This is why YOU get kicked for being low CP or bad at DPS/Heals/Tank

President_PUG · July 2018

I got My name from group people MY VERY FIRST Vet Trial think it was Maw Lockjaw, here come Paw. I sucked so bad. I don't have vocal chords but was using Discord to follow the leader's knowledge and suggestions. It was an OVERwhelming experience, to say the least. I was 200cp My 5th-month playing, I was trying to watch The Battle, the first mistake, shoulda been Fighting. Realized My paper theory build while looking on good paper, wasn't worth crap. I know there are many builds and suggestions out there, I wanted to see what they meant by That build won't work in here. Maybe someone could make videos of what a crap build is missing, so many videos on What does work. Long story short 75% of The Group got what they
were hoping to find that day. The Leader said, This The Best PUG ever. So when I made the first forum post I remembered the day I got 2 undaunted Keys, the Helmet drop from Boss...and the first Key gave Me The Shoulders. But what I got was a very well Led group, some good-natured joshing. And some intense Fun for what was to me over way too soon at an Hour Half lol.
I cant remember Who those people were but Thank You. I am 60 my finger and reflex just can't keep pace with some game content so I don't do the parts that require Me to play bad and make others have bad exp time. ESO is so different there is enough content to keep Me happy doing what I do. The only suggestion I could offer, Make Commitment to a select group of people to do trails same time you play. The game could require A Tank To be able to Pass a Solo Test for that Trail, A Healer to be able to pass a solo test, doing what a Healer needs to do in same amount time, and a DPS can only register as DPS, if It can DPS on a Solo run That same Trial. That's all got. Except for that Helmet and Shoulder reward same day? A Healer set and I'm DPS, You know I tried to make that thing work for Me for so long. I wound up pissing people like The OP, not on Purpose ..but How could I explain This only Stuff I got.. what You mean my build sucks? If the game would only RNG the stuff character could actually use, woulda saved lot people angry Energy toward PUG.S.

Xuhora · July 2018

Guppet wrote: »

adriant1978 wrote: »

adeptusminor wrote: »

adriant1978 wrote: »

adeptusminor wrote: »

adriant1978 wrote: »

ItsNebula wrote: »

30k This patch is literally throwing down AOEs, DOTs and using your spamable and popping ult when ready.

No, no it isn't.

It really is. This was with just light attacks+spammable/trap/merciless resolve and execute. Not even using any AOEs, DoTs or ults

Now do it without Zaan and Siroria. The assertion was that 30k needed just DoTs, AoE, and spammable. No mention of trials gear or proc sets.

It’s without food and no eledrain (a true pug experience )Zaans is about 3k of that 33k parse. The difference between sioria and a crafted set like Julianos isn’t some massive difference that’s going to add 20k to the 10k dps people are talking about here. The op is correct, in Summerset a lot of classes can now hit 30k with just Light attacks, aoes/dots, and ults.

I never said that your DPS would be 10k without those sets, but I think it wouldn't be 30k either.

Challenge is still open to anyone who wants to post a 30k parse from just "literally throwing down AOEs, DOTs and using your spammable and popping ult when ready" with no Minor Slayer, endgame proc set, etc.

If you people want us who struggle to get near 30k to feel like *** then you need to show that it really is possible with skill alone.

I think as it’s a non meta player your trying to simulate you probably need more criteria.

Blue sets only.
No monster sets (they require vet completion, even then the weight and perks are random, so they won’t have the optimised ones most here will)
No potions.
Sets that are available from non dlc dungeons or craftable with 5 or fewer traits.

It’s easy to forget just how optimised you can be in this game.

Heck I’d even suggest, dare I say it, no animation cancelling.

These are all the edges you have over people who take the game less serious.

If you break mid 20k dps I’d be shocked.

...and do it without hotkeys, so you have to press abilities with the mouse
...oh and turn off the monitor
...while you are at it, disconnect the mouse as well
...

