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sloads is destroying pvp
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Betsararie✭✭✭✭✭
✭TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »Anyway, to get back to Sloads, one of the biggest problems I have seen that revolve around the set is not the set itself...
Its the sets that other people are running...
I made a thread in the PvP Section about the number of Defensive Sets people are using https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/418912/to-those-who-wear-light-armor-how-many-defensive-sets-are-you-currently-wearing#latest and from this (albeit small) sample size, it sure looks like a lot of people are running glass canon builds that rely solely on a single defensive mechanism (like Cloak or Shield Spam) to survive...
These builds don't have a high health pool and once that single layer of defense (wether it be Cloak or Shields) are penetrated, they have nothing left to save them from death other than running away...
In other words, these people are dying to Sloads because of build decisions...
These people don't want to adapt their builds at all; they want to run what they've always run and rely on whatever sole defensive mechanism they've been using to allow them to win fights, and/or 1vX whenever they want...
I agree with all of this.4 -
Raudgrani✭✭✭✭✭
✭No, it is not. I've had sload's on my death recap some times, damage like 2-4k. If that's "destroying PVP", then you have other problems besides Sload's. No, I don't use Sload's, never have and probably never will.2 -
Peekachu99✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭DRAGON_KILLER_HUNTER wrote: »
No, but the real counter to it is just to kill your opponent faster than they kill you. Obviously.
Yes because glass cannon dps racing, where you just stack your proc-meta and hammer buttons (they don’t matter really, sets will do all the work) is so complex and enjoyable a sport. Obviously.
PVP is in a wretched state and needs a gut and rework.
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Vapirko✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No, it is not. I've had sload's on my death recap some times, damage like 2-4k. If that's "destroying PVP", then you have other problems besides Sload's. No, I don't use Sload's, never have and probably never will.
Look at me I’m another EP tank running with a 20 man zerg and sloads doesn’t bother me so it’s not OP.7 -
jaschacasadiob16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭PvP is broken since 2014."Yesterday while searching a barrel in vVoM I found a lemon. Best drop of the whole run."
Protect the weak. Heal the sick.
Treasure the gifts of friendship. Seek joy and inspiration in the mysteries of love.
Honor the Earth, its creatures, and the spirits. Use Nature's gifts wisely. Respect her power. Fear her fury.4 -
Berenhir✭✭✭✭✭
✭No, it is not. I've had sload's on my death recap some times, damage like 2-4k. If that's "destroying PVP", then you have other problems besides Sload's. No, I don't use Sload's, never have and probably never will.
So you never survived longer than 4 seconds against a Sload user? That's a really sad confession
PC EU - Ebonheart Pact - Gray Host - Death Recap -#zergfarming -2 -
Raudgrani✭✭✭✭✭
✭No, it is not. I've had sload's on my death recap some times, damage like 2-4k. If that's "destroying PVP", then you have other problems besides Sload's. No, I don't use Sload's, never have and probably never will.
Look at me I’m another EP tank running with a 20 man zerg and sloads doesn’t bother me so it’s not OP.
I don't even have a tank anymore. I PVP these days with stamina and magicka nightblade, a stamina warden and a stamina templar (the later is actually more of a werewolf only build). I don't purge anything on other than the templar when in human form. I'm not a top tier player (well, according to some I am, but the top notch players won't agree to that).
I still die 9/10 from dawnbreaker/steel tornado, as I have done the last 2-3 months or so. Before that it was all eye-of-flame/vicious death/proxy. Sload's doesn't bother me at all, not even when it's worn by the most skilled enemies I know.0 -
Betsararie✭✭✭✭✭
✭Comeon guys sload. Some pay off for no work.
There's so much more possible in the game.0 -
Gnozo✭✭✭✭✭
✭TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »DRAGON_KILLER_HUNTER wrote: »i bet most people that say "LOL SLOADS IS EASY TO COUNTER JUST PURGE LOL" are running sloads.
Nope...
No Sloads here...
Spectre's Eye/Combat Physician/Mighty Chudan combines to make me pretty hard to kill which I love...
I have no interest in wearing Sloads at current as a result...
Considering the terrible sets you use, I doubt you have much experience on solo/small scale pvp which is where sload's is OP.
You ignorance is apparent as small scale and solo is what I mostly do and have great success with the above...
Running Shields, Major Evasion, while sporting high base resists simutaneously is amazingly effective...
But I don't expect small minds to realize it...
Lets look at spectre's eye for starters: Mediocre 2-4 piece bonuses. Uptime probably lower than 40%, but lets be generous and say 45%. That gives you on average 6,75% mitigation from the set, but it doesn't work against aoe or channeled stuff (like most ultimates for example).
Check out the thread below to see a ton of better options: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/383840/math-pvp-defensive-set-comparison-impreg-brass-pariah-riposte-more/p1
I am fully aware of Taylors thread (I posted a lengthly post about the merits of Spectre's Eye there as a matter of fact) and your opinion on the 2-4 set piece bonus's I disagree with:
Physical Resist...
Last I looked, there is a lot of physical damage in this game, so you can never have too much of this as a result...
2975 Physical Resist equates to around 4.5% damage negation against Physical attacks with 100% uptime, and you think that's mediocre!?
LoL...
Max Magicka...
I am a Magicka Templar, so this is always good for me...
Max Health...
Sloads cannot be mitigated, so the only "defense" to it is to have a high Health Pool, excellent Self Healing, and/or high Health Regen...
Spectre's Eye enhances your Health Pool significantly...
So looking at the bonus's, I see nothing but goodness; some might not agree with that, but those bonus's add to survivability, and that's always a good thing in PvP...
As pertains to Spectre Eye's ability to mitigate damage, on average, yes there are other sets that will outperform it, but Spectre's Eye brings something to the table that other sets like Riposte's and Transmutation cant match and that's the ability to completely avoid an attack (and that attacks secondary effects like Poison and CC)...
I've passively dodged Incap on multiple occasions, and so I avoided 6-10k damage, being Major Defiled, and Hard Stunned...all at once.
Not many other sets can match something like that, and IMHO, it more than makes up for the damage mitigation over time differential that some of the other sets have over it...
In conclusion, I feel the set is much better than its rep suggests...
So from the sets u use u are a tank in a 20 man zerg with little to 0 knowledge about competetive pvp in this game.
U are using only tank sets and with this u will even have a hard time killing guards without your zerg. But u can prove me wrong ofc. I have no problem to duel u. I am on PC Eu but we can also meet on pts if u are from NA. Just throw me an @ in forum or ingame with @gnozo. This goes for every forum warrior here. I will take my time so u can show me how professional u are in this game.
