on xbox Eu

Came back for SS then left again im guessing.

Morgul667 · July 2018

Sovjet wrote: »

Morgul667 wrote: »

I unsubbed already

Guess what, no one cares

But I care

enough not to support devs that destroy my game bit by bit xD

Cuthceol · July 2018

We? ZO$ have made £19.99 out of me in the last two years and I got Summerset and Morrowind for that,
they've not made any more than that because of the state of the game and how long it takes to fix stuff,
I've been playing practically every day though for varying amounts and will continue playing practically for free until they decide to spend more money on fixing bugs and/or not introducing bugs by the hundred in the first place.

ps. Been here since beta and had no problems with sub, it's not the cost but what I'm getting for it that is the issue for me.

Palidon · July 2018

Wonder why ZOS has had so many ESO-Plus Free Weekends and membership drives offering free crown crates to those who are subscribers or those that subscribe? Well to me that says they have lost subscribers hand over foot and are trying to re coop subscriber income. Why would anyone pay to play a game that is riddled with bugs, plagued with poor game performance and pathetic game support? What's really sad it's been going on for four years. Even the content they put out (new DLC's) are just clones of older DLC's. It's their game and they are slowly but surely putting in the grave yard. There are new games coming out on the horizon that I think will put the final nails in ZOS's coffin lid. I still play this game but not nearly as much as I use to. In the past I was an ESO-Plus member but not any more. This game is not worth the subscription cost.

FakeFox · July 2018

Olen_Mikko wrote: »

customer service blaming us for their lack of providing server stability and good gaming experience.

WTB [proof]

Merlin13KAGL · July 2018

DeadlyPhoenix wrote: »

Regardless of the white knights that will inevitably come into this thread, ESO is dying and will die if ZOS continues with their current system. They have made a lot of people quit already with the horrible game performance going on for so long, before Summerset even.

Will they change? Maybe.

Will it be too late? Probably.

Yes, yes, and it has been since pre-Alpha, just search the forums for confirmation.

You don't have have to white knight. You don't have to go the blissful other extreme either though.

It's like saying McDonalds is dying because they don't have 4-star quality food.

All they need is new bodies. A constant stream of new people buying a little here and a little there would let them stay afloat for years to come.

Maybe not optimized, maybe not to the scale it could have been, maybe even only barely playable, but still enough to have just a little bit income.

Being a business, that's always going to be the ultimate goal.

FakeFox · July 2018

freestylertuningb16_ESO wrote: »

i realy wished ZoS would learn a thing or two from Arenanet (GW2) in regards to megaservers. EU side on GW2 i rarely have any lag issue's + they are able to patch/maintenance w/o taking servers down, while it may affect connectivity/increase lag a bit (unless a realy big patch they take down then), i just get a popup ingame saying there's a new build available and can finish w/e i'm doing and restart client at my leisure to download a new build

I think there are quite a few things they could learn from GW2. How to handle balancing patches for example.

Azyle1 · July 2018

I like ESO. I do not think it is perfect, but clearly they are doing something right as many people still play. I also do not think the game is dying at all. It seems to be doing well. Of course, people will blow things out of proportion to make it seem like doom and gloom. It isn't all that bad. Yes, there have been big issues, but it is part of the territory.

Game isn't "dying" like some think. That's just butthurt thinking.

ESO is fun to me... I also play GW2 and they are different enough that I do not get burned out of either .

Tito86 · July 2018

I'm not, are You?

Elwendryll · July 2018

I have been playing since Tamriel Unlimited, I'm ESO+. I'm satisfied of the game, and I couldn't see me playing without the benefits of the subscription.
I suggest playing other games from time to time, going outside, having a nice time with your friends and family, things like that, it only makes the time spent on ESO more enjoyable.

Gprime31 · July 2018

The combat is what keeps it alive... nothing else like it.....refuse to play tab target games. This is all we’ve got atm

DjinnAeternam · July 2018

Canceled my subscription some time ago, stopped buying stuff from crown store, and advise all players to do the same.