NO! i mean alrighty, if you want to play the game like that i dont judge you, everyone can play how he wants and what is fun to him, but then be honest about it and stick with your guns, dont PUG vet.. that kind of playstile allows you to do overland..

you cant play in a footballteam if you actually want to play with a tennisracket
you cant get a driver license if you actually want to steer a bycicle with trainingwheels
you cant get a job as policeofficer if you actually want to shout at people the whole day beeing angry as heck... Well damn, okay, you can, BUT IT MAKES PEOPLE THINKING YOU ARE A TOTAL ***!

Asardes · July 2018

My solution is to queue as tank in full DD setup with Inner Rage slotted on most characters and just do the normal DD rotation with occasional block casting. I queue as all 3 roles on Templar because she has heals (Ritual of Retribution, Purifying Light) and support skills (Elemental Drain, Blazing Spear, Blockade of Storms) as part of the normal, self buffed rotation. All my chars have that kind of setup (with all buffs, debuffs, heal, sustain) on by default, less the taunt.

My DPS is around 60% of group total but I've got as high as 85%. Had I been a proper tank or healer the dungeon would have taken hours. So it's useless to bring Ebon&Torug/Alkosh Tank or SPC/Olorime&IA/Mending/Worm/Twilight/Jorvuld healer there because 5K buffed is maybe 5.5K. If i can pull 30-35K myself while holding aggro and even healing at the same time that will be a terrible waste.

I even managed to carry in DLC dungeons, unless people managed to mess up the mechanics badly. Ex. I gave up on a group in nFH because the tank kept absorbing the ghosts from the adds of the skeleton boss, but not dropping them in the circles to spawn the boss, so they kept resetting. I explained the mechanic and jumped towards the circles but the *** kept ignoring me. None of them bothered answering in group chat. Such people fully deserve to get kicked of groups. I bet some of them come and whine here on the forums afterwards claiming the big bad "elitists" persecute them claiming they were kicked for being low CP, instead of acting dumb.

The only time I got voted out of a group was once while farming nDC1 for Automaton because others wanted to experience the dungeon story at their pace and I was blazing trough the dungeon in under 10m.

Guppet · July 2018

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Guppet wrote: »

adriant1978 wrote: »

adeptusminor wrote: »

adriant1978 wrote: »

adeptusminor wrote: »

adriant1978 wrote: »

ItsNebula wrote: »

30k This patch is literally throwing down AOEs, DOTs and using your spamable and popping ult when ready.

No, no it isn't.

It really is. This was with just light attacks+spammable/trap/merciless resolve and execute. Not even using any AOEs, DoTs or ults

Now do it without Zaan and Siroria. The assertion was that 30k needed just DoTs, AoE, and spammable. No mention of trials gear or proc sets.

It’s without food and no eledrain (a true pug experience )Zaans is about 3k of that 33k parse. The difference between sioria and a crafted set like Julianos isn’t some massive difference that’s going to add 20k to the 10k dps people are talking about here. The op is correct, in Summerset a lot of classes can now hit 30k with just Light attacks, aoes/dots, and ults.

I never said that your DPS would be 10k without those sets, but I think it wouldn't be 30k either.

Challenge is still open to anyone who wants to post a 30k parse from just "literally throwing down AOEs, DOTs and using your spammable and popping ult when ready" with no Minor Slayer, endgame proc set, etc.

If you people want us who struggle to get near 30k to feel like *** then you need to show that it really is possible with skill alone.

I think as it’s a non meta player your trying to simulate you probably need more criteria.

Blue sets only.
No monster sets (they require vet completion, even then the weight and perks are random, so they won’t have the optimised ones most here will)
No potions.
Sets that are available from non dlc dungeons or craftable with 5 or fewer traits.

It’s easy to forget just how optimised you can be in this game.

Heck I’d even suggest, dare I say it, no animation cancelling.

These are all the edges you have over people who take the game less serious.

If you break mid 20k dps I’d be shocked.

If you want to do group content, you need to make an effort to be prepared for that content.

There is no excuse for not having optimized potions or food. That has nothing to do with skill. Google a potion/food list and make them.

Getting all your gear to purple quality isn't a question of skill either. It's just a few thousand gold.

If you don't want to put in the bare minimum effort, then stick to overland content. It's that simple.

