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Master Jewelcrafting Writs Are Not Worth Doing
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Apache_Kid✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Apache_Kid wrote: »Idk if you realize this but we paid real world dollars for access to jewelry crafting and our biggest reward is absolutely useless except for my character's to wipe their ass with.
you got issues if this is your 'biggest reward'. in game gold cost is also set by players. why not blame their greed for high prices? is that not melodramatic enough or something?
Lmfao prices are driven by Zos because they created the 10x upgrade cost and made no hirelings and no gold mats from writs. If jewel crafting was designed differently prices wouldnt be so high.6 -
Varana✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭How much gold and purple grains do you get from doing max level jewlery crafting writs?
the tempers is the main benefit of doing writs in my experience, you have an decent chance of getting some.
Very few if any. I got all my gold grains from refining, not a single one from writs. The main reason to do JC writs, imho, is to get surveys which will net you a lot of materials to refine and get grains. (And for that, you can do pewter writs and even get most of your materials refunded.) In my experience, that works way faster than waiting for golden grains to drop from a writ.0 -
Jaraal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »Elsterchen wrote: »Since i just uploaded it ...
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Wow I just can’t with J.C. this is a new level lazy no one looked at this?
Probably a part time crafting dev intern, and six full time crown store/monetization devs.3 -
disintegr8✭✭✭✭✭
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I agree, you don't need to do max level jewelry writs. 13 of my 14 characters are doing level 1 writs, giving me heaps of surveys and loads of platinum (when collected on my max level jewelry crafter).How much gold and purple grains do you get from doing max level jewlery crafting writs?
the tempers is the main benefit of doing writs in my experience, you have an decent chance of getting some.
Very few if any. I got all my gold grains from refining, not a single one from writs. The main reason to do JC writs, imho, is to get surveys which will net you a lot of materials to refine and get grains. (And for that, you can do pewter writs and even get most of your materials refunded.) In my experience, that works way faster than waiting for golden grains to drop from a writ.
The drop rate of improvement materials from refining is pretty abysmal but at least my characters are getting some JC leveling out of it as well.Australian on PS4 NA server.
Everyone's entitled to an opinion.0 -
Maryal✭✭✭✭✭
✭What I have to say is pretty much what other's have already said ... trying to farm upgrade materials for purple and gold suck up more time than they are worth (farming jewlery to decon / farming ores to refine). To make matters worse, the material needed to make jewelry of (whatever) trait (except for stamina, magica, or health) is just as bad, if not worse. I'd rather spend my farming time trying to get motif pages in Summerset than deal with jewlery crafting materials.
I do save my jewelry crafting master writs (well, master writ (singular)) ... maybe in a year or two I'll have enough matts to complete it.Edited by Maryal on July 3, 2018 11:03PM2 -
Thrasher91604✭✭✭✭✭I just destroy them. I don't have space for stuff that may become valuable in a few months.
Have yet to get a swift ring yet though...Edited by Thrasher91604 on July 3, 2018 11:42PM0 -
BlueRaven✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I really think the JC profession in general needs a major rethink on ZOS's part.3 -
Mystrius_Archaion✭✭✭✭✭
✭Elsterchen wrote: »Since i just uploaded it ...
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WOW!
It requires, through the only way to get it, a mat for 20 vouchers to regain 10 for a net loss of 10!
/bravo /golfclap Way to go ZOS, shafting us hard!Edited by Mystrius_Archaion on July 4, 2018 1:10AM3 -
redspecter23✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Thrasher91604 wrote: »Not thought through very well apparently...
At this point they've had another 2 months to give it additional thought. How much thought does it take to realize these master writs are broken?3 -
Thrasher91604✭✭✭✭✭Missed opportunity or they don't give a ***.Edited by Thrasher91604 on July 4, 2018 1:04AM4
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Mystrius_Archaion✭✭✭✭✭
✭Apache_Kid wrote: »starkerealm wrote: »Apache_Kid wrote: »Recall that Psijic Ambrosia master writs used to return 10 vouchers for 8 psijic ambrosias.
The same for Ozgars Bear Haunch.
Zos just raised the voucher level to 40 vouchers for these two provisioning writs, but if you had an old writ the return was still 10 vouchers. I know, because I had one in stock.
So, my guess is that your old writs will keep the same voucher value when/if zos raises the return on Jewelry master writs.