People are suggesting to run purge in battlegrounds. It costs 7k magicka. And thats all the magicka i have in nocp on a stamina build. So after using purge wich also dont grant to remove sloads cause only 2 negative effects my magicka is completly empty. So i cant use any utility skills anymore. No streak, surge, dark deal or vol armor, igneos shield or cloak, fear, shadow image
Thanks for the awesome tips my professional forum warriors.
Prove me wrong. Lets meet on pts. We gonna duel and u Show me ur awesome build wich can survive sloads, bleeding and major defile while still being able to sustain in long fights and still have decent damage to kill the average player.
I am really looking forward to these duels. Pls
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Anastian✭✭✭I'd also like to mention the incredible amount of hate comments that increase the toxicity in PvP, all being sload related.0 -
TheDoomsdayMonster✭✭✭✭✭TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »DRAGON_KILLER_HUNTER wrote: »i bet most people that say "LOL SLOADS IS EASY TO COUNTER JUST PURGE LOL" are running sloads.
Nope...
No Sloads here...
Spectre's Eye/Combat Physician/Mighty Chudan combines to make me pretty hard to kill which I love...
I have no interest in wearing Sloads at current as a result...
Considering the terrible sets you use, I doubt you have much experience on solo/small scale pvp which is where sload's is OP.
You ignorance is apparent as small scale and solo is what I mostly do and have great success with the above...
Running Shields, Major Evasion, while sporting high base resists simutaneously is amazingly effective...
But I don't expect small minds to realize it...
Lets look at spectre's eye for starters: Mediocre 2-4 piece bonuses. Uptime probably lower than 40%, but lets be generous and say 45%. That gives you on average 6,75% mitigation from the set, but it doesn't work against aoe or channeled stuff (like most ultimates for example).
Check out the thread below to see a ton of better options: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/383840/math-pvp-defensive-set-comparison-impreg-brass-pariah-riposte-more/p1
I am fully aware of Taylors thread (I posted a lengthly post about the merits of Spectre's Eye there as a matter of fact) and your opinion on the 2-4 set piece bonus's I disagree with:
Physical Resist...
Last I looked, there is a lot of physical damage in this game, so you can never have too much of this as a result...
2975 Physical Resist equates to around 4.5% damage negation against Physical attacks with 100% uptime, and you think that's mediocre!?
LoL...
Max Magicka...
I am a Magicka Templar, so this is always good for me...
Max Health...
Sloads cannot be mitigated, so the only "defense" to it is to have a high Health Pool, excellent Self Healing, and/or high Health Regen...
Spectre's Eye enhances your Health Pool significantly...
So looking at the bonus's, I see nothing but goodness; some might not agree with that, but those bonus's add to survivability, and that's always a good thing in PvP...
As pertains to Spectre Eye's ability to mitigate damage, on average, yes there are other sets that will outperform it, but Spectre's Eye brings something to the table that other sets like Riposte's and Transmutation cant match and that's the ability to completely avoid an attack (and that attacks secondary effects like Poison and CC)...
I've passively dodged Incap on multiple occasions, and so I avoided 6-10k damage, being Major Defiled, and Hard Stunned...all at once.
Not many other sets can match something like that, and IMHO, it more than makes up for the damage mitigation over time differential that some of the other sets have over it...
In conclusion, I feel the set is much better than its rep suggests...
So from the sets u use u are a tank in a 20 man zerg with little to 0 knowledge about competetive pvp in this game.
U are using only tank sets and with this u will even have a hard time killing guards without your zerg. But u can prove me wrong ofc. I have no problem to duel u. I am on PC Eu but we can also meet on pts if u are from NA. Just throw me an @ in forum or ingame with @gnozo. This goes for every forum warrior here. I will take my time so u can show me how professional u are in this game.
People are suggesting to run purge in battlegrounds. It costs 7k magicka. And thats all the magicka i have in nocp on a stamina build. So after using purge wich also dont grant to remove sloads cause only 2 negative effects my magicka is completly empty. So i cant use any utility skills anymore. No streak, surge, dark deal or vol armor, igneos shield or cloak, fear, shadow image
Thanks for the awesome tips my professional forum warriors.
Prove me wrong. Lets meet on pts. We gonna duel and u Show me ur awesome build wich can survive sloads, bleeding and major defile while still being able to sustain in long fights and still have decent damage to kill the average player.
I am really looking forward to these duels. Pls
The amount of ignorance in this post is nauseating...
Just stop with your wrong assumptions...
Btw, I like that you took the time to quote my post, but was unable to refute a single thing in it...
As pertains your Magicka Pool, I guess giving up some of that Stam/Weapon Crit/Weapon Damage for a larger Magicka pool is unthinkable for you...eh?
LoL...
Adapt or die and stop crying...
Cheers!
;,,,;
Edited by TheDoomsdayMonster on June 15, 2018 8:45AMUnyeilding Bias
PSN TheLordofMurder
PS4 NA
Magicka Templar
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The Combat Physician: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKaqUVm_8JE&t=142s5 -
Olen_Mikko✭✭✭✭✭
✭So you clearly haven't played in Viper / op proc set era?NB enthusiastic:- Woodhippie stamblade - DW hard-hitter / PvE
- Know-it-all elf Magblade - Healer / PvE & PvP
- Hate-them-all elf Magblade - Destrostaff AoE monster / PvE
- Cyrodiil-Refugee stamblade - Stamina Tank / PvE
Go dominion or go home
Nightblade-Hipster. I played Nightblade before it was cool - from 1.5 onwards.1 -
Gnozo✭✭✭✭✭
✭TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »DRAGON_KILLER_HUNTER wrote: »i bet most people that say "LOL SLOADS IS EASY TO COUNTER JUST PURGE LOL" are running sloads.
Nope...
No Sloads here...
Spectre's Eye/Combat Physician/Mighty Chudan combines to make me pretty hard to kill which I love...
I have no interest in wearing Sloads at current as a result...
Considering the terrible sets you use, I doubt you have much experience on solo/small scale pvp which is where sload's is OP.
You ignorance is apparent as small scale and solo is what I mostly do and have great success with the above...
Running Shields, Major Evasion, while sporting high base resists simutaneously is amazingly effective...
But I don't expect small minds to realize it...
Lets look at spectre's eye for starters: Mediocre 2-4 piece bonuses. Uptime probably lower than 40%, but lets be generous and say 45%. That gives you on average 6,75% mitigation from the set, but it doesn't work against aoe or channeled stuff (like most ultimates for example).
Check out the thread below to see a ton of better options: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/383840/math-pvp-defensive-set-comparison-impreg-brass-pariah-riposte-more/p1
I am fully aware of Taylors thread (I posted a lengthly post about the merits of Spectre's Eye there as a matter of fact) and your opinion on the 2-4 set piece bonus's I disagree with:
Physical Resist...