See here’s the issue, us on the forums say you need to make a minimum effort.

The game doesn’t say that. Only people who visit the forums see this. That’s not even the target audience for the ops rant.

I’d say minimum should be using food and 2 matched sets. Then on top of that they should have AOE (nothing more irritating than single target damage spammers when you’ve herded up all the mobs).

Also no HP’s over 22k (the number of dps with 30k plus health on PS4 is shocking).

Even my much more lenient criteria is a fruitless wish.

I think this game allows too much optimisation, to the point when the difference between fully optimised and casual is far too large. I know that won’t be popular.

Food alone gives a far bigger boost than all the stat points you get levelling up. How is that even a thing. So many players don’t even understand just how much impact food has.

Potions can give you limitless sustain. The ones you get in the open world don’t exactly do much to make average joe aware of what they can become. So why would he invest in making his own.

There are so many layers in this game. Now I love complex, but the game does precious little to educate the average joe about just how much better they can become.

Even though they regularly redo the starting experience, I can’t say I’ve noticed the animation cancelling part of it yet.

Asardes · July 2018

Kadoin wrote: »

I don't kick low CP players, but I know exactly what you mean. Don't get me started on the "DPS" using SnB when I'M the tank messing up aggro, the "healers" using only class heal and then crying "no magicka," DPS with 0 DoTs and 0 AoEs...and some of these guys are CP 750! You literally have to see it to believe it. I honestly go to group finder for laughs these days, but I'm not disappointed when there is nothing to laugh at and things go without problems.

I've seen CP750 players struggling to kill overland mobs in Summerset. And quite a few of them. I mean those die from LA->any skill but they fought them for 10-20s. When they come at a geyser or world boss they get rekt so hard. I've seen the poison turtle wipe the whole group of 7-8 players and reset. DLC areas seem to be where the bads congregate in much higher numbers than usual

GarnetFire17 · July 2018

PUGing vet dungoens are not for the impatient. Wipes are to be expected. Trying to get people to tweak things are to be expected. Politely telling people they don't have enough damage as DPS or enough health as tank to be able to win certain fights is expected. Eventually they will stop beating their head against the wall, take the hint that they must first git gud and leave on their own. I am sorry but it you are PUGing bc you want to farm for something then you know you are rolling the dice just like so much of this game is based. It's best to find a group yourself. At least send friend requests to the good players you meet in the PUGs.

Sparr0w · July 2018

GarnetFire17 wrote: »

PUGing vet dungoens are not for the impatient. Wipes are to be expected. Trying to get people to tweak things are to be expected. Politely telling people they don't have enough damage as DPS or enough health as tank to be able to win certain fights is expected. Eventually they will stop beating their head against the wall, take the hint that they must first git gud and leave on their own. I am sorry but it you are PUGing bc you want to farm for something then you know you are rolling the dice just like so much of this game is based. It's best to find a group yourself. At least send friend requests to the good players you meet in the PUGs.

What's health matter as a tank? As long as it's not sub 20/25k...

Jaimeh · July 2018

It can be frustrating to PUG a dungeon for a pledge, and having it taking ages, but that's the risk of using the group finder. I PUG a lot, but if I do it on a healer/tank toon, I'm prepared to slot some dps skills and do damage if the group dps is low, and it usually works OK. I find that it's not the slow dps that determines success or failure, but following mechanics: if a player dies to one-shot moves that have to be avoided, or doesn't do mechanic-related tasks that move a boss encounter along, that can drag out a fight more that than having slow dps.

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO · July 2018

Can I just say, since they made the vet dlc dungeons require 300+ cp, my completion rate for those has went from like 25% to at least 90%. So that is an improvement.

Asardes · July 2018

On Magicka characters I almost never use Spell Power potions because I can get fully sustained, self buffed (Power Surge, Degeneration, Molten Armaments) rotations that hit 30K-35K without even consuming the dropped potions I carry. On stamina characters, less Sorcerer and Warden, that can get Major Brutality from easy to use skills with added benefits (Critical Surge, Bull Netch) I go 2H and buff with Rally, shield with Brawler, execute with Reverse Slice. Only for trials do I bother using Weapon Power potions, going 2W and dropping the heals for maximum DPS. I have neither Relequen or Siroria - all pieces I've gotten of imperfect I've either given away for free to guild mates or deconstructed.