Already know some ppl that left because of game issues (broken mechanics, bugs, bots/exploiters, reports and feedbacks not having answers, nothing being addressed).

Personaly i am tired of this company attitude towards costumers.

ESO has potential, but ZOS is killing it.

If they want a community of players that only cares about mounts and shiny stuff from crates, i'm sure they will have it, but a lot of players will leave (its already happening now).

Slack · July 2018

Fun Fact : MMOs usually last longer than the doomsayers in it

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But in the End they are right ; Winter is always coming

Elsonso · July 2018

starkerealm wrote: »

Svenja wrote: »

I don't know what triggers the "missing textures" bug that seems to happen to a lot of people, quite a few of my guildmates have it happen a lot, I never experienced it myself though.

I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure it's a culling issue. The game only renders things you can see (with some exceptions, like the LoD ground mesh), to reduce load on your hardware. Something's bjorked under certain circumstances now so that the game becomes convinced you can't see anything. I suspect this is going to be a pretty short lived bug, overall.

This makes sense to me, and I think this is related to newly introduced performance enhancements.

freestylertuningb16_ESO wrote: »

i realy wished ZoS would learn a thing or two from Arenanet (GW2) in regards to megaservers. EU side on GW2 i rarely have any lag issue's + they are able to patch/maintenance w/o taking servers down, while it may affect connectivity/increase lag a bit (unless a realy big patch they take down then), i just get a popup ingame saying there's a new build available and can finish w/e i'm doing and restart client at my leisure to download a new build

Obviously, they did not set out to make a high availability game server, so a relatively large percentage of down time (2-4%, or more) should be expected. ZOS certainly could have architected the megaserver differently, but one has to ask whether the investment it is worth it. These things usually require a non-trivial amount of redundancy, and some special consideration on both the server and client sides. If the last four years have demonstrated anything, it is that ZOS runs things very lean.

Olen_Mikko wrote: »

We play this game, we give loads of money to ZOS, yet we get unplayable dungeons, poor server performance and customer service blaming us for their lack of providing server stability and good gaming experience.

We buy over-priced stuff they feed us through crown store. In return, we beg them to fix their stuff, yet zos decides to fix some typo of a quest no one cares about.

I admit, i am stupid and give them my money.
As much as i love elder scrolls franchise, i don't mind this game dying. Zos is incapable of fixing things.

I always tell people to spend money, or not, based on what they are getting out of the game. If they find the game enjoyable, then go ahead and spend the money. Or, don't. If they don't find the game enjoyable, then don't spend the money. Or, do. (I actually don't care what people do with their money)

I find the game performance to be acceptable. I experience some rough edges, and do I see where others are in a boatload of pain relative to me. Still, right now, I am enjoying the game, and I am paying for it.

The Crown Store is largely a disappointment, for me. I am not impressed by flashy mounts and the asking prices of store stuff usually does not match the value. I do not spend money on Crowns.

Is ESO dying? Probably not. If they don't fix their performance and connection issues, that will change.

inthecoconut · July 2018

Within my own little bubble, it is dying. That is the only context I have, and honestly the only one that matters to me. The number of bugs and glitches that prevent me from enjoying the game are both baffling and disheartening. I've enjoyed my time, I still have so much more I want to do, but it really put things into perspective for me when a friend asked if they should get ESO and I said no...

Olen_Mikko · July 2018

FakeFox wrote: »

freestylertuningb16_ESO wrote: »

i realy wished ZoS would learn a thing or two from Arenanet (GW2) in regards to megaservers. EU side on GW2 i rarely have any lag issue's + they are able to patch/maintenance w/o taking servers down, while it may affect connectivity/increase lag a bit (unless a realy big patch they take down then), i just get a popup ingame saying there's a new build available and can finish w/e i'm doing and restart client at my leisure to download a new build

I think there are quite a few things they could learn from GW2. How to handle balancing patches for example.

Yup. Played GW2 today, haven't played actively for year at least and still everything was fine. No balance issues or need to obtain better gear etc.