For now I'm going to destroy my JC master writs, like I do the writs that require Hakeijo, since they are not worth the cost of doing and not worth holding since their value (in vouchers) will not increase.
The fact that we went through all of this with the roe writs and that we now have this issue with jewel writs is pretty astounding when you think about it.
I'm not sure when the Roe writs changed, but it's fairly recent. The 10 voucher versions were still dropping during the Anniversary Event.
That' irrelevant. There were threads about the roe writ issue months before they fixed it.
They knew about under-valued master writs being an issue well-before the master jewelry crafting writs were introduced. Its unacceptable that they were allowed to go live like this.
We told them on PTS that the jewelry master writs will need to reward about 400 vouchers to be worthwhile based on the 10x upgrade mats needed mess, but they didn't listen from the first week.Edited by Mystrius_Archaion on July 4, 2018 1:45AM0 -
Thrasher91604✭✭✭✭✭And no responses in this thread either. I guess they don't care. Ask for a refund then.1
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redspecter23✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Thrasher91604 wrote: »And no responses in this thread either. I guess they don't care. Ask for a refund then.
No responses in any thread regarding jewelcrafting at all. It makes you wonder what's going on at ZOS where this is such a problematic thing to talk about.1 -
Mystrius_Archaion✭✭✭✭✭
✭Not sure how many threads need to be created on the same subject. A simple google search will bring up a few already created, but I will help out here.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/421148/jewelry-crafting-master-writs-are-worthless
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/417863/are-jewelry-master-writs-worth-ithttps://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/416376/whats-with-the-jewelry-master-writs
At least one of those has a shiny poll.
Edit: BTW, that is not all of them.
And yet, none of them have a response from ZOS. Hmm...
I will never look at a lightbulb the same again.
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Mystrius_Archaion✭✭✭✭✭
✭DaveMoeDee wrote: »Apache_Kid wrote: »starkerealm wrote: »Apache_Kid wrote: »Recall that Psijic Ambrosia master writs used to return 10 vouchers for 8 psijic ambrosias.
The same for Ozgars Bear Haunch.
Zos just raised the voucher level to 40 vouchers for these two provisioning writs, but if you had an old writ the return was still 10 vouchers. I know, because I had one in stock.
So, my guess is that your old writs will keep the same voucher value when/if zos raises the return on Jewelry master writs.
For now I'm going to destroy my JC master writs, like I do the writs that require Hakeijo, since they are not worth the cost of doing and not worth holding since their value (in vouchers) will not increase.
The fact that we went through all of this with the roe writs and that we now have this issue with jewel writs is pretty astounding when you think about it.
I'm not sure when the Roe writs changed, but it's fairly recent. The 10 voucher versions were still dropping during the Anniversary Event.
That' irrelevant. There were threads about the roe writ issue months before they fixed it.
They knew about under-valued master writs being an issue well-before the master jewelry crafting writs were introduced. Its unacceptable that they were allowed to go live like this.
"Unacceptable"? It really isn't a big deal. Just don't do that writ. Problem solved. This blocks nothing.
So melodramatic.
Except you could have gotten a different writ or anything else instead of that crap writ.
Opportunity cost is a thing.
This is supposed to be the endgame crafter's reward, so yes it is more of a punishment and thus is unacceptable.1 -
Mystrius_Archaion✭✭✭✭✭
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We have a different definition of "worth" as this writ would be immediately destroyed. 250 writs, minimum, for anything Legendary. This is an Epic level writ.Look at the difference in the craft to cost between these two vouchers for example, jewelcrafting writs will just collect dust.
I get some people probably have tons of tannins to do these insignificant writs, but most of us don't.
Breaking down 1000 materials doesn't even net us enough damn tannins to upgrade a single piece of armor or weapon.
No way in hell am I wasting them on a 115 writ.
In fact, the whole damn "master" definition of crafting is a complete joke.
agreed
"You choose to play a game by ZOS. You are likely to be eaten by 'a greed'."
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Mystrius_Archaion✭✭✭✭✭
✭TheCyberDruid wrote: »We have a different definition of "worth" as this writ would be immediately destroyed. 250 writs, minimum, for anything Legendary. This is an Epic level writ.
I get some people probably have tons of tannins to do these insignificant writs, but most of us don't.
115 vouchers for 8 wax and a fortified nirncrux? Hell yes, I'd do that any day! Even if you have to buy the wax it's still worth doing it (on PC EU at least).