I can clear vMA for 480K+ on any of those builds, even if I rarely go in there nowadays. I was surprised to go in with my Magicka DK and score 506K 10/15 last week despite being my first clear on that char and only my 2nd in the last 8 months; the previous one had been a Stamina Warden 1st clear for about 485K in February.

As for DPS any decent combo of crafted and dropped gear, either overland drop or in easy dungeons can get the job done. Ex. 3 Wilpower (jewels) 4 Torug's Pact (head, shoulder, staves) 5 Julianos (the rest of the armor) on magicka or 3 Agility (jewels) 4 NMG (head, shoulder, daggers or greatsword & bow) 5 Hunding's Rage - or 5 NMG 4 Hunding if class lacks Major Fracture (Sorc, Templar) on stamina will give pretty decent stats to anyone who has just hit CP160, to enable him to farm better gear. Also if you hit youtube or google with "ESO stamina/magicka class build" will open hundreds of guides. All it takes to get it is ask in guild or even zone chat "LF set crafter" and you'll be geared up in no time.

So there's literally no excuse for spamming random skills with random gear on, and then curse people who try to offer some polite advice along the way. I can't count the number of times I was berated by people in random groups I had just carried trough dungeons. From my experience the toxicity comes not from "elitists" but from the entitled scrubs who expect to be carried and then behave like they own the damned game.

ResTandRespeC · July 2018

The one thing that I can say as an experienced player is to know your limits. I know that my dps is high enough and i know the mechanics well enough to do certain content pulling most of the weight if need be. That's why i don't usually que for vet dlc's, number 2 of certain dungeons that require special mechanics to be followed by everyone in order to get 2 keys, etc. Unless i specifically want to role the dice. I can definitely see why its frustrating on both sides though, and the game does little to remedy these issues.
Setting my own rules based on my limits and my expectations truly is the best bet. Thats why some solely pug and others only run with guilds yet generally are the ones to say they dont see a problem with the system.

Ghanima_Atreides · July 2018

To everyone who says it's very easy to get 30K DPS just using your spammable and DOTs...well this is my parse, using everything I've got. Gear's all purple, divines.

I realise I'm probably going to be called a "bad" or whatnot, but this is the very best I can do, and I wanted to speak up for those of us who insist that it's not as simple as spamming a few abilities in order to get high DPS numbers.

If anyone has any suggestions for how I could improve this (aside from getting BiS gear, because I cannot with these numbers), I'd welcome them.

starkerealm · July 2018

Ghanima_Atreides wrote: »

To everyone who says it's very easy to get 30K DPS just using your spammable and DOTs...well this is my parse, using everything I've got. Gear's all purple, divines.

I realise I'm probably going to be called a "bad" or whatnot, but this is the very best I can do, and I wanted to speak up for those of us who insist that it's not as simple as spamming a few abilities in order to get high DPS numbers.

If anyone has any suggestions for how I could improve this (aside from getting BiS gear, because I cannot with these numbers), I'd welcome them.

I'd need to actually see you doing your rotation. Either in video or in person. Off hand, it could be weave timing, or just the overall tempo of your gameplay.

Ghanima_Atreides · July 2018

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starkerealm wrote: »

I'd need to actually see you doing your rotation. Either in video or in person. Off hand, it could be weave timing, or just the overall tempo of your gameplay.

It is likely tempo, and the fact that I don't weave after *every* skill, but that's kind of the point...it takes more than casually spamming a few abilities to get good DPS, and although it probably feels like second nature and very simple to top players, for the rest of us it's far from that easy. It's not only a matter of people being lazy or completely ignorant of mechanics.

Chrysa1is · July 2018

Smasherx74 wrote: »

When I'm the person of all people saying this, you know there's a problem.