Last I looked, there is a lot of physical damage in this game, so you can never have too much of this as a result...
2975 Physical Resist equates to around 4.5% damage negation against Physical attacks with 100% uptime, and you think that's mediocre!?
LoL...
Max Magicka...
I am a Magicka Templar, so this is always good for me...
Max Health...
Sloads cannot be mitigated, so the only "defense" to it is to have a high Health Pool, excellent Self Healing, and/or high Health Regen...
Spectre's Eye enhances your Health Pool significantly...
So looking at the bonus's, I see nothing but goodness; some might not agree with that, but those bonus's add to survivability, and that's always a good thing in PvP...
As pertains to Spectre Eye's ability to mitigate damage, on average, yes there are other sets that will outperform it, but Spectre's Eye brings something to the table that other sets like Riposte's and Transmutation cant match and that's the ability to completely avoid an attack (and that attacks secondary effects like Poison and CC)...
I've passively dodged Incap on multiple occasions, and so I avoided 6-10k damage, being Major Defiled, and Hard Stunned...all at once.
Not many other sets can match something like that, and IMHO, it more than makes up for the damage mitigation over time differential that some of the other sets have over it...
In conclusion, I feel the set is much better than its rep suggests...
So from the sets u use u are a tank in a 20 man zerg with little to 0 knowledge about competetive pvp in this game.
U are using only tank sets and with this u will even have a hard time killing guards without your zerg. But u can prove me wrong ofc. I have no problem to duel u. I am on PC Eu but we can also meet on pts if u are from NA. Just throw me an @ in forum or ingame with @gnozo. This goes for every forum warrior here. I will take my time so u can show me how professional u are in this game.
People are suggesting to run purge in battlegrounds. It costs 7k magicka. And thats all the magicka i have in nocp on a stamina build. So after using purge wich also dont grant to remove sloads cause only 2 negative effects my magicka is completly empty. So i cant use any utility skills anymore. No streak, surge, dark deal or vol armor, igneos shield or cloak, fear, shadow image
Thanks for the awesome tips my professional forum warriors.
Prove me wrong. Lets meet on pts. We gonna duel and u Show me ur awesome build wich can survive sloads, bleeding and major defile while still being able to sustain in long fights and still have decent damage to kill the average player.
I am really looking forward to these duels. Pls
The amount of ignorance in this post is nauseating...
Just stop with your wrong assumptions...
As pertains your Magicka Pool, I guess giving up some of that Stam/Weapon Crit/Weapon Damage for a larger Magicka pool is unthinkable for you...eh?
LoL...
Adapt or die and stop crying...
Cheers!
;,,,;
So how much should i stack into Magicka mr Grand overlord?
20k? So my stam pool is like 25k? And my damage and healing is completly non existent only to spam purge to counter one specific 5 piece?
Ur knowledge about in depth pvp mechanics is nauseating.
My duel offer still stands mate 9 -
Moonsorrow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Remember the times when OP was asking Cloak to be nerfed because it was a "1 skill godmode nerfff nightblades already!!" ? And now when there IS something that can break Cloak he wants that nerfed because he started to play nightblade too and dont want Cloak to break anymore? Careful what you wish to get nerfed, now you ask this.. think what they will bring next?
People should stop these nerf this and that requests, ZOS is listening but the resulting changes are not the things you might want to happen haha.
Also, Sloads is a nice set and works as intended. Tested it on 1 character myself, not wearing anymore but a decent set.. still, enemy having purge makes it useless. There are things called HEALERS that make the set underwhelming. Remember healers guys? Those people who purge and heal you. ESO should not be balanced 1vs1, but by group action, and who does not bring a healer.. well, bring one next time an Sloads is not a problem for the team, simple.4 -
Qbiken✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »DRAGON_KILLER_HUNTER wrote: »i bet most people that say "LOL SLOADS IS EASY TO COUNTER JUST PURGE LOL" are running sloads.
Nope...
No Sloads here...
Spectre's Eye/Combat Physician/Mighty Chudan combines to make me pretty hard to kill which I love...
I have no interest in wearing Sloads at current as a result...
Considering the terrible sets you use, I doubt you have much experience on solo/small scale pvp which is where sload's is OP.
You ignorance is apparent as small scale and solo is what I mostly do and have great success with the above...
Running Shields, Major Evasion, while sporting high base resists simutaneously is amazingly effective...
But I don't expect small minds to realize it...
Lets look at spectre's eye for starters: Mediocre 2-4 piece bonuses. Uptime probably lower than 40%, but lets be generous and say 45%. That gives you on average 6,75% mitigation from the set, but it doesn't work against aoe or channeled stuff (like most ultimates for example).
Check out the thread below to see a ton of better options: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/383840/math-pvp-defensive-set-comparison-impreg-brass-pariah-riposte-more/p1
I am fully aware of Taylors thread (I posted a lengthly post about the merits of Spectre's Eye there as a matter of fact) and your opinion on the 2-4 set piece bonus's I disagree with:
Physical Resist...
Last I looked, there is a lot of physical damage in this game, so you can never have too much of this as a result...
2975 Physical Resist equates to around 4.5% damage negation against Physical attacks with 100% uptime, and you think that's mediocre!?
LoL...
Max Magicka...
I am a Magicka Templar, so this is always good for me...
Max Health...
Sloads cannot be mitigated, so the only "defense" to it is to have a high Health Pool, excellent Self Healing, and/or high Health Regen...
Spectre's Eye enhances your Health Pool significantly...
So looking at the bonus's, I see nothing but goodness; some might not agree with that, but those bonus's add to survivability, and that's always a good thing in PvP...
As pertains to Spectre Eye's ability to mitigate damage, on average, yes there are other sets that will outperform it, but Spectre's Eye brings something to the table that other sets like Riposte's and Transmutation cant match and that's the ability to completely avoid an attack (and that attacks secondary effects like Poison and CC)...
I've passively dodged Incap on multiple occasions, and so I avoided 6-10k damage, being Major Defiled, and Hard Stunned...all at once.
Not many other sets can match something like that, and IMHO, it more than makes up for the damage mitigation over time differential that some of the other sets have over it...
In conclusion, I feel the set is much better than its rep suggests...
So from the sets u use u are a tank in a 20 man zerg with little to 0 knowledge about competetive pvp in this game.
U are using only tank sets and with this u will even have a hard time killing guards without your zerg. But u can prove me wrong ofc. I have no problem to duel u. I am on PC Eu but we can also meet on pts if u are from NA. Just throw me an @ in forum or ingame with @gnozo. This goes for every forum warrior here. I will take my time so u can show me how professional u are in this game.