It's better than the other ones worth 67 writs for similar but a different set or less rare style.
I think anything with legendary requirements needs to be higher total.0 -
xmaveri✭✭✭Elsterchen wrote: »Since i just uploaded it ...
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nuff said...
You wanna buy this amazing $50 bill? If your willing to do a little work for it I'll let you have it for $100.3 -
Mystrius_Archaion✭✭✭✭✭
✭Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »Elsterchen wrote: »Since i just uploaded it ...
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nuff said...
WOW!
It requires, through the only way to get it, a mat for 20 vouchers to regain 10 for a net loss of 10!
/bravo /golfclap Way to go ZOS, shafting us hard!
Also, why is a Master Writ, which is the only way to get vouchers, requiring an item that you need vouchers to get?
This paradox would make Marty Mcfly come back and say "This is heavy Doc" so much he would rub his hair right off with his hair push when he says it.4 -
Sinolai✭✭✭✭✭I made one to get the "upgrade jewellery to green-purple" achievement. after that I havent touched them0
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Varana✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭We should lobby for JC writs to be added to the Crown Store. Then ZOS will care, in a matter of days.
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Kelces✭✭✭✭✭Yep, I totally agree. Completely useless, until they make a normal temper system with jewelcrafting aswell.You reveal yourself best in how you play.
Kelces - Argonian Templar
Farel Donvu - Dark Elf Sorcerer
Navam Llervu - Dark Elf Dragonknight
Aniseth - Wood Elf Warden
Therediel - Wood Elf Templar
Nilonwy - Wood Elf Nightblade
Jurupari - Argonian Warden
Kú-Chulainn - Argonian Sorcerer
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For the Pact!0 -
Dradhok✭✭✭JC is still new so I’m hopeful that a full rework is in our near future. If not it is virtually worthless.0 -
orubor✭✭I think something people are failing to understand is that jewelry crafting has only been here for roughly a month and that's why the prices are expensive for everything.
There's a huge demand for them. People literally maxed their skill the first day Summerset came out.
There hasn't been enough time to have an abundance of jewelry mats on the market like there are for every other skill. There's economical factor that people are not paying attention to. High demand allows for high prices. Give it another month or two. Sure, that sounds like a lot of time, but what are you gonna do? Destroy the writ because no one is buying and you can't do it yet? That would be pointless.
Just as prices fluctuate for everything else on the marketplace, so will jewelry mats. First week, slaughterstones were worth 35k+, a stack of 50 copper ounces yielded me 30k, etc. The prices are going down fairly steadily. Some mats are rarer than others, and so the price may be more.
I think if they slightly raise the chromium drop rate, that might speed things up. But just because this is a video game doesn't mean the marketplace doesn't mimic a real life one. Give it time. Be patient. Farm jewelry mats a lot. Deconstruct and refine once you've gotten 3/3 of that passive. You'll soon find yourself with plenty of green and blue plates, a few purple ones, a few chromium grains, etc. JC will seem much more reasonable as the time passes.0 -
GamerAeryn✭✭✭literally the only writ I delete instantlyGaming Youtube: TESO questing gameplay
GamerAeryn - 15/15, ESO+, beta, 1k+
GamerAeryn2 - 15/15, ESO+, 780+0 -
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✭✭✭I also have a long thread about not having JC hirelings & how horrid the JC basic writ droprates are for grains0 -
Mystrius_Archaion✭✭✭✭✭
✭I think something people are failing to understand is that jewelry crafting has only been here for roughly a month and that's why the prices are expensive for everything.
No, the prices are expensive because you literally get 1/10th of a temper when with other crafts you get a full temper. It needs 10 times the upgrade materials that drop at the same rate so 10 times slower than other crafts and thus permanently 10 times as expensive.
Also, jewelry nodes are often replaced by blacksmithing nodes because they share spawn locations so that makes them twice as rare by default.
Honestly, I'm surprised blacksmithing materials haven't raised super high in price because they are less common also now with the jewelry nodes sometimes taking their place, but I bet this is because of people farming a lot of jewelry mats so getting ore and because people without summerset probably still see an ore node when there would be a jewelry node for anybody else, just like the different ore types for different players with different skill ranks. We also have a lot more blacksmithing mats saved up.
The prices will not go down much, if at all, unless the bot farmers win and swarm the game.4