"when im the person"

Not being funny mate, but i dont even have a clue who the hell you even are.

edit* No offence

starkerealm · July 2018

Ghanima_Atreides wrote: »

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starkerealm wrote: »

I'd need to actually see you doing your rotation. Either in video or in person. Off hand, it could be weave timing, or just the overall tempo of your gameplay.

It is likely tempo, and the fact that I don't weave after *every* skill, but that's kind of the point...it takes more than casually spamming a few abilities to get good DPS, and although it probably feels like second nature and very simple to top players, for the rest of us it's far from that easy. It's not only a matter of people being lazy or completely ignorant of mechanics.

Well, ya got me.

If you want to improve, the short answer is to simply practice your rotation, and try to get your timing down. But, you probably already knew that. Also, minor mental tic, but you weave before every skill. Not after.

Chaos2088 · July 2018

Someone has been taking angry pills...

It is frustrating yes, I am with you, I play DPS, Healer and Tank, so seen it from all sides myself.

But.....

You can never judge people by the actions of others. Pre-judging someone before they have a chance to prove themselves is just bad sport.

(Sorry for sounding very British)

(Sorry for being Sorry)

Ghanima_Atreides · July 2018

starkerealm wrote: »

If you want to improve, the short answer is to simply practice your rotation, and try to get your timing down. But, you probably already knew that. Also, minor mental tic, but you weave before every skill. Not after.

Yes, you're right about that. Before. Either way, I don't do it every time, because it usually fails to fire off and it slows down my rotation down even more. I can only reliably do it with Force Pulse and Crystal Shard.

Believe it or not, I have practised quite a lot. This is one of the very best results I've ever got. Guess I'll practise some more and maybe one day I'll at least hit 20K.

Merlin13KAGL · July 2018

I think a lot of people in this thread are confused as to what RDF is for.

I've been in some bad groups, some bad groups. But if you have even half of the expectations listed in this thread, RDF is not for you.

You clearly don't the assistance.
You probably don't need the bonus XP.
You don't need the RDF buff.
Pretty damn sure you don't need another Restoration staff of Endurance or Battle Axe of Willpower.

Make a premade, or simply port directly in. (Call it a hunch that you have it unlocked on the world map.)

RDF is a quick way to get grouped with random people, that have at least a 50% chance of not being as 'skilled' as you. (I quote this, because it applies if it's legitimate skill, or just perception.)

Again, first mob pull/first boss pull tells you everything you need to know. If a reasonable clear isn't in the forseeable future, just stop there. Man up, say why in chat (respectfully), and just stop.

Or if there's potential, maybe not to the tier you'd hope for, but potential, maybe, just maybe, offer some advice to help your new-just-like-you-were-one-time group members get better?

If you have any expectations beyond a reasonable clear, don't use RDF, because you clearly don't need to.

Grabmoore · July 2018

Ghanima_Atreides wrote: »

To everyone who says it's very easy to get 30K DPS just using your spammable and DOTs...well this is my parse, using everything I've got. Gear's all purple, divines.

I realise I'm probably going to be called a "bad" or whatnot, but this is the very best I can do, and I wanted to speak up for those of us who insist that it's not as simple as spamming a few abilities in order to get high DPS numbers.

If anyone has any suggestions for how I could improve this (aside from getting BiS gear, because I cannot with these numbers), I'd welcome them.

You have the wrong mundus, you use heavy attacks, potentially no monster set, maybe not setting elemental drain yourself, your stats indicate you are not using the proper sets at all, you make way to many force pulses and your uptime on your dots is bad.

Wall should never be so low. You might want to grind psijic line for the elemental weapon. This should help your sustain. Also, you are missing a few cp. those should not result in that much of a loss. I imagine you seldomly run in good groups, so the lover or even antronarch should be better mundus Stones for you. If you don't have access to trial gear and don't want to farm normal cloudrest for Siroria, just wear 5 julianos + mothers sorrow with 2x ilambris. 1 vma Inferno on backbar, if you have it.

You can do it.

Edit: Start using good pots. You use Surge with a low uptime. You want to have major sorcery up all the time, so essence of spellpower help.