People are suggesting to run purge in battlegrounds. It costs 7k magicka. And thats all the magicka i have in nocp on a stamina build. So after using purge wich also dont grant to remove sloads cause only 2 negative effects my magicka is completly empty. So i cant use any utility skills anymore. No streak, surge, dark deal or vol armor, igneos shield or cloak, fear, shadow image
Thanks for the awesome tips my professional forum warriors.
Prove me wrong. Lets meet on pts. We gonna duel and u Show me ur awesome build wich can survive sloads, bleeding and major defile while still being able to sustain in long fights and still have decent damage to kill the average player.
I am really looking forward to these duels. Pls
" I will use my duelling cheese build with master axe bleed, defiles 2x dot poisons and sload´s to prove that you´re a bad player and that your build is bad"
lmao xD
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TheDoomsdayMonster✭✭✭✭✭TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »DRAGON_KILLER_HUNTER wrote: »i bet most people that say "LOL SLOADS IS EASY TO COUNTER JUST PURGE LOL" are running sloads.
Nope...
No Sloads here...
Spectre's Eye/Combat Physician/Mighty Chudan combines to make me pretty hard to kill which I love...
I have no interest in wearing Sloads at current as a result...
Considering the terrible sets you use, I doubt you have much experience on solo/small scale pvp which is where sload's is OP.
You ignorance is apparent as small scale and solo is what I mostly do and have great success with the above...
Running Shields, Major Evasion, while sporting high base resists simutaneously is amazingly effective...
But I don't expect small minds to realize it...
Lets look at spectre's eye for starters: Mediocre 2-4 piece bonuses. Uptime probably lower than 40%, but lets be generous and say 45%. That gives you on average 6,75% mitigation from the set, but it doesn't work against aoe or channeled stuff (like most ultimates for example).
Check out the thread below to see a ton of better options: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/383840/math-pvp-defensive-set-comparison-impreg-brass-pariah-riposte-more/p1
I am fully aware of Taylors thread (I posted a lengthly post about the merits of Spectre's Eye there as a matter of fact) and your opinion on the 2-4 set piece bonus's I disagree with:
Physical Resist...
Last I looked, there is a lot of physical damage in this game, so you can never have too much of this as a result...
2975 Physical Resist equates to around 4.5% damage negation against Physical attacks with 100% uptime, and you think that's mediocre!?
LoL...
Max Magicka...
I am a Magicka Templar, so this is always good for me...
Max Health...
Sloads cannot be mitigated, so the only "defense" to it is to have a high Health Pool, excellent Self Healing, and/or high Health Regen...
Spectre's Eye enhances your Health Pool significantly...
So looking at the bonus's, I see nothing but goodness; some might not agree with that, but those bonus's add to survivability, and that's always a good thing in PvP...
As pertains to Spectre Eye's ability to mitigate damage, on average, yes there are other sets that will outperform it, but Spectre's Eye brings something to the table that other sets like Riposte's and Transmutation cant match and that's the ability to completely avoid an attack (and that attacks secondary effects like Poison and CC)...
I've passively dodged Incap on multiple occasions, and so I avoided 6-10k damage, being Major Defiled, and Hard Stunned...all at once.
Not many other sets can match something like that, and IMHO, it more than makes up for the damage mitigation over time differential that some of the other sets have over it...
In conclusion, I feel the set is much better than its rep suggests...
So from the sets u use u are a tank in a 20 man zerg with little to 0 knowledge about competetive pvp in this game.
U are using only tank sets and with this u will even have a hard time killing guards without your zerg. But u can prove me wrong ofc. I have no problem to duel u. I am on PC Eu but we can also meet on pts if u are from NA. Just throw me an @ in forum or ingame with @gnozo. This goes for every forum warrior here. I will take my time so u can show me how professional u are in this game.
People are suggesting to run purge in battlegrounds. It costs 7k magicka. And thats all the magicka i have in nocp on a stamina build. So after using purge wich also dont grant to remove sloads cause only 2 negative effects my magicka is completly empty. So i cant use any utility skills anymore. No streak, surge, dark deal or vol armor, igneos shield or cloak, fear, shadow image
Thanks for the awesome tips my professional forum warriors.
Prove me wrong. Lets meet on pts. We gonna duel and u Show me ur awesome build wich can survive sloads, bleeding and major defile while still being able to sustain in long fights and still have decent damage to kill the average player.
I am really looking forward to these duels. Pls
The amount of ignorance in this post is nauseating...
Just stop with your wrong assumptions...
As pertains your Magicka Pool, I guess giving up some of that Stam/Weapon Crit/Weapon Damage for a larger Magicka pool is unthinkable for you...eh?
LoL...
Adapt or die and stop crying...
Cheers!
;,,,;
So how much should i stack into Magicka mr Grand overlord?
20k? So my stam pool is like 25k? And my damage and healing is completly non existent only to spam purge to counter one specific 5 piece?
Ur knowledge about in depth pvp mechanics is nauseating.
My duel offer still stands mate
Figure it out for yourself; you alledgedly have a brain..use it.
Unyeilding Bias
PSN TheLordofMurder
PS4 NA
Magicka Templar
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I run it with bloodspawn and ww hide. I dont run with sload groups(it shouldnt stack) and i dont run defile and bleed builds. I like it cause it offers me some pressure.Edited by D0PAMINE on June 15, 2018 8:54AM0 -
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100% agreed man. Even ZOS can't be this oblivious to balance.
You don't have to explain anything to me about the 'why'. I was just pointing out the facts and why the guy was wrong.
It doesn't do 400 damage. It does exactly the amount of damage on the tooltip. It is oblivion damage, which means it isn't mitigated by anything: resistances, damage reduction, mistform, shields, block, dodge, cloak and NOT EVEN battlespirit. So the damage isn't even halved. So what you basically have is a viper dot on steriods doing twice the amount of damage and it is not mitigatable. It can be stacked on you ad infinium and eats up all your healing. It is a disgusting set, especially in this defile meta.gamerguy757 wrote: »Maybe I'm being dumb...but I looked up Sloads online...how is a set that does 400 damage in cyrodil cause so much problems? Can someone explain what this set is doing that is such an issue?
Battle spirit doesn't reduce Oblivion Damage because Oblivion damage isn't modified by anything...It would be absolutely pointless to do that as the devs can set it exactly how much they want it to do.
Also Sloads is basically doing the same damage that Overwhelming Surge does, the only difference is one applies as status effect and one goes through Shields.
And no, on a build with decent damage reduction and resistances overwhelming surge deals a lot less damage to your opponent than sloads. It also doesn't stick so if the target gets out of range the damage dissapears. Overwhelming is a strong set, but not overperforming because it can actually he countered/mitigated.
