Suggestion for old JC MW's when update 19 moves onto live servers

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Please, give us something for the JC master writs we have earned since update 18 that will still be useless. Even if we just get 1 legendary grain for the legendary mws, and one epic grain for the epic mws. Or maybe a Survey map for each legendary... Just something that turns them into a reward like they were supposed to be.
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  • Aliyavana
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    Annoyed the change isn't retroactive
  • code65536
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    ZOS is, in effect, telling us to trash these original JC Master Writs. Perhaps I should donate them to @ZOS_RichLambert for a good cause instead?
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  • eso_nya
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    Would any of u be so kind to open the Master Crafters forgotten mail and check out (maybe even screenshot) some of the new jc writs? Im curious on how rewarding they r now and cant access pts myself atm.
  • Runs
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    eso_nya wrote: »
    Would any of u be so kind to open the Master Crafters forgotten mail and check out (maybe even screenshot) some of the new jc writs? Im curious on how rewarding they r now and cant access pts myself atm.

    The two that were included in mine were both old values low 100s for legend 8 or 9 for epic.

    I ran through writs on pts and got this...
    bhGb9sP.png?1


    A comparable epic 9trait item I have on live is for Mordulkin, requires bloodthirsty, and gives 9 vouchers. So essentially Epic voucher reward is being multiplied by 4. If that's all they are doing is bumping the vouchers 4x, then I guess JC masters will probably always be pointless. Better to sell the materials it takes to craft one, then buy a different craft's master writ, the materials it takes to craft them... Then you could have the same amount of vouchers, plus extra gold.

    -edit to add-

    10x the upgrade mats, should equal 10x the voucher reward. Anything less doesn't make economical sense to complete.

    -second edit to add, lol-

    Pay no attention to the cost... those numbers are bad it's about 40k in purple upgrade mats alone for that right now.
    Edited by Runs on July 10, 2018 5:42PM
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  • code65536
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    Runs wrote: »
    eso_nya wrote: »
    Would any of u be so kind to open the Master Crafters forgotten mail and check out (maybe even screenshot) some of the new jc writs? Im curious on how rewarding they r now and cant access pts myself atm.

    The two that were included in mine were both old values low 100s for legend 8 or 9 for epic.

    I ran through writs on pts and got this...
    bhGb9sP.png?1


    A comparable epic 9trait item I have on live is for Mordulkin, requires bloodthirsty, and gives 9 vouchers. So essentially Epic voucher reward is being multiplied by 4. If that's all they are doing is bumping the vouchers 4x, then I guess JC masters will probably always be pointless. Better to sell the materials it takes to craft one, then buy a different craft's master writ, the materials it takes to craft them... Then you could have the same amount of vouchers, plus extra gold.

    -edit to add-

    10x the upgrade mats, should equal 10x the voucher reward. Anything less doesn't make economical sense to complete.

    LOL. They require 10x the upgrade mats but only give 4x the vouchers? What a joke.
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  • Gythral
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    This needs looking at again as 4x is nothing like enough to get any done - they are still going into the bin at this cost vs reward

    They need to be in-line with other master writs, not a huge cash sink
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  • redspecter23
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    10 times the mats should be 10 times the vouchers.

    We can do the math, can you do the math, ZOS?
  • Mix
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    Yeah i have banked all the my JC Master Writs too...since they are really not worth doing. Maybe they should make them only require green or blue upgrade mats and scale by 10x so the cost per voucher is comparable.
  • disintegr8
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    I have 2 MW's worth 103 and 115 vouchers that will never get done.

    A platinum ring, legendary, Arcane trait, Varen's Legacy set - 103 vouchers.

    I might consider doing this if it was Epic, but not Legendary. I have refined 4k+ mats and still cannot make a single piece of gold improvement material.
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  • eso_nya
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    Runs wrote: »
    eso_nya wrote: »
    Would any of u be so kind to open the Master Crafters forgotten mail and check out (maybe even screenshot) some of the new jc writs? Im curious on how rewarding they r now and cant access pts myself atm.

    The two that were included in mine were both old values low 100s for legend 8 or 9 for epic.

    I ran through writs on pts and got this...
    bhGb9sP.png?1


    A comparable epic 9trait item I have on live is for Mordulkin, requires bloodthirsty, and gives 9 vouchers. So essentially Epic voucher reward is being multiplied by 4. If that's all they are doing is bumping the vouchers 4x, then I guess JC masters will probably always be pointless. Better to sell the materials it takes to craft one, then buy a different craft's master writ, the materials it takes to craft them... Then you could have the same amount of vouchers, plus extra gold.

    -edit to add-

    10x the upgrade mats, should equal 10x the voucher reward. Anything less doesn't make economical sense to complete.

    -second edit to add, lol-

    Pay no attention to the cost... those numbers are bad it's about 40k in purple upgrade mats alone for that right now.

    Ty fo checking :)

    Thats odd. On live i got:
    2018-06-18: epic robust necklace of ashen grip, 8 vouchers.
    2018-07-03: epic infused necklace of ashen grip, 23 vouchers.