Ghanima_Atreides · July 2018

Grabmoore wrote: »

You have the wrong mundus, you use heavy attacks, potentially no monster set, maybe not setting elemental drain yourself, your stats indicate you are not using the proper sets at all, you make way to many force pulses and your uptime on your dots is bad.

Wall should never be so low. You might want to grind psijic line for the elemental weapon. This should help your sustain. Also, you are missing a few cp. those should not result in that much of a loss. I imagine you seldomly run in good groups, so the lover or even antronarch should be better mundus Stones for you. If you don't have access to trial gear and don't want to farm normal cloudrest for Siroria, just wear 5 julianos + mothers sorrow with 2x ilambris. 1 vma Inferno on backbar, if you have it.

You can do it.

I don't group at all, because I know it's not going to go well for me. So no, I don't have any monster sets. Needless to say vMA is out of the question.

The only group dungeons I've done are the basegame ones on Normal, with my boyfriend. I even soloed a few (

)

I didn't use elemental drain either, because I was trying to show people who claim 30K DPS is attainable with just spammable and DOTs that it isn't for everyone.

I also admitted one of my biggest issue was tempo. This is simply the best I can do, at the moment. I can't fire skills off any faster.

I chose the Mage because I was trying to stack magicka, although Atronach is of course a possibility. Heavy attacks were used because I was out of magicka; it was either that or fail to complete the parse.

JumpmanLane · July 2018

FrancisCrawford wrote: »

JumpmanLane wrote: »

Never do dungeons with strangers. Only let a pug in if just to fill out the queue then vote and kick the extra immediately. Life will be simpler.

Are you serious?

Yup. Do it every time.

Pixel_Zealot · July 2018

Couldn't agree more. Made a tank and healer shortly and it's terrible.

I cannot even. Had a lvl40 something tank run around with 10-15k health. Tried telling him he needs to food up, was met with "STFU LOL. IKNUWWHUTUMDUIN".

Was running on my tank, my pug healer was rocking an ice staff. As one does. The only thing healing in that dungeon was me.

Pugs really are horrible, and I strongly believe the group finder needs to be stricter. You can't just add one taunt ability to your back bar and call yourself tank with 10k health running a nDLC. Unfortunately, the group finder is designed to make these experiences with random players terrible.

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO · July 2018

Ghanima_Atreides wrote: »

Grabmoore wrote: »

You have the wrong mundus, you use heavy attacks, potentially no monster set, maybe not setting elemental drain yourself, your stats indicate you are not using the proper sets at all, you make way to many force pulses and your uptime on your dots is bad.

Wall should never be so low. You might want to grind psijic line for the elemental weapon. This should help your sustain. Also, you are missing a few cp. those should not result in that much of a loss. I imagine you seldomly run in good groups, so the lover or even antronarch should be better mundus Stones for you. If you don't have access to trial gear and don't want to farm normal cloudrest for Siroria, just wear 5 julianos + mothers sorrow with 2x ilambris. 1 vma Inferno on backbar, if you have it.

You can do it.

I don't group at all, because I know it's not going to go well for me. So no, I don't have any monster sets. Needless to say vMA is out of the question.

The only group dungeons I've done are the basegame ones on Normal, with my boyfriend. I even soloed a few ( )

I didn't use elemental drain either, because I was trying to show people who claim 30K DPS is attainable with just spammable and DOTs that it isn't for everyone.

I also admitted one of my biggest issue was tempo. This is simply the best I can do, at the moment. I can't fire skills off any faster.

I chose the Mage because I was trying to stack magicka, although Atronach is of course a possibility. Heavy attacks were used because I was out of magicka; it was either that or fail to complete the parse.

I hate to be an armchair quarter back like everyone else in this thread but Try a pet build. So much easier then a force pulse build. And gold out your weapons, that is 5% DPS increase right there and staffs are cheap to upgrade.

And out of curiosity, what sets are you wearing?

JumpmanLane · July 2018

TheDarkShadow wrote: »

People wonder why no tank queue in group finder. This is the reason.