It also has a condition to proc in that it has to be a class skill, which mean it’s limited to moslty magicka builds and won’t proc of things like siege. Sloads procs on any type of damage at all and works on any and all builds. It procs of bow light attacks or siege damage. It’s far too accessible and is unprecedented in this game. It is a set meant to trump other sets and sell content. ZOS is aware of its overuse and in the past this has led to nerfs, but they’ve statedthey won’t ans it’s because Summerset is new. Mark my words, once summerset has faded a little Sloads will be adjusted and the next set will come out.1 -
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100% agreed man. Even ZOS can't be this oblivious to balance.
You don't have to explain anything to me about the 'why'. I was just pointing out the facts and why the guy was wrong.
It doesn't do 400 damage. It does exactly the amount of damage on the tooltip. It is oblivion damage, which means it isn't mitigated by anything: resistances, damage reduction, mistform, shields, block, dodge, cloak and NOT EVEN battlespirit. So the damage isn't even halved. So what you basically have is a viper dot on steriods doing twice the amount of damage and it is not mitigatable. It can be stacked on you ad infinium and eats up all your healing. It is a disgusting set, especially in this defile meta.gamerguy757 wrote: »Maybe I'm being dumb...but I looked up Sloads online...how is a set that does 400 damage in cyrodil cause so much problems? Can someone explain what this set is doing that is such an issue?
Battle spirit doesn't reduce Oblivion Damage because Oblivion damage isn't modified by anything...It would be absolutely pointless to do that as the devs can set it exactly how much they want it to do.
Also Sloads is basically doing the same damage that Overwhelming Surge does, the only difference is one applies as status effect and one goes through Shields.
And no, on a build with decent damage reduction and resistances overwhelming surge deals a lot less damage to your opponent than sloads. It also doesn't stick so if the target gets out of range the damage dissapears. Overwhelming is a strong set, but not overperforming because it can actually he countered/mitigated.
It also has a condition to proc in that it has to be a class skill, which mean it’s limited to moslty magicka builds and won’t proc of things like siege. Sloads procs on any type of damage at all and works on any and all builds. It procs of bow light attacks or siege damage. It’s far too accessible and is unprecedented in this game. It is a set meant to trump other sets and sell content. ZOS is aware of its overuse and in the past this has led to nerfs, but they’ve statedthey won’t ans it’s because Summerset is new. Mark my words, once summerset has faded a little Sloads will be adjusted and the next set will come out.
ZOS can balance. This game is getting more and more balanced.0 -
TheDoomsdayMonster✭✭✭✭✭TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »DRAGON_KILLER_HUNTER wrote: »i bet most people that say "LOL SLOADS IS EASY TO COUNTER JUST PURGE LOL" are running sloads.
Nope...
No Sloads here...
Spectre's Eye/Combat Physician/Mighty Chudan combines to make me pretty hard to kill which I love...
I have no interest in wearing Sloads at current as a result...
Considering the terrible sets you use, I doubt you have much experience on solo/small scale pvp which is where sload's is OP.
You ignorance is apparent as small scale and solo is what I mostly do and have great success with the above...
Running Shields, Major Evasion, while sporting high base resists simutaneously is amazingly effective...
But I don't expect small minds to realize it...
Lets look at spectre's eye for starters: Mediocre 2-4 piece bonuses. Uptime probably lower than 40%, but lets be generous and say 45%. That gives you on average 6,75% mitigation from the set, but it doesn't work against aoe or channeled stuff (like most ultimates for example).
Check out the thread below to see a ton of better options: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/383840/math-pvp-defensive-set-comparison-impreg-brass-pariah-riposte-more/p1
I am fully aware of Taylors thread (I posted a lengthly post about the merits of Spectre's Eye there as a matter of fact) and your opinion on the 2-4 set piece bonus's I disagree with:
Physical Resist...
Last I looked, there is a lot of physical damage in this game, so you can never have too much of this as a result...
2975 Physical Resist equates to around 4.5% damage negation against Physical attacks with 100% uptime, and you think that's mediocre!?
LoL...
Max Magicka...
I am a Magicka Templar, so this is always good for me...
Max Health...
Sloads cannot be mitigated, so the only "defense" to it is to have a high Health Pool, excellent Self Healing, and/or high Health Regen...
Spectre's Eye enhances your Health Pool significantly...
So looking at the bonus's, I see nothing but goodness; some might not agree with that, but those bonus's add to survivability, and that's always a good thing in PvP...
As pertains to Spectre Eye's ability to mitigate damage, on average, yes there are other sets that will outperform it, but Spectre's Eye brings something to the table that other sets like Riposte's and Transmutation cant match and that's the ability to completely avoid an attack (and that attacks secondary effects like Poison and CC)...
I've passively dodged Incap on multiple occasions, and so I avoided 6-10k damage, being Major Defiled, and Hard Stunned...all at once.
Not many other sets can match something like that, and IMHO, it more than makes up for the damage mitigation over time differential that some of the other sets have over it...
In conclusion, I feel the set is much better than its rep suggests...
So from the sets u use u are a tank in a 20 man zerg with little to 0 knowledge about competetive pvp in this game.
U are using only tank sets and with this u will even have a hard time killing guards without your zerg. But u can prove me wrong ofc. I have no problem to duel u. I am on PC Eu but we can also meet on pts if u are from NA. Just throw me an @ in forum or ingame with @gnozo. This goes for every forum warrior here. I will take my time so u can show me how professional u are in this game.
People are suggesting to run purge in battlegrounds. It costs 7k magicka. And thats all the magicka i have in nocp on a stamina build. So after using purge wich also dont grant to remove sloads cause only 2 negative effects my magicka is completly empty. So i cant use any utility skills anymore. No streak, surge, dark deal or vol armor, igneos shield or cloak, fear, shadow image
Thanks for the awesome tips my professional forum warriors.
Prove me wrong. Lets meet on pts. We gonna duel and u Show me ur awesome build wich can survive sloads, bleeding and major defile while still being able to sustain in long fights and still have decent damage to kill the average player.
I am really looking forward to these duels. Pls
" I will use my duelling cheese build with master axe bleed, defiles 2x dot poisons and sload´s to prove that you´re a bad player and that your build is bad"
lmao xD
100% agreed!
Unyeilding Bias
PSN TheLordofMurder
PS4 NA
Magicka Templar
DC
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✭TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »DRAGON_KILLER_HUNTER wrote: »i bet most people that say "LOL SLOADS IS EASY TO COUNTER JUST PURGE LOL" are running sloads.
Nope...
No Sloads here...
Spectre's Eye/Combat Physician/Mighty Chudan combines to make me pretty hard to kill which I love...
I have no interest in wearing Sloads at current as a result...
