peterjameson wrote: »we paid for the game. the 5 days was not free. it was what we got extra for prepaying.
exactly...extra..therefore it was a bonus.
the early access is purely for marketing, to get people to pre order the game. There won't be a 5 day early access bonus tomorrow because it's already happened!
SilentVigil wrote: »peterjameson wrote: »we paid for the game. the 5 days was not free. it was what we got extra for prepaying.
exactly...extra..therefore it was a bonus.
the early access is purely for marketing, to get people to pre order the game. There won't be a 5 day early access bonus tomorrow because it's already happened!
We paid extra for something -not just a pre-order the game. It included various items including early access. It wasn't for free.
Getting a pet for participating in Beta would be what your thinking of. That would be a free bonus.
In your view then paying extra for early (quick) delivery for Pizza and then the delivery man showing up (not early) and saying sorry that was just a bonus that you would have gotten for free.
Actually, I'm right.
The pre-order bonus items were stuff given to you if you pre ordered the game. The act of pre ordering the game gave you these unique items, the same as being given free coupons if you buy 10 or more rolls of toilet paper. Can you get these items in game if you buy the game say next week? No, because they aren't included with the game.
peterjameson wrote: »we paid for the game. the 5 days was not free. it was what we got extra for prepaying.
exactly...extra..therefore it was a bonus.
the early access is purely for marketing, to get people to pre order the game. There won't be a 5 day early access bonus tomorrow because it's already happened!
Actually, I'm right.
The pre-order bonus items were stuff given to you if you pre ordered the game. The act of pre ordering the game gave you these unique items, the same as being given free coupons if you buy 10 or more rolls of toilet paper. Can you get these items in game if you buy the game say next week? No, because they aren't included with the game.
Actually you are wrong.
Those items included a 5 days early access as well.
All these were offered to make you pay in advance - helping the short term cashflow of the company and providing them assets to use until they have to start to provide services. Paying in advance is not a neutral stance, it's clearly beneficial to the receiver.
Yet they failed to deliver one part of the product - the 5 days early access.
You're still wrong.Actually you're wrong there.
Obviously the free 5 day early access and other pre order bonuses were just incentives to make people pre purchase the game. They were not included in the price. They were free bonuses to get people to pre order the game.
How exactly have they failed in delivering the 5 days early access free bonus? I know some people have had problems connecting, some haven't been able to play at all, but they won't get compensation, because those pre -order bonuses were free.
Note the word BONUS.DIGITAL PRE-PURCHASE BONUSES + EXPLORER'S PACK
5 DAYS EARLY GAME
ACCESS
For pre ordering the game (buying the game before release day) you were given a BONUS of 5 days early access, not included in the price. It's just a little BONUS for pre-ordering the game.
Stop complaining about something you got for free (5 days early access).
You are wrong in both your argument and in telling people what to do.
Actually, I'm right.
The pre-order bonus items were stuff given to you if you pre ordered the game. The act of pre ordering the game gave you these unique items, the same as being given free coupons if you buy 10 or more rolls of toilet paper. Can you get these items in game if you buy the game say next week? No, because they aren't included with the game.
RamzaBehoulve wrote: »peterjameson wrote: »we paid for the game. the 5 days was not free. it was what we got extra for prepaying.
exactly...extra..therefore it was a bonus.
the early access is purely for marketing, to get people to pre order the game. There won't be a 5 day early access bonus tomorrow because it's already happened!
You can slice it however you want, in Europe, that is not a bonus, nor an extra. It's called a purchase incentive and is an entire part of the deal.
Note the word BONUS.DIGITAL PRE-PURCHASE BONUSES + EXPLORER'S PACK
5 DAYS EARLY GAME
ACCESS
For pre ordering the game (buying the game before release day) you were given a BONUS of 5 days early access, not included in the price. It's just a little BONUS for pre-ordering the game.
Stop complaining about something you got for free (5 days early access).
Still wrong.Purchase incentive yes.
Zenimax: If you pre order the game you get free 5 days access and these items.
Customer: 5 days early access and free items if I pre order? I will pre order the game!
The 5 days early access and pets are not part of the final product. They are free bonuses.
Jadeviper1974 wrote: »Note the word BONUS.DIGITAL PRE-PURCHASE BONUSES + EXPLORER'S PACK
5 DAYS EARLY GAME
ACCESS
For pre ordering the game (buying the game before release day) you were given a BONUS of 5 days early access, not included in the price. It's just a little BONUS for pre-ordering the game.
Stop complaining about something you got for free (5 days early access).
You are wrong in both your argument and in telling people what to do.
Actually, I'm right.
The pre-order bonus items were stuff given to you if you pre ordered the game. The act of pre ordering the game gave you these unique items, the same as being given free coupons if you buy 10 or more rolls of toilet paper. Can you get these items in game if you buy the game say next week? No, because they aren't included with the game.
Yes, just like you can't get 5 days of early access if you buy the game next week. The simple fact of the matter is that they promised something in exchange for getting your money ahead of time, and then did not provide what they had promised. There is no getting around it, there is no explaining it away.
Still wrong.Purchase incentive yes.
Zenimax: If you pre order the game you get free 5 days access and these items.
Customer: 5 days early access and free items if I pre order? I will pre order the game!
The 5 days early access and pets are not part of the final product. They are free bonuses.
Your conclusion is not in any relation whatsoever of your Zenimax statement. You are right Zenimax did offer me items AND 5 days of early access AND the game if I pay in advance.
I did my part and paid in advance. They didn't deliver one of the offered items though. Just like buying a computer without a cable. No matter how small, they did break the agreement.
Note the word BONUS.DIGITAL PRE-PURCHASE BONUSES + EXPLORER'S PACK
5 DAYS EARLY GAME
ACCESS
For pre ordering the game (buying the game before release day) you were given a BONUS of 5 days early access, not included in the price. It's just a little BONUS for pre-ordering the game.
Stop complaining about something you got for free (5 days early access).
Early access is not beta, people paid for it, and you can't just shut down servers every day for bugfixing or patching.. I'm really disappointed.
Actually, I'm right.
The pre-order bonus items were stuff given to you if you pre ordered the game. The act of pre ordering the game gave you these unique items, the same as being given free coupons if you buy 10 or more rolls of toilet paper. Can you get these items in game if you buy the game say next week? No, because they aren't included with the game.
Actually you are wrong.
Those items included a 5 days early access as well.
All these were offered to make you pay in advance - helping the short term cashflow of the company and providing them assets to use until they have to start to provide services. Paying in advance is not a neutral stance, it's clearly beneficial to the receiver.
Yet they failed to deliver one part of the product - the 5 days early access.
Obviously the free 5 day early access and other pre order bonuses were just incentives to make people pre purchase the game. They were not included in the price. They were free bonuses to get people to pre order the game.
How exactly have they failed in delivering the 5 days early access free bonus? I know some people have had problems connecting, some haven't been able to play at all, but they won't get compensation, because those pre -order bonuses were free.