I did a Wayrest Sewers the other day on dps doing 80% damage the whole dungeon while trying to avoid boss aggro because tank keep losing it and rezzing people because they keep dying by mechanics. I patiently carried them the whole way, not say a word. At the end, I said, word by word: "You guys should not queue for vet dungeon, seriously.", with hope they will understand that they are not ready for vet and not doom another random group. And immediately getting called names *roll eyes*. I just leave without saying anything back because I got what I wanted and it's not worth argue with those people.

As a dps and in an easier dungeon, I can carry those people. It will be a lots slower but whatever, I just keep my mouth shut biting the bullet and do it for the transmute crystals. But if it was a vet DLC or I was a tank, then I'll vote kick or leave. It's not elistist, it's knowing your limit. There is no way I can carry those people through and it's just a waste of time to keep wiping over and over.

Transmute crystals? You’re making that up lol.

Ghanima_Atreides · July 2018

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

Try a pet build. So much easier then a force pulse build. And gold out your weapons, that is 5% DPS increase right there and staffs are cheap to upgrade.

I'm sorry, I absolutely hate pet builds.

I tried one once, and it was even worse.
Gold staves though, I can do. I actually have them for another character, but she's not a magicka race and her sustain is absolutely atrocious.

What_In_Tarnation · July 2018

If they play bad, just kick them. If the vote kick didn't pass. Just leave and let next healer deal with that swamp.

Seri · July 2018

Grabmoore wrote: »

Ghanima_Atreides wrote: »

To everyone who says it's very easy to get 30K DPS just using your spammable and DOTs...well this is my parse, using everything I've got. Gear's all purple, divines.

I realise I'm probably going to be called a "bad" or whatnot, but this is the very best I can do, and I wanted to speak up for those of us who insist that it's not as simple as spamming a few abilities in order to get high DPS numbers.

If anyone has any suggestions for how I could improve this (aside from getting BiS gear, because I cannot with these numbers), I'd welcome them.

You have the wrong mundus, you use heavy attacks, potentially no monster set, maybe not setting elemental drain yourself, your stats indicate you are not using the proper sets at all, you make way to many force pulses and your uptime on your dots is bad.

Wall should never be so low. You might want to grind psijic line for the elemental weapon. This should help your sustain. Also, you are missing a few cp. those should not result in that much of a loss. I imagine you seldomly run in good groups, so the lover or even antronarch should be better mundus Stones for you. If you don't have access to trial gear and don't want to farm normal cloudrest for Siroria, just wear 5 julianos + mothers sorrow with 2x ilambris. 1 vma Inferno on backbar, if you have it.

You can do it.

Edit: Start using good pots. You use Surge with a low uptime. You want to have major sorcery up all the time, so essence of spellpower help.

No Major Intellect, so not sure there was any pots used? I'd be genuinely interested to see the difference using pots (essence of spellpower or even the trash magicka ones to help with sustain), ensuring major sorcery is up all the time, and slotting elemental drain (either self or having someone apply it). Then after that, we could talk about _which_ sets are being used, and if the front-bar weapon is gold-tier (weapons are noticable, armor doesn't matter if it's purple except for maybe trial score-pushing).

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO · July 2018

Ghanima_Atreides wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

Try a pet build. So much easier then a force pulse build. And gold out your weapons, that is 5% DPS increase right there and staffs are cheap to upgrade.

I'm sorry, I absolutely hate pet builds. I tried one once, and it was even worse.
Gold staves though, I can do. I actually have them for another character, but she's not a magicka race and her sustain is absolutely atrocious.

Not sure what you mean by hate in this sentence, could you clarify what you mean? And what sets are you wearing and what enchantments do you have on your jewelry? I mean you say you have soloed some norm dungeons and that is neat. You have fun playing? That is what is important.

Asardes · July 2018

Weaving is 5-6K DPS extra on every class but NB where it counts for spectral bow casts. So it won't ever make a 10-15K DPS into a 30K+ one. The problem is most likely not keeping buffs and DoTs up. Also overcasting those skills is detrimental since it will drain your resource pool faster and not allow you to sustain the rotation for a long time. Also the build can have other problems, like low stats (<3K spell damage and <40K magicka) which means the skill scaling will be low.