Considering the terrible sets you use, I doubt you have much experience on solo/small scale pvp which is where sload's is OP.
You ignorance is apparent as small scale and solo is what I mostly do and have great success with the above...
Running Shields, Major Evasion, while sporting high base resists simutaneously is amazingly effective...
But I don't expect small minds to realize it...
Lets look at spectre's eye for starters: Mediocre 2-4 piece bonuses. Uptime probably lower than 40%, but lets be generous and say 45%. That gives you on average 6,75% mitigation from the set, but it doesn't work against aoe or channeled stuff (like most ultimates for example).
Check out the thread below to see a ton of better options: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/383840/math-pvp-defensive-set-comparison-impreg-brass-pariah-riposte-more/p1
I am fully aware of Taylors thread (I posted a lengthly post about the merits of Spectre's Eye there as a matter of fact) and your opinion on the 2-4 set piece bonus's I disagree with:
Physical Resist...
Last I looked, there is a lot of physical damage in this game, so you can never have too much of this as a result...
2975 Physical Resist equates to around 4.5% damage negation against Physical attacks with 100% uptime, and you think that's mediocre!?
LoL...
Max Magicka...
I am a Magicka Templar, so this is always good for me...
Max Health...
Sloads cannot be mitigated, so the only "defense" to it is to have a high Health Pool, excellent Self Healing, and/or high Health Regen...
Spectre's Eye enhances your Health Pool significantly...
So looking at the bonus's, I see nothing but goodness; some might not agree with that, but those bonus's add to survivability, and that's always a good thing in PvP...
As pertains to Spectre Eye's ability to mitigate damage, on average, yes there are other sets that will outperform it, but Spectre's Eye brings something to the table that other sets like Riposte's and Transmutation cant match and that's the ability to completely avoid an attack (and that attacks secondary effects like Poison and CC)...
I've passively dodged Incap on multiple occasions, and so I avoided 6-10k damage, being Major Defiled, and Hard Stunned...all at once.
Not many other sets can match something like that, and IMHO, it more than makes up for the damage mitigation over time differential that some of the other sets have over it...
In conclusion, I feel the set is much better than its rep suggests...
So from the sets u use u are a tank in a 20 man zerg with little to 0 knowledge about competetive pvp in this game.
U are using only tank sets and with this u will even have a hard time killing guards without your zerg. But u can prove me wrong ofc. I have no problem to duel u. I am on PC Eu but we can also meet on pts if u are from NA. Just throw me an @ in forum or ingame with @gnozo. This goes for every forum warrior here. I will take my time so u can show me how professional u are in this game.
People are suggesting to run purge in battlegrounds. It costs 7k magicka. And thats all the magicka i have in nocp on a stamina build. So after using purge wich also dont grant to remove sloads cause only 2 negative effects my magicka is completly empty. So i cant use any utility skills anymore. No streak, surge, dark deal or vol armor, igneos shield or cloak, fear, shadow image
Thanks for the awesome tips my professional forum warriors.
Prove me wrong. Lets meet on pts. We gonna duel and u Show me ur awesome build wich can survive sloads, bleeding and major defile while still being able to sustain in long fights and still have decent damage to kill the average player.
I am really looking forward to these duels. Pls
" I will use my duelling cheese build with master axe bleed, defiles 2x dot poisons and sload´s to prove that you´re a bad player and that your build is bad"
lmao xD
I have 0 problem to duel without all the things u mentioned3 -
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What are you saying?
your @. And which platform?Edited by Betsararie on June 15, 2018 8:56AM0 -
TheDoomsdayMonster✭✭✭✭✭TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »DRAGON_KILLER_HUNTER wrote: »i bet most people that say "LOL SLOADS IS EASY TO COUNTER JUST PURGE LOL" are running sloads.
Nope...
No Sloads here...
Spectre's Eye/Combat Physician/Mighty Chudan combines to make me pretty hard to kill which I love...
I have no interest in wearing Sloads at current as a result...
Considering the terrible sets you use, I doubt you have much experience on solo/small scale pvp which is where sload's is OP.
You ignorance is apparent as small scale and solo is what I mostly do and have great success with the above...
Running Shields, Major Evasion, while sporting high base resists simutaneously is amazingly effective...
But I don't expect small minds to realize it...
Lets look at spectre's eye for starters: Mediocre 2-4 piece bonuses. Uptime probably lower than 40%, but lets be generous and say 45%. That gives you on average 6,75% mitigation from the set, but it doesn't work against aoe or channeled stuff (like most ultimates for example).
Check out the thread below to see a ton of better options: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/383840/math-pvp-defensive-set-comparison-impreg-brass-pariah-riposte-more/p1
I am fully aware of Taylors thread (I posted a lengthly post about the merits of Spectre's Eye there as a matter of fact) and your opinion on the 2-4 set piece bonus's I disagree with:
Physical Resist...
Last I looked, there is a lot of physical damage in this game, so you can never have too much of this as a result...
2975 Physical Resist equates to around 4.5% damage negation against Physical attacks with 100% uptime, and you think that's mediocre!?
LoL...
Max Magicka...
I am a Magicka Templar, so this is always good for me...
Max Health...
Sloads cannot be mitigated, so the only "defense" to it is to have a high Health Pool, excellent Self Healing, and/or high Health Regen...
Spectre's Eye enhances your Health Pool significantly...
So looking at the bonus's, I see nothing but goodness; some might not agree with that, but those bonus's add to survivability, and that's always a good thing in PvP...
As pertains to Spectre Eye's ability to mitigate damage, on average, yes there are other sets that will outperform it, but Spectre's Eye brings something to the table that other sets like Riposte's and Transmutation cant match and that's the ability to completely avoid an attack (and that attacks secondary effects like Poison and CC)...
I've passively dodged Incap on multiple occasions, and so I avoided 6-10k damage, being Major Defiled, and Hard Stunned...all at once.
Not many other sets can match something like that, and IMHO, it more than makes up for the damage mitigation over time differential that some of the other sets have over it...
In conclusion, I feel the set is much better than its rep suggests...
So from the sets u use u are a tank in a 20 man zerg with little to 0 knowledge about competetive pvp in this game.
U are using only tank sets and with this u will even have a hard time killing guards without your zerg. But u can prove me wrong ofc. I have no problem to duel u. I am on PC Eu but we can also meet on pts if u are from NA. Just throw me an @ in forum or ingame with @gnozo. This goes for every forum warrior here. I will take my time so u can show me how professional u are in this game.
People are suggesting to run purge in battlegrounds. It costs 7k magicka. And thats all the magicka i have in nocp on a stamina build. So after using purge wich also dont grant to remove sloads cause only 2 negative effects my magicka is completly empty. So i cant use any utility skills anymore. No streak, surge, dark deal or vol armor, igneos shield or cloak, fear, shadow image
Thanks for the awesome tips my professional forum warriors.