    Edit: Just a few secs ago i got:
    epic protective necklace of clever alchemist, 9 vouchers.

    It doesnt look like the change actually made it into the patch. Or well, there already was a "hidden" x3 that is now x4. Prolly the one w/ 23 was somehow bugged? Is still in my bank and didnt change.
    Edited by eso_nya on July 11, 2018 4:32PM
  • Jayne_Doe
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    eso_nya wrote: »
    Runs wrote: »
    eso_nya wrote: »
    Would any of u be so kind to open the Master Crafters forgotten mail and check out (maybe even screenshot) some of the new jc writs? Im curious on how rewarding they r now and cant access pts myself atm.

    The two that were included in mine were both old values low 100s for legend 8 or 9 for epic.

    I ran through writs on pts and got this...
    bhGb9sP.png?1


    A comparable epic 9trait item I have on live is for Mordulkin, requires bloodthirsty, and gives 9 vouchers. So essentially Epic voucher reward is being multiplied by 4. If that's all they are doing is bumping the vouchers 4x, then I guess JC masters will probably always be pointless. Better to sell the materials it takes to craft one, then buy a different craft's master writ, the materials it takes to craft them... Then you could have the same amount of vouchers, plus extra gold.

    -edit to add-

    10x the upgrade mats, should equal 10x the voucher reward. Anything less doesn't make economical sense to complete.

    -second edit to add, lol-

    Pay no attention to the cost... those numbers are bad it's about 40k in purple upgrade mats alone for that right now.

    Ty fo checking :)

    Thats odd. On live i got:
    2018-06-18: epic robust necklace of ashen grip, 8 vouchers.
    2018-07-03: epic infused necklace of ashen grip, 23 vouchers.

    Edit: Just a few secs ago i got:
    epic protective necklace of clever alchemist, 9 vouchers.

    It doesnt look like the change actually made it into the patch. Or well, there already was a "hidden" x3 that is now x4. Prolly the one w/ 23 was somehow bugged? Is still in my bank and didnt change.

    This patch isn't live - it's on PTS right now, so no, you won't see any changes on live yet. I suspect the one for 23 was because of the trait? Though I see you also got protective that was only 9.

    ETA: Also, they said that current MWs will NOT be upgraded to new values. So, all the ones you've already gotten on live will remain the same value. Only the new ones received after the Update goes live will drop with increased values.
    Edited by Jayne_Doe on July 11, 2018 5:01PM
  • Runs
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    Jayne_Doe wrote: »
    eso_nya wrote: »
    Runs wrote: »
    eso_nya wrote: »
    Would any of u be so kind to open the Master Crafters forgotten mail and check out (maybe even screenshot) some of the new jc writs? Im curious on how rewarding they r now and cant access pts myself atm.

    The two that were included in mine were both old values low 100s for legend 8 or 9 for epic.

    I ran through writs on pts and got this...
    bhGb9sP.png?1


    A comparable epic 9trait item I have on live is for Mordulkin, requires bloodthirsty, and gives 9 vouchers. So essentially Epic voucher reward is being multiplied by 4. If that's all they are doing is bumping the vouchers 4x, then I guess JC masters will probably always be pointless. Better to sell the materials it takes to craft one, then buy a different craft's master writ, the materials it takes to craft them... Then you could have the same amount of vouchers, plus extra gold.

    -edit to add-

    10x the upgrade mats, should equal 10x the voucher reward. Anything less doesn't make economical sense to complete.

    -second edit to add, lol-

    Pay no attention to the cost... those numbers are bad it's about 40k in purple upgrade mats alone for that right now.

    Ty fo checking :)

    Thats odd. On live i got:
    2018-06-18: epic robust necklace of ashen grip, 8 vouchers.
    2018-07-03: epic infused necklace of ashen grip, 23 vouchers.

    Edit: Just a few secs ago i got:
    epic protective necklace of clever alchemist, 9 vouchers.

    It doesnt look like the change actually made it into the patch. Or well, there already was a "hidden" x3 that is now x4. Prolly the one w/ 23 was somehow bugged? Is still in my bank and didnt change.

    This patch isn't live - it's on PTS right now, so no, you won't see any changes on live yet. I suspect the one for 23 was because of the trait? Though I see you also got protective that was only 9.

    Infused on live has been high. I've wondered if someone goofed and gave that the numbers originally intended for swift.
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  • Nestor
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    Still see nothing about JMW that encourage me to do them. If I were to ever, and i stress ever, to obtain enough Tempers to fulfill a writ, I wont be wasting them on a JMW.

    If the Tempers worked like all the other crafting maybe. However, even 300 or 500 Vouchers is not going to get me to do a Jewelry Master writ the way things are now.

    Edited by Nestor on July 11, 2018 5:12PM
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  • TheCyberDruid
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    The whole idea about having to get 16000 raw mats to get 80 gold upgrade materials with the raw material being the least common one in the game to get 500 vouchers is just mind boggling. Whoever thought this is a fix might have looked at it the wrong way...
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