Prove me wrong. Lets meet on pts. We gonna duel and u Show me ur awesome build wich can survive sloads, bleeding and major defile while still being able to sustain in long fights and still have decent damage to kill the average player.
I am really looking forward to these duels. Pls
" I will use my duelling cheese build with master axe bleed, defiles 2x dot poisons and sload´s to prove that you´re a bad player and that your build is bad"
lmao xD
I have 0 problem to duel without all the things u mentioned
And what does dueling me have to do with the thread topic?
Not a thing...
Nice attempt to derail btw...
Unyeilding Bias
PSN TheLordofMurder
PS4 NA
Magicka Templar
DC
The Combat Physician: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKaqUVm_8JE&t=142s3 -
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Hahahaha. Okay, I knew you often post unpopular opinions, but this is entirely another dimension. Game is getting more and more balanced... give me a break
100% agreed man. Even ZOS can't be this oblivious to balance.
You don't have to explain anything to me about the 'why'. I was just pointing out the facts and why the guy was wrong.
It doesn't do 400 damage. It does exactly the amount of damage on the tooltip. It is oblivion damage, which means it isn't mitigated by anything: resistances, damage reduction, mistform, shields, block, dodge, cloak and NOT EVEN battlespirit. So the damage isn't even halved. So what you basically have is a viper dot on steriods doing twice the amount of damage and it is not mitigatable. It can be stacked on you ad infinium and eats up all your healing. It is a disgusting set, especially in this defile meta.gamerguy757 wrote: »Maybe I'm being dumb...but I looked up Sloads online...how is a set that does 400 damage in cyrodil cause so much problems? Can someone explain what this set is doing that is such an issue?
Battle spirit doesn't reduce Oblivion Damage because Oblivion damage isn't modified by anything...It would be absolutely pointless to do that as the devs can set it exactly how much they want it to do.
Also Sloads is basically doing the same damage that Overwhelming Surge does, the only difference is one applies as status effect and one goes through Shields.
And no, on a build with decent damage reduction and resistances overwhelming surge deals a lot less damage to your opponent than sloads. It also doesn't stick so if the target gets out of range the damage dissapears. Overwhelming is a strong set, but not overperforming because it can actually he countered/mitigated.
It also has a condition to proc in that it has to be a class skill, which mean it’s limited to moslty magicka builds and won’t proc of things like siege. Sloads procs on any type of damage at all and works on any and all builds. It procs of bow light attacks or siege damage. It’s far too accessible and is unprecedented in this game. It is a set meant to trump other sets and sell content. ZOS is aware of its overuse and in the past this has led to nerfs, but they’ve statedthey won’t ans it’s because Summerset is new. Mark my words, once summerset has faded a little Sloads will be adjusted and the next set will come out.
ZOS can balance. This game is getting more and more balanced. 1 -
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Hahahaha. Okay, I knew you often post unpopular opinions, but this is entirely another dimension. Game is getting more and more balanced... give me a break
100% agreed man. Even ZOS can't be this oblivious to balance.
You don't have to explain anything to me about the 'why'. I was just pointing out the facts and why the guy was wrong.
It doesn't do 400 damage. It does exactly the amount of damage on the tooltip. It is oblivion damage, which means it isn't mitigated by anything: resistances, damage reduction, mistform, shields, block, dodge, cloak and NOT EVEN battlespirit. So the damage isn't even halved. So what you basically have is a viper dot on steriods doing twice the amount of damage and it is not mitigatable. It can be stacked on you ad infinium and eats up all your healing. It is a disgusting set, especially in this defile meta.gamerguy757 wrote: »Maybe I'm being dumb...but I looked up Sloads online...how is a set that does 400 damage in cyrodil cause so much problems? Can someone explain what this set is doing that is such an issue?
Battle spirit doesn't reduce Oblivion Damage because Oblivion damage isn't modified by anything...It would be absolutely pointless to do that as the devs can set it exactly how much they want it to do.
Also Sloads is basically doing the same damage that Overwhelming Surge does, the only difference is one applies as status effect and one goes through Shields.
And no, on a build with decent damage reduction and resistances overwhelming surge deals a lot less damage to your opponent than sloads. It also doesn't stick so if the target gets out of range the damage dissapears. Overwhelming is a strong set, but not overperforming because it can actually he countered/mitigated.
It also has a condition to proc in that it has to be a class skill, which mean it’s limited to moslty magicka builds and won’t proc of things like siege. Sloads procs on any type of damage at all and works on any and all builds. It procs of bow light attacks or siege damage. It’s far too accessible and is unprecedented in this game. It is a set meant to trump other sets and sell content. ZOS is aware of its overuse and in the past this has led to nerfs, but they’ve statedthey won’t ans it’s because Summerset is new. Mark my words, once summerset has faded a little Sloads will be adjusted and the next set will come out.
ZOS can balance. This game is getting more and more balanced.
When was it more balanced than now I've been here for years buddy.0 -
Gnozo✭✭✭✭✭
✭TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »DRAGON_KILLER_HUNTER wrote: »i bet most people that say "LOL SLOADS IS EASY TO COUNTER JUST PURGE LOL" are running sloads.
Nope...
No Sloads here...
Spectre's Eye/Combat Physician/Mighty Chudan combines to make me pretty hard to kill which I love...
I have no interest in wearing Sloads at current as a result...
Considering the terrible sets you use, I doubt you have much experience on solo/small scale pvp which is where sload's is OP.
You ignorance is apparent as small scale and solo is what I mostly do and have great success with the above...
Running Shields, Major Evasion, while sporting high base resists simutaneously is amazingly effective...
But I don't expect small minds to realize it...
Lets look at spectre's eye for starters: Mediocre 2-4 piece bonuses. Uptime probably lower than 40%, but lets be generous and say 45%. That gives you on average 6,75% mitigation from the set, but it doesn't work against aoe or channeled stuff (like most ultimates for example).
Check out the thread below to see a ton of better options: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/383840/math-pvp-defensive-set-comparison-impreg-brass-pariah-riposte-more/p1
I am fully aware of Taylors thread (I posted a lengthly post about the merits of Spectre's Eye there as a matter of fact) and your opinion on the 2-4 set piece bonus's I disagree with:
Physical Resist...
Last I looked, there is a lot of physical damage in this game, so you can never have too much of this as a result...
2975 Physical Resist equates to around 4.5% damage negation against Physical attacks with 100% uptime, and you think that's mediocre!?
LoL...
Max Magicka...
I am a Magicka Templar, so this is always good for me...
Max Health...
Sloads cannot be mitigated, so the only "defense" to it is to have a high Health Pool, excellent Self Healing, and/or high Health Regen...
Spectre's Eye enhances your Health Pool significantly...
So looking at the bonus's, I see nothing but goodness; some might not agree with that, but those bonus's add to survivability, and that's always a good thing in PvP...
As pertains to Spectre Eye's ability to mitigate damage, on average, yes there are other sets that will outperform it, but Spectre's Eye brings something to the table that other sets like Riposte's and Transmutation cant match and that's the ability to completely avoid an attack (and that attacks secondary effects like Poison and CC)...
I've passively dodged Incap on multiple occasions, and so I avoided 6-10k damage, being Major Defiled, and Hard Stunned...all at once.
Not many other sets can match something like that, and IMHO, it more than makes up for the damage mitigation over time differential that some of the other sets have over it...
In conclusion, I feel the set is much better than its rep suggests...
So from the sets u use u are a tank in a 20 man zerg with little to 0 knowledge about competetive pvp in this game.
U are using only tank sets and with this u will even have a hard time killing guards without your zerg. But u can prove me wrong ofc. I have no problem to duel u. I am on PC Eu but we can also meet on pts if u are from NA. Just throw me an @ in forum or ingame with @gnozo. This goes for every forum warrior here. I will take my time so u can show me how professional u are in this game.
People are suggesting to run purge in battlegrounds. It costs 7k magicka. And thats all the magicka i have in nocp on a stamina build. So after using purge wich also dont grant to remove sloads cause only 2 negative effects my magicka is completly empty. So i cant use any utility skills anymore. No streak, surge, dark deal or vol armor, igneos shield or cloak, fear, shadow image
Thanks for the awesome tips my professional forum warriors.
Prove me wrong. Lets meet on pts. We gonna duel and u Show me ur awesome build wich can survive sloads, bleeding and major defile while still being able to sustain in long fights and still have decent damage to kill the average player.
I am really looking forward to these duels. Pls
" I will use my duelling cheese build with master axe bleed, defiles 2x dot poisons and sload´s to prove that you´re a bad player and that your build is bad"
lmao xD
I have 0 problem to duel without all the things u mentioned
And what does dueling me have to do with the thread topic?
Not a thing...
Nice attempt to derail btw...
To show that u have 0 clue about pvp mechanics and ur Arguments mentioned here are completely Trash. No Need to show it in forum cause everyone with basic knowledge about pvp will see this. I want to show it to u.
Ur build is just puuure tank build with 20 ppl behind ur back. Ofc u can ignore sloads.4 -
Betsararie✭✭✭✭✭
✭TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »DRAGON_KILLER_HUNTER wrote: »i bet most people that say "LOL SLOADS IS EASY TO COUNTER JUST PURGE LOL" are running sloads.
Nope...
No Sloads here...
Spectre's Eye/Combat Physician/Mighty Chudan combines to make me pretty hard to kill which I love...
I have no interest in wearing Sloads at current as a result...
Considering the terrible sets you use, I doubt you have much experience on solo/small scale pvp which is where sload's is OP.
You ignorance is apparent as small scale and solo is what I mostly do and have great success with the above...
Running Shields, Major Evasion, while sporting high base resists simutaneously is amazingly effective...
But I don't expect small minds to realize it...
Lets look at spectre's eye for starters: Mediocre 2-4 piece bonuses. Uptime probably lower than 40%, but lets be generous and say 45%. That gives you on average 6,75% mitigation from the set, but it doesn't work against aoe or channeled stuff (like most ultimates for example).
Check out the thread below to see a ton of better options: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/383840/math-pvp-defensive-set-comparison-impreg-brass-pariah-riposte-more/p1
I am fully aware of Taylors thread (I posted a lengthly post about the merits of Spectre's Eye there as a matter of fact) and your opinion on the 2-4 set piece bonus's I disagree with:
Physical Resist...
Last I looked, there is a lot of physical damage in this game, so you can never have too much of this as a result...
2975 Physical Resist equates to around 4.5% damage negation against Physical attacks with 100% uptime, and you think that's mediocre!?
LoL...
Max Magicka...
I am a Magicka Templar, so this is always good for me...
Max Health...
Sloads cannot be mitigated, so the only "defense" to it is to have a high Health Pool, excellent Self Healing, and/or high Health Regen...
Spectre's Eye enhances your Health Pool significantly...
So looking at the bonus's, I see nothing but goodness; some might not agree with that, but those bonus's add to survivability, and that's always a good thing in PvP...
As pertains to Spectre Eye's ability to mitigate damage, on average, yes there are other sets that will outperform it, but Spectre's Eye brings something to the table that other sets like Riposte's and Transmutation cant match and that's the ability to completely avoid an attack (and that attacks secondary effects like Poison and CC)...
I've passively dodged Incap on multiple occasions, and so I avoided 6-10k damage, being Major Defiled, and Hard Stunned...all at once.
Not many other sets can match something like that, and IMHO, it more than makes up for the damage mitigation over time differential that some of the other sets have over it...
In conclusion, I feel the set is much better than its rep suggests...
So from the sets u use u are a tank in a 20 man zerg with little to 0 knowledge about competetive pvp in this game.
U are using only tank sets and with this u will even have a hard time killing guards without your zerg. But u can prove me wrong ofc. I have no problem to duel u. I am on PC Eu but we can also meet on pts if u are from NA. Just throw me an @ in forum or ingame with @gnozo. This goes for every forum warrior here. I will take my time so u can show me how professional u are in this game.
People are suggesting to run purge in battlegrounds. It costs 7k magicka. And thats all the magicka i have in nocp on a stamina build. So after using purge wich also dont grant to remove sloads cause only 2 negative effects my magicka is completly empty. So i cant use any utility skills anymore. No streak, surge, dark deal or vol armor, igneos shield or cloak, fear, shadow image
Thanks for the awesome tips my professional forum warriors.
Prove me wrong. Lets meet on pts. We gonna duel and u Show me ur awesome build wich can survive sloads, bleeding and major defile while still being able to sustain in long fights and still have decent damage to kill the average player.
I am really looking forward to these duels. Pls
" I will use my duelling cheese build with master axe bleed, defiles 2x dot poisons and sload´s to prove that you´re a bad player and that your build is bad"
lmao xD
I have 0 problem to duel without all the things u mentioned
And what does dueling me have to do with the thread topic?
Not a thing...
Nice attempt to derail btw...
To show that u have 0 clue about pvp mechanics and ur Arguments mentioned here are completely Trash. No Need to show it in forum cause everyone with basic knowledge about pvp will see this. I want to show it to u.
Ur build is just puuure tank build with 20 ppl behind ur back. Ofc u can ignore sloads.
one of the no-point tanks. There is no